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Executive Order 13603

Started by 98valk, Tue 15, Jul 2014, 17:55:32

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98valk

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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

bentwrench


Robert

#2
Now, the Executive order that will implement this, the Executive
Order 11051 or updated (Executive Order 13603), it details responsibilities to the Office of Emergency Planning or FEMA. It gives authorization to put ALL Executive orders into effect in
times of national emergency declared by the President, increased international
tension or economical or financial crisis. (Note that it covers every
conceivable domestic crisis but does not even mention war or nuclear
attack.)
Now, the only thing that has to happen for FEMA to be able to
implement all the executive orders, emergency executive orders, is for the
President to declare a national emergency of any type, as long as it's a
national emergency.

If you doubt the validity of any of this all you have to do is copy the executive order and the Number and Google it. I have provided some history and some time line to these orders that were consolidated in Obama's order.


Executive Order 10997 provides for the takeover of all electric, power,
petroleum, gas, fuels, and minerals.
Executive Order 10988 provides for the takeover of food resources and
farms.
Executive Order 10999 provides for the takeover of all modes of transportation,
control of highways, seaports, etc.
Executive Order 11000 provides for mobilization of all civilians into
work brigades under the Government supervision.
Executive Order 11001 provides for Governmental takeover of all
health, education and welfare functions.
Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a
national registration of all persons.
Executive Order 11003 provides for the Government to take over
airports and aircraft.
Executive Order 11004 provides for the Housing and Finance Authority
to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish
new locations for populations.
Executive Order 11005 provides for the Government to take over
railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
Now, all of these were COMBINED under Nixon into one huge Executive
order, which allows all of this to take place if the President declares a
national emergency and it can be implemented by the head of FEMA, NOT
BY THE PRESIDENT. The President has already given him that power
under these executive orders.
All of these were combined into Executive Order 11490 and that was
signed by President Carter on July 20,1979, and is, in fact, law.
So, if the President does what it says and
declares a national emergency because of the drug situation or any situation, whether it's
for one year, five years, five minutes or forever, it doesn't make any difference.
FEMA then can implement all these Executive orders, take over all
local, state, and national government suspend the Constitution and do
whatever they want to do.
There will be no challenge by the courts for at least 6 months.

Executive Order 11490, an executive order of October 28, 1969, calls for federal agencies to prepare plans for a state of emergency that would require "over-all civilian manpower mobilization programs" and related emergency measures.

In 2012 the order was consolidated into Executive Order 13603.

Make no mistake in these executive orders is the suspension of the US Constitution

While Obama did sign and update this order in Executive Order 13603, it was in the works for awhile. So if you think that any of the recent presidents have been any good then just look at the executive orders that they have been building one on top of the other to suspend the Constitution and take full control of the US. I gave some past presidents and some history of how this got passed. If you really want to know how long this has been planed
A book by William Cooper Behold a Pale Horse was printed in 1991 but penned in the 80's when Cooper was in the military with top secret clearance. A few years later he was killed for his participation in trying to get the word out about what was happening. When Cooper wrote about it and yeares later I saw the bills and orders came to be, I knew it was real and not just a conspiracy theory.
http://ephraiyim.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/william_cooper-behold_a_pale_horse1991_copy.pdf
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

98valk

the first ones were all put into place by kennedy during the cuban missile crisis, in case we were invaded by the USSR (well we actually have been but not physically), every president since then have re-enforced them some way, none where ever canceled.

interesting that this happened after the conclusion of the Iron Mountain summit in the approx 1963 as written about by Larry Abraham in his "the greening" book.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml

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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
John Adams 10/11/1798

Robert

#4
Quote from: CA on Tue 15, Jul 2014, 20:37:04
the first ones were all put into place by kennedy during the cuban missile crisis, in case we were invaded by the USSR (well we actually have been but not physically), every president since then have re-enforced them some way, none where ever canceled.

interesting that this happened after the conclusion of the Iron Mountain summit in the approx 1963 as written about by Larry Abraham in his "the greening" book.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml



Its true and what I find interesting is the consistent pattern of implementation of different orders to cover everything. The presidents and time period that cover the executive orders to move this plan along. Also the uniting of all the orders under one order for ease of implementation and under FEMA. A couple of stories to how close we came to enacting these rules.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is an agency of the United States Department of Homeland Security, initially created by Presidential Reorganization Plan No. 3 of 1978 and implemented by two Executive Orders on April 1, 1979.
   
The second known time that FEMA stood by was in 1990 when Desert Storm was enacted. Prior to President Bush's invasion of Iraq, FEMA began to draft new legislation to increase its already formidable powers. One of the elements incorporated into the plan was to set up operations within any state or locality without the prior permission of local or state authorities. Such prior permission has always been required in the past. Much of the mechanism being set into place was in anticipation of the economic collapse of the Western World. The war with Iraq may have been conceived as a ploy to boost the bankrupt economy, but it only pushed the West into deeper recession.

    The third scenario for FEMA came with the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King brutality verdict. Had the rioting spread to other cities, FEMA would have been empowered to step in. As it was, major rioting only occurred in the Los Angeles area, thus preventing a pretext for a FEMA response.

On July 5, 1987, the Miami Herald published reports on FEMA's new goals. The goal was to suspend the Constitution in the event of a national crisis, such as nuclear war, violent and widespread internal dissent, or national opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad. Lt. Col. North was the architect. National Security Directive Number 52 issued in August 1982, pertains to the "Use of National Guard Troops to Quell Disturbances." The crux of the problem is that FEMA has the power to turn the United States into a police state in time of a real crisis or a manufactured crisis. Lt. Col. North virtually established the apparatus for dictatorship. Only the criticism of the Attorney General prevented the plans from being adopted. But intelligence reports indicate that FEMA has a folder with 22 Executive Orders for the President to sign in case of an emergency. It is believed those Executive Orders contain the framework of North's concepts, delayed by criticism but never truly abandoned. The crisis, as the government now sees it, is civil unrest. For generations, the government was concerned with nuclear war, but the violent and disruptive demonstrations that surrounded the Vietnam War era prompted President Nixon to change the direction of emergency powers from war time to times of domestic unrest.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fema_executive_orders.htm

If you think about it the one thing that gov is prepared to do is secure it's continuation in the event of a national emergency. The people are not important but the gov is, they are the ruling class. The biggest threat is now considered civil unrest by John Q Public. So the powers that truly be, have a plan and if we the fine Americans dont go along with it which is what they fear then they are prepared to use any and all measures to make sure their ideas and continuation of gov is achieved. O has pushed the envelope farther and faster than any other president. The thing that the powers were afraid to do. That is why you see slow implementation of the executive orders through the years and also the changing of US laws in a effort to not call attention or rock the boat. But time is short and O is achieving things that no one thought possible. Rep or Dem its they give us a good show to keep us occupied all the time their goals are being achieved. Why did Congress first reject the bailout but when some one said get back in that chamber and approve it the next day Congress did just that. O is a great manipulator of attention and crisis in order to achieve a planned goal regardless of the humanitarian cost.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

A friend gave me a grainy VHS copy of Iron Mountain decades ago, and told me to be careful about who knew I was in possession of it.  I always thought he was overly paranoid, but as things unfold I think it's more reality than conspiracy.  Make your own conclusions.
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Jess from VA

#7
As true today as in 1863.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.[/b]

Master Blaster

Face it things are like they are because they want it that way, both Democrats and Republicans.  The Republicans do just enough to make it seem like they want it to change, but not enough to really change anything.  All branches run on the taxpayer buck, and the House has the power to defund, except they absolutely refuse to use that power.  They allow the White House to ignore subpoenas and grant immunity to cover up overt flouting of the laws.  Main order of all of them is acquisition of riches and power.  County and public are way down on the list of their priorities.
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czuch

Fox hole, or gallows, is the choice we have to make.
One false flag away. The "children" occupiers may be just that.
"Enact special order,,,,,66"
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Robert

In our own century, the point was well
stated by Justice Louis Brandeis:
The doctrine of the separation of
powers was adopted by the Convention
of 1787, not to promote efficiency,
but to preclude the exercise of
arbitrary power. The purpose was,
not to avoid friction, but, by means of
the inevitable friction incident to the
distribution of governmental powers
among three departments, to save the
people from autocracy."
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

ricoman

I had heard of this before but did not take it very serious (along millions of others)
The Forbes article is well written and provides good insight into the whole concept of executive orders.
Seeing the number of them issued by past Presidents was eye opening.
Seeing this one by our current President is frightening. Frightening simply because of who he is and what he believes in.
I will not be surprised to see this executive order put into effect prior to the end of his current term. The need for it will be contrived and small events will occur (or be made to happen) and highly emphasized  to insure there is support for the implementation when it occurs.
In fact, I will not be surprised to see another executive order extending the current term of office due to some major event in the US (contrived or real). The 22nd Amendment may well be suspended by executive order. If America does not get to the desired socialist level before his term ends, other action will be forced on us. And many will never know what happened.
I hope I am wrong.
take personal responsibility and keep your word



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The emperor has no clothes

Amendments cant be nullified by executive order.

ricoman

Quote from: meathead on Wed 16, Jul 2014, 18:16:04
Amendments cant be nullified by executive order.

didn't say nullified-said suspended
from the Forbes article "What about the Constitution?  It describes presidential power broadly.  There isn't anything in the Constitution that authorizes an executive order or limits what a president can do with it."
take personal responsibility and keep your word



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MarkT

#14
Quote from: ricoman on Wed 16, Jul 2014, 17:59:38
I had heard of this before but did not take it very serious (along millions of others)
The Forbes article is well written and provides good insight into the whole concept of executive orders.
Seeing the number of them issued by past Presidents was eye opening.
Seeing this one by our current President is frightening. Frightening simply because of who he is and what he believes in.
I will not be surprised to see this executive order put into effect prior to the end of his current term. The need for it will be contrived and small events will occur (or be made to happen) and highly emphasized  to insure there is support for the implementation when it occurs.
In fact, I will not be surprised to see another executive order extending the current term of office due to some major event in the US (contrived or real). The 22nd Amendment may well be suspended by executive order. If America does not get to the desired socialist level before his term ends, other action will be forced on us. And many will never know what happened.
I hope I am wrong.

I really think any attempt to extend his term will be met with incredible repercussions.  Armed repercussions.  I hope you are wrong but I too would not put such an attempt past him, given his behavior so far. And the fact he's young, immature, over his head, underqualified for his position, seems to relish overreach and blaming all of his failures on everyone else, and would just as well fit in as dictator in a hundred 3rd world countries, committing atrocities that we as a nation would have to go police up.  I'll stop commenting now before I say what I really mean and attract unwanted attention...

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