man am I CONFUSED

[blackvalkyrie]

I'm so confused...any help would be deeply appreciated .. .. I'm planning on replacing my oem turns with led...after much research.. I thought I had it figured out... I have a single turn indicator..so  I know I need a cross diode kit... Now I went to my local Honda dealer and asked them if they had flasher relays for my bike..told them I didn't want to mess with any load equalizers... they told me that they had flasher resistor kit that would simply plug into my turns no need to change out my relay which involves removing my  side cover and the radiator overflow bottle... so I happily bought two sets..front and rear... I took apart one of my front turns and there is NO plug in for the resistor..it seems to be a set of wires leading to my headlight bucket... the warning on the packaging says they heat up so make sure they are attached to the bike..now my dealer KNOWS I have a 97 Valk Standard.  I went on the manufacture's website  www.drcproducts.com ..seems these are for dirt bikes.
Sooooo... here's my question.. anyone who has switched out their oem for led turns.. did you use resistors, electronic flasher relays, or something else all together different? I hate to splice /soldier unless I have to...but will simply replacing the flasher relay work, or do I need load equalizers(are they the same as load resistors)? any help would be appreciated ...GRRRR 

[saddlesore]

  Yeah, confusing isn't it?  I went through the same thing but I found that LED turn signals are over rated.
I have an LED tail light and the run, turn, brake system.  I added four ways and I need a resistor to make the whole thing to work.  The resistor does get warm and  should be mounted accordingly.
  The site you went to does have more than dirt bike stuff.  I didn't find the parts you were talking about.
  I'm not an electrical whiz my any means, this is just my experience.   Good Luck! 

[tank_post142]

replace the flasher unit with an electronic one from your local auto parts store. and add diodes before the the indicator on your headlight so it does not cross feed power from one side to the other. the only reason to convert to leds is to save power but adding resistors will make the draw the same as conventional bulbs. with the new flasher you dont need the resistors.

[John Schmidt]

Why not a load equalizer? I installed one maybe ten years ago and never looked back. Everything on the bike is LED except the headlight and driving lights. They would be too if it were financially expdedient. All LED's takes a huge load off the alternator, and my turns flash at a normal rate without changing the flasher.

[blackvalkyrie]

thanks..problem is seems that I may have to install the resistors in the headlight bucket which means it's gonna get too hot.

  Yeah, confusing isn't it?  I went through the same thing but I found that LED turn signals are over rated.
I have an LED tail light and the run, turn, brake system.  I added four ways and I need a resistor to make the whole thing to work.  The resistor does get warm and  should be mounted accordingly.
  The site you went to does have more than dirt bike stuff.  I didn't find the parts you were talking about.
  I'm not an electrical whiz my any means, this is just my experience.   Good Luck! 

[blackvalkyrie]

I know the problem with the load equalizer is that it increase the amps back to the incandescent levels, are resistors the same as a load equalizer?

replace the flasher unit with an electronic one from your local auto parts store. and add diodes before the the indicator on your headlight so it does not cross feed power from one side to the other. the only reason to convert to leds is to save power but adding resistors will make the draw the same as conventional bulbs. with the new flasher you dont need the resistors.

[blackvalkyrie]

I think that all led's take a load off the alternator IF you do it WITHOUT the load equalizes.  I thought that was the problem, the load equalizers take away the advantage of the leds. am I wrong?

Why not a load equalizer? I installed one maybe ten years ago and never looked back. Everything on the bike is LED except the headlight and driving lights. They would be too if it were financially expdedient. All LED's takes a huge load off the alternator, and my turns flash at a normal rate without changing the flasher.

[blackvalkyrie]

sounds like the easiest way...

replace the flasher unit with an electronic one from your local auto parts store. and add diodes before the the indicator on your headlight so it does not cross feed power from one side to the other. the only reason to convert to leds is to save power but adding resistors will make the draw the same as conventional bulbs. with the new flasher you dont need the resistors.

[saddlesore]

I think that all led's take a load off the alternator IF you do it WITHOUT the load equalizes.  I thought that was the problem, the load equalizers take away the advantage of the leds. am I wrong?

Why not a load equalizer? I installed one maybe ten years ago and never looked back. Everything on the bike is LED except the headlight and driving lights. They would be too if it were financially expdedient. All LED's takes a huge load off the alternator, and my turns flash at a normal rate without changing the flasher.

That's a good question.  I know without the equalizer the flasher will not operate properly.  ie they will flash faster or one side might not work.

[tank_post142]

correct the resistor or load equalizer are the same thing. they are needed if you keep the same flasher but will produce the same load on the alternator as conventional bulbs. these were used before the advent of electronic flashers.

[blackvalkyrie]

thanks! so..add a diode kit, replace the flasher with an electronic one (only one needed right?) and I should be good to go? 

correct the resistor or load equalizer are the same thing. they are needed if you keep the same flasher but will produce the same load on the alternator as conventional bulbs. these were used before the advent of electronic flashers.

[blackvalkyrie]

thanks so much to all who replied I'll keep you abreast as I progress.. wow my little valk better be worth this!

[tank_post142]

well I don't now if any of this applies to a " little Valk " most of us have big ones ! 

[blackvalkyrie]

 
LOL  well..it's a 1500 not 1800

well I don't now if any of this applies to a " little Valk " most of us have big ones !