Painting the Valk, ?'s

[YoungPUP]

So I'm now working on repainting the Valk due to some unplanned misfortune ( see my other post http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,65832.0.html)  I've got all the small dings, dents and a crack due to some shoddy (at best) body work where the tail light was shaved.  Where my main question comes in is how much paint do I need.  I'm painting it myself and have Very good results from Majic Brand  Implement paints. They set up nice with a Durable finish, I just don't know if I need 1 or 2 quarts or more?.  I can source the paint locally with out ordering it, but I don't like not buying all the paint together (same lot number) to avoid variations.

[pancho]

How many pieces are you painting???  Is it a single stage paint? and are you going to clear coat? Are you going to prime with a dark color and paint with a light?  How many coats are you going to put on, and are you going to color sand and re shoot?..... 

Unless you are going with a saturated dark color, over dark primer and just doing the sheet metal to hide, I would get two quarts.

[pancho]

Hey YoungPUP,, I just looked up the Majic Brand  Implement paints, and see that they are an alkyd enamel.  I would use the catalyst  they offer with the paint for improved hardness and shine.

These paints are made to cover with two coats, so if you are just doing the fenders, and tank, and have a good prepped surface to shoot on, you can probably get away with one quart..  If you are going to do the side covers, middle piece and some extras, I would want a second quart handy,, who knows, you may mess a piece up and need to resand and shoot it.

[salty1]

Have you decided on a color yet? 

[fudgie]

My guy used a quart and had over half left over on my tourer. Depending on the price, Id get extra.

[Bighead]

Musta sprayed it thinnnnnnnn.
Fairing and saddlebags took all of a quart on mine.

[YoungPUP]

 The Majic paints offer a Hardener, which I like to use.  Here's a shocker though. I brush paint with them.  I've had issues with the shine not coming out when sprayed.  All I'm painting is the tank, fenders and side covers.  Plus I'm doing Red over Dark red so I should be ok in that aspect.   AS to my color choice, I'm switching from Ford metallic red with corvette orange flames to New Holland Red.

[pancho]

Whoa.....  I'd certainly post a picture for you if you wanted to show off your handy work when finished.  Do you have pretty good luck getting a good smooth finish applying the paint like that?

[YoungPUP]

As for the smooth finish.  If I didn't tell you I hadn't sprayed it you'd never know. The paint is fairly heavy/thick and once you've put it on the brush marks disappear as the paint flows out.  I'll definitely work on getting some pics once its done.  Hopefully after this coming week.

[YoungPUP]

Bit of an update.  After priming all the body work and scuffing the paint that was there and priming it as well I went to painting like I always have with the Implement paint. I've never used this product over body filler and glazing putty but I can now say it didn't work.  As the paint started drying it darkened over the filled areas to the point that when dry it was almost a dark wine red over the filler and the intended red over everything else...    So I took the tins to a friend and had them sandblasted to bare steel and am starting from scratch.  I'm going to run it under primer for the season as my job gets busier this time of year and It'll end up  taking me all riding season to paint the damn thing.  Any one ever have a bike sprayed in Line-X Bedliner?

[pancho]

Never sprayed one with bed liner,, but if it's only for the season, it would look pretty cool in flat black primer.

I wonder if one more coat of the Implement paint would not have given an even color?

[YoungPUP]

I went with gray primer.  as for the discoloration I sanded the all the pieces with body work and did another 2 coats.  looks great for about 3 hours then starts darkening up again.  May have been bad filler? But its blasted and gone so the world will never know...

[pancho]

Grey primer,,, like to see a picture of a running Valkyrie in grey primer,, probably looks pretty cool. Now you can ride.

Just for future reference, before doing a top coat of paint, all the pieces should be primered and sanded until they are an even color and smooth surface,, if the body work leaks through the primer,, the chemicals are old or not mixed correctly.

[signart]

Use a sealer on top of the primer before painting.

[Momz]

I've seen quite a few HDs covered in Bed Liner.
It's different and impervious to scratches and slight boogers.
There are a few "DIY" kits that you can get at most larger auto parts stores.

I personally like it.
Be different,...make it yours.