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Started by Chrisj CMA, Thu 05, Jun 2014, 14:22:23

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Chrisj CMA

well, probably not really, no where near 10,000 miles.  Being able to go 10K on an oil change instead of 3K is why I switched to Mobile 1.  However I just cant do it.  Im a tad over 6K miles on this oil and I just had to dump it.....I know , I know..........but that is neither here or there.  The reason Im posting is because I buy Mobil 1 in the 5QT jug and this is the second time I got what I call a "free oil change"  You know use four and save one do that 3 more times and you have a "free gallon" which you did pay for but long enough ago that you cant remember......so its "free"!

This is also the second time I had oil left over after measuring in the 4 qts.  So if you are like me, dont care about that 3.9 thing and just go with a gallon........dont take out a qt and dump the rest, you may be over since you planned on being a little over anyways......

I use a meterd funnel and do exactly 1qt each time.

Ok public service announcement is over....if this were a real emergency I wouldnt be using this smiley  ;D

BIG--T

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 14:22:23
well, probably not really, no where near 10,000 miles.  Being able to go 10K on an oil change instead of 3K is why I switched to Mobile 1.  However I just cant do it.  Im a tad over 6K miles on this oil and I just had to dump it.....I know , I know..........but that is neither here or there.  The reason Im posting is because I buy Mobil 1 in the 5QT jug and this is the second time I got what I call a "free oil change"  You know use four and save one do that 3 more times and you have a "free gallon" which you did pay for but long enough ago that you cant remember......so its "free"!

This is also the second time I had oil left over after measuring in the 4 qts.  So if you are like me, dont care about that 3.9 thing and just go with a gallon........dont take out a qt and dump the rest, you may be over since you planned on being a little over anyways......

I use a meterd funnel and do exactly 1qt each time.

Ok public service announcement is over....if this were a real emergency I wouldnt be using this smiley  ;D

Haha, I am the same way and cringe at the thought of 8 or 10,000 miles and I usually end up doing it at 6k as well. I usually buy mine when on sale and buy 5 qts and with a funnel dump them in fast, not trying to get the last drop and figure I put in 3.9. ;)

Red Diamond

No wonder I don't have an extra quart left over, I've been using the hold thing.

If you are riding  and it is a must that you keep your eyes on the road, you are riding too fast.

BIG--T

Quote from: Red Diamond on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 15:03:38
No wonder I don't have an extra quart left over, I've been using the hold thing.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

old2soon

About $10.00 more at O'reilly than it is at wally wurld. Lets just say my last oil change wuz way way way over what ya'll changing at BUT the Mobil 1 15/50 synthetic did it's job even if I didn't.  :roll: see ya'll in Asheville Sunday.  :cooldude: RIDE SAFE.
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Jess from VA

Funny you bring it up Jeff.  Prepping my bike for NC, I checked my book and find I have almost 4.8K on my T6 Rotella.  Almost feel guilty not changing it before a trip, but doing so would just be a waste of money (esp since fresh last August).   My usual window is 6-8K.

Same deal with my battery.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, other than it is around 7-8 yrs old (on a tender 24 X 7 year round).  New one in the box out with parts.  'Course now that I posted this I am doomed.  (Still fires the bike in one second every time)  Last one went 11 years and was still fine when I changed it out of worry.

98pacecar

I was under the impression that car oil had friction reducers in it ''to increase fuel mileage''....    :coolsmiley:

And, that,,, that would potentially, lead to clutch slippage when used in a (wet clutch) motorcycle...   ???

Is this not,,,, the case?       :o




Chrisj CMA

Quote from: 98pacecar on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 16:56:45
I was under the impression that car oil had friction reducers in it ''to increase fuel mileage''....    :coolsmiley:

And, that,,, that would potentially, lead to clutch slippage when used in a (wet clutch) motorcycle...   ???

Is this not,,,, the case?       :o





You have to look at at the ring....if it says "energy conserving" at the bottom, NO GOOD.  If its blank like the Mobile1 10-40 than its GOOD TO GO

Jess from VA

Besides knowing the correct codes in the ring (I don't), the key words on synthetic you cannot use in a Valk are energy conserving or contains friction modifiers.

T6 Shell Rotella 5-40 is diesel oil, and works great in Valks (thou not as quiet as some more expensive stuff like Mobil 1 and Amzoil).  And should be very good for the hot South summers.

Firefighter

I use Honda 20/50 oil that the company calls for. Change every 3000 or so, since the clutch runs in oil and is a wear item, I prefer to change my oil more often.
2000 Valkyrie Interstate, Black/Red
2006 Honda Sabre 1100
2013 Honda Spirit 750
2002 Honda Rebel 250
1978 Honda 750

sandy

I'm a 10K on Mobil 1 with no problems at 143K.

BF

Well goody......and oil thread.   ;)

The bike gets Mobil 1 v-twin 20w50 with Pure One filters and usually gets changed twice a year regardless of miles (usually not that much).  It's probably overkill, but it's my money and it makes me feel better. 

Car and truck get changed every 3000 or so.  Same reason as the bike. 

Car is still fairly new and has about 15000 on it, but the truck has well over 200,000 on it and doesn't burn or leak a drop. 

My last truck had almost 300,000 on it and it got changed every 3000 also....it didn't leak or burn a drop either. 

I believe in keeping the oil changed. 
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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: firefighter on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 19:33:39
I use Honda 20/50 oil that the company calls for. Change every 3000 or so, since the clutch runs in oil and is a wear item, I prefer to change my oil more often.

Question for you...

So if you use Honda dino oil (specified by "the company") How many miles does "the company" recommend going before changing?


Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008

 Been running Mobil 1 15W50 for over 150,000 miles. I change it at 5 k intervals just because it is easy to remember. I have drained this oil out before and ran it in my lawnmowers for a whole summer of cutting grass with no problems. As for oil filters I ran the super tech 6607 and the fram 7313 but because of so much bad mouthing of the fram I now run the PL 14610 Purolator.

BIG--T

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Fri 06, Jun 2014, 08:14:22
Quote from: firefighter on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 19:33:39
I use Honda 20/50 oil that the company calls for. Change every 3000 or so, since the clutch runs in oil and is a wear item, I prefer to change my oil more often.

Question for you...

So if you use Honda dino oil (specified by "the company") How many miles does "the company" recommend going before changing?





I thought Honda recommended  10/40 and every 5,000 :-\

98valk

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Fri 06, Jun 2014, 08:14:22
Quote from: firefighter on Thu 05, Jun 2014, 19:33:39
I use Honda 20/50 oil that the company calls for. Change every 3000 or so, since the clutch runs in oil and is a wear item, I prefer to change my oil more often.
Question for you...So if you use Honda dino oil (specified by "the company") How many miles does "the company" recommend going before changing?
service manual calls for 8k oil and filter change using the low quality per oil analysis honda oil.
10w40 is called for no high temp limit, they allow 20w50 also to be used.
they allow 10w30 to 95F ambient, honda now calls for 10w30 for the GL1800 but didn't first few yrs. I have posted before oems use 10w30 for their engine testing, I posted oil analysis for amsoil 10w30 diesel oil at 8k miles, came back still good for continued use.
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Firefighter

The book says 8000 miles the way I remember. Good selling feature for a touring bike. Its hot where I am at so I go for the 20/50, I have used lower viscosity in the past, seems more quite with 20/50. As for the quality of the oil, no matter how great any oil is, it gets dirty and you can't do anything about that except change it, and that is why I prefer to change more regular. Even the more expensive oils which don't break down as fast get dirty especially with your clutch running in oil. This dirty oil is an enemy to the engine. I also change my 96 GMC truck every 3000 miles, it has over 281000 miles, and also runs great, does not use any oil, leaks a little. Anyway, just ride safe and have fun!
2000 Valkyrie Interstate, Black/Red
2006 Honda Sabre 1100
2013 Honda Spirit 750
2002 Honda Rebel 250
1978 Honda 750

Chrisj CMA

Bingo....8K by the book on non-synthetic. 

I used to change every 3K also, but I know many GoldWing riders....they go a lot longer on oil than I would, the ones that converted to synthetic were pretty much all the same story annually or 10,000 miles which ever comes first. 

I think synthetic oil and change between 6 and 8K is very reasonable.  Dino oil I would be uncomfortable past 5K even though the book says 8.

I would not criticize anyone for changing more often......your bike your money I did it for years...however, there are way too many Honda riders getting 10K miles on a gallon of oil and NOT having any oil related problems with the engine, transmission or clutch to convince me that going beyond 3K is harmful. 


salty1

I do like that Mobil 1synthetic! I also change my oil and filter earlier than Honda recommends.  Peace of mind is a good thing! :roll:
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Farther

I change my oil in November once a year at 5-7k miles because I literally don't have anything better to do.
Thanks,
~Farther

Chrisj CMA

Just a reminder...I started this post not to create an oil war.  I don't care if you change oil every 50,000 miles or after every ride.

However, when you do, if you buy your oil in a 5qt jug, I recommend not trusting the volume.  Its my experience there is a little extra.

You over fill these ladies and they may puke oil on the family room floor  ;D


Firefighter

That was just my opinion, I am not bent any, or at war. My Valk is my hobby and I try to take the best care of it that I can. I think the engines are the best around and with care will last forever. I'm an oil changer, there, I said it!  Have fun!
2000 Valkyrie Interstate, Black/Red
2006 Honda Sabre 1100
2013 Honda Spirit 750
2002 Honda Rebel 250
1978 Honda 750

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Quote from: Farther on Fri 06, Jun 2014, 15:17:18
I change my oil in November once a year at 5-7k miles because I literally don't have anything better to do.

Yes you do.

Ride the darn thing  :cooldude:

Bighead

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Fri 06, Jun 2014, 16:02:53
Just a reminder...I started this post not to create an oil war.  I don't care if you change oil every 50,000 miles or after every ride.

However, when you do, if you buy your oil in a 5qt jug, I recommend not trusting the volume.  Its my experience there is a little extra.

You over fill these ladies and they may puke oil on the family room floor  ;D


Wow your garage is nice :2funny:
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Otus

I guess you just move your rocking chair out of the way when you need to get in your tool box. :laugh: