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Started by pancho, Fri 18, Apr 2014, 13:16:16

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pancho

I'm planning on putting some out of state miles on the bike and want to add a tire repair/plug kit and air compressor to the saddlebags. Wonderin what anyone else has had luck with.....  I've learned form hubcapSC that an eight inch C clamp will break the bead if necessary, but what do you use to fix the hole and put air back in if necessary.  Looking for recommendations.

No, I do not plan on sitting around waiting on AAA or calling a service.
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

gordonv

I bought the $38 one.

http://www.stopngo.com/

Here is how to use it.

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/bongoplug.htm

Bought a 12v air compressor for $10 on sale, then needed to buy the cig adaptor. Could do the same by just buy a pair of clips and cut the end off and wire them on.

http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-250-psi-compact-air-compressor-4077.html

I too did not like the idea of waiting for 1-2 hrs for road side assistance either.

1999 Black with custom paint IS


pancho

I have a 12 volt air compressor, just wondering about the battery capacity that is in our bikes,, it is not the largest of batteries. I used to have an old FLH that had a very large battery on it,, no problem,, and once rode a Moto Guzzi Ambassador, that I removed the side covers and had a car battery in it,, I could jump cars and trucks... but the Valk..??   I had seen that article from shoptalk with the Sarge,,  ever used those plugs??

The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

hubcapsc


Besides a normal little pump (used numerous times, no battery problem) that I
plug in the same place as heated clothes, I have this in my saddlebags:

http://www.aerostich.com/tools/tire-repair/pumps-air-compressors/engineair-power-pump.html

It seems creepy, but reputedly spews out enough air to re-bead a tire. Haven't had to use it yet.

Also have the mushroom plugs... haven't had to use them yet.

I've used the 8-inch clamp at home both on the front and the back, it works  :cooldude:

And there's RideOn in my tires...

And my car has run flats...

-Mike "I must hate flat tires..."

vanagon40

Quote from: pancho on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 14:39:38
I have a 12 volt air compressor, just wondering about the battery capacity that is in our bikes . . . .

I have no experience, but I have heard that after fully inflating the tire, the bike would not start.  Solution: leave the bike running when using the compressor.

pancho

Good point!!

I wonder about that engineair pump Mike,... does it fit down our plug valleys?? anyone used one yet??
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

Bone

#6
What concerned me was all of the pumps packaging and advertisements listed the maximum pressure. Not one talked about the volume of air. The 205/60 is like a empty bath tub when completely flat. So I bought the pump brought it home and let all of the air out of one of my Jeep tires all of the air. Then parked the bike next to it and tried to pump the tire with the weight of the Jeep on the flat. The reason I did that is what if I didn't choose where to park, camping, run into a ditch by a cage etc. Well the pump worked very well and passed those test. Have no idea what brand it is bought it at Autozone. I'll look next time I go to the garage.

This is the pump I wrote about 300psi. Just tried it worked ok.
2 minutes it put 4.2 lbs. in a 30x9.50 R15. I try and test the pump each spring.







pancho

#7
That's the kind of testimonial I was looking for!!
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

vanagon40

Quote from: pancho on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 16:45:54
Good point!!

I wonder about that engineair pump Mike,... does it fit down our plug valleys?? anyone used one yet??

I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that Daniel Meyer claimed they worked well and in fact would produce a sufficient volume of air to reseat the bead on a tire.

hubcapsc

Quote from: vanagon40 on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 19:30:28
Quote from: pancho on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 16:45:54
Good point!!

I wonder about that engineair pump Mike,... does it fit down our plug valleys?? anyone used one yet??

I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that Daniel Meyer claimed they worked well and in fact would produce a sufficient volume of air to reseat the bead on a tire.

But I don't remember if he ran it from a Valkyrie... those are deep holes our plugs
are in...

-Mike

sandy

Stop n Go has a kit with an air pump. A friend had to use it recently and he was surprised at how fast the tire came up to pressure.

pancho

Which stop and Go pump are you talking about Sandy,, 12v or spark plug hole pump?
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

PhredValk

I have a small $12 pump for the bike. Currently I have a slow leak in my van's front right tire. Once a week I hook it up and it takes less than 4 minutes to go from 20-40 lbs; so I think it would be less than 10 minutes to fill from flat.
Fred.
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vanagon40

Quote from: hubcapsc on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 19:32:43
Quote from: vanagon40 on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 19:30:28
Quote from: pancho on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 16:45:54
Good point!!

I wonder about that engineair pump Mike,... does it fit down our plug valleys?? anyone used one yet??

I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that Daniel Meyer claimed they worked well and in fact would produce a sufficient volume of air to reseat the bead on a tire.


But I don't remember if he ran it from a Valkyrie... those are deep holes our plugs
are in...

-Mike

Found it here.  Not specifically stated, but seems to imply that he used the Valkyrie.

nogrey

On my 3500 mile trip from Florida I had tire problems galore! ( see video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odNluvZSzEY&list=UU_Z_sG8UTdpGbyDkqZDoAMA).
I bought a really cheap "green slime" pump from Wallyworld. I used it no less than 20 times in one day. It functioned perfectly and the battery held up just fine! Very compact and functional.

pancho

#15
Truly a great adventure/trip you guys had.... glad you both made it home without any show stoppers,,  good work on the video also.  What impressed me the most was that after picking up the bikes, you didn't just rush straight back home with your new toys,, you went on an adventure with them.

I think I am settled on the stop&go plug kit, an electric air pump and an engineair type pump for backup. Thanks for digging that up vanagan40, I think Danial does suggest that he used that pump on a Valk.

After watching your video nogrey, I need to rest up back home for a bit... thanks to all for the good info and wisdom.
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

salty1

My rides:
1998 GL1500C, 2000 GL 1500CF,2006 GL 1800 3A


sandy

Quote from: pancho on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 20:37:06
Which stop and Go pump are you talking about Sandy,, 12v or spark plug hole pump?
Sorry, didn't know they had both. It was the 12V pump.

old2soon

Right after I bought my Slime compressor from wally wurld I modified the lighter end to clips. I added like 5 or 6 P S I to my front tire and while not as fast as a shop compressor in an emergency tire repair situation somewhere between lost and found and B F E and no cell service it will do. Have the string plugs and I purchased extra cement for the plugs. Need to get some of those mushroom plugs also. RIDE SAFE.
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Bone

I did modify my post from yesterday. My pump is a Slime with 300 psi output.

Jess from VA

Quote from: Bone on Fri 18, Apr 2014, 16:58:20
What concerned me was all of the pumps packaging and advertisements listed the maximum pressure. Not one talked about the volume of air. The 205/60 is like a empty bath tub when completely flat. So I bought the pump brought it home and let all of the air out of one of my Jeep tires all of the air. Then parked the bike next to it and tried to pump the tire with the weight of the Jeep on the flat. The reason I did that is what if I didn't choose where to park, camping, run into a ditch by a cage etc. Well the pump worked very well and passed those test. Have no idea what brand it is bought it at Autozone. I'll look next time I go to the garage.

This is the pump I wrote about 300psi. Just tried it worked ok.
2 minutes it put 4.2 lbs. in a 30x9.50 R15. I try and test the pump each spring.




Thanks for that report.  :cooldude: (hope you meant 42 and not 4.2lbs)

I have plugged mine in to ensure it still runs, but have never pumped anything up with it. 

Bone

Nope I meant 4.2 lbs. The tire was at 36# and it added 4.2 with the Jeeps weight on the wheels.

Jess from VA

Well, you had just written you had taken all the air out of the Jeep tire, so I thought you were telling us it pumped that tire to full, from empty.

Bone

I know my writing can confuse me. I let the air out of the tire
completely when I brought the pump home a few years ago.
Not knowing what the pump could do I gave it a real test above
what the bike would require on the road.

Today was just seeing if it still worked this year.

pancho

Plus, that tire takes a lot of air.
The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.

donaldcc


  have this combo kit I got from Pashnit.  Compressor, pressure gauge, and patch kit.

  use compressor plugged in to car to keep tires up to correct pressure and pressure gauge attaches to it so you can see pressure as you fill.  have not used patch kit, but rescued friend with flat..

  quality product.  a little pricey.

http://www.pashnit.com/product/cyclepump.html

Don

Oss

I keep 3 or 4 co2 cartridges and the dispenser (looks like a pez dispenser )
in my tool bag.

Also have a good quality pump runs off the battery tender tail

Going from 0 to 10-15lbs takes longer than I want to wait. The co2 will get tire holding air
10-15 lbs in seconds. Then I can use the pump to go the rest of the way to 44 if rear tire.

When my beemer lost air in back tire I used that combo before I figured the hole in the tire was too small for the ride on to self seal, then used the co2 and pump and she held just fine
Ordered a box of the co2 for like 10 dollars or so
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santa

Harbor Freight 12 V. pump. I have pumped up my truck tires a number of times. I have one of there pumps in all of my cars and bike. Since I put in my bag on the bike I have not had to use it on my bike but many times on other bike. Also use Stop and go mushroom plugs.

Santa

Punisher

Here is the one I use from Harbor Freight, puts out a decent volume.   I've never had much luck with their electrical devices wrapped in yellow or orange plastic.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/air-compressors/12-volt-100-psi-high-volume-air-compressor-69284-8788.html

I've used this many times and it works well.

I use string plugs.  Sometimes I've had a problem getting a mushroom plug to hold, string plug has never left me stranded.