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Valk kick stand annoyance

Started by brew1brew, Sat 26, Jul 2014, 15:43:31

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brew1brew

Am I the only one that is annoyed with the kick stand? Every now and then when I come to a stop, like at a light, when I put my left foot down my heal sometimes catches the kickstand and kills the bike.

Just wondering if I'm the only one that has this issue.
Les
2014 Valkyrie GL1800 C Blue

Paxton

Humm... never heard that one but then... what size boot do you wear? :-X
J. Paxton Gomez

1966 First year Bronco... 302 CI V8
1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
1978 Honda 750F / Cafe Racer
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hubcapsc


It hasn't happened to me, but the kick stand is very light and small and
it doesn't take much to fold it out...

What has happened to me numerous times is that I reach for the turn signal
and blow the horn instead...

-Mike

f6gal

#3
Quote from: hubcapsc on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 16:33:37

It hasn't happened to me, but the kick stand is very light and small and
it doesn't take much to fold it out...

What has happened to me numerous times is that I reach for the turn signal
and blow the horn instead...

-Mike

I'm with Mike... done that a bunch of times.

With the floorboards and heel shifter, I can't kick the kickstand accidentally.


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

Bagger

I have a 2001 Wing.  Owned it from new. 

Kickstand is same/same as the 2014 Valkyrie I own, too.

Never had this issue.  Don't know why this would happen??

brew1brew

I guess it's just me then  :evil:

Quote from: Paxton on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 15:46:36
Humm... never heard that one but then... what size boot do you wear? :-X
8.5 usa.

it doesn't happen all that often, I'll just have to pay closer attention when I stop.
Les
2014 Valkyrie GL1800 C Blue

Bagger

Quote from: brew1brew on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 19:35:45
I guess it's just me then  :evil:

Quote from: Paxton on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 15:46:36
Humm... never heard that one but then... what size boot do you wear? :-X
8.5 usa.

it doesn't happen all that often, I'll just have to pay closer attention when I stop.

Wonder if it's your pants?  Perhaps they are longish and trip the KS tab?

I'm like a 10 USA size boot and wear lots of different boots ... western, combat, engineer, yada, yada.  I'm always in boots.

Never had this issue ???

Hope you find out how this happens.  Could be a safety issue IMO.

R J

#7

Let it be said before hand,

I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

Okay, now that we got that taken care of.

When we 1st got the Kawa motors on the CHP, a couple of us had that problem.

We were putting our foot down tooooo close to the side of the bike.

We'd accidentally hit the Kick stand and omph, she'd die.     Very embarrassing if we did it at a light just as it changed to GREEN.

To this day, when riding 2 wheels, I have a tendency to lean to the left and put my foot out to the left a little further.

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Bagger

I was thinking a bit ... between conversations with Kris, watching a movie on TV and typing / reading stuff Online.

Here's a couple deals I tho't about.

Depends on how long your legs are.  If you have a 8.5 boot size, I'm guessing you have legs shorter than my 36 pants size, eh?  If so, when I put my boot down ... my leg is farther from the bike than yours with the same / same saddle height.  Correct? 

This may have you put your foot / boot closer to the tang on the KS and engage same.  Causing the failure to have power when the light changes.

Of course this is stupid stuff that I'm typing ... I have no idea, just guessing.

That said, when I come to a stop, I gear down and have BOTH feet on the ground at stop with clutch / brake engaged.  Some times, I'm in neutral if the stop is particularly long.  But, if you can't have both feet 'on the ground' this may be part of the problem ???

JMFAO here.   :)

Paxton

Get an Euro Kick stand. It'll go in the right hand side. Problem solved! ;) :2funny:
J. Paxton Gomez

1966 First year Bronco... 302 CI V8
1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
1978 Honda 750F / Cafe Racer
2000 GL1500CY Fast-Black Standard Solo Rider

So Cal... 91205

"Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul."

brew1brew

Quote from: Bagger on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 20:16:49

Depends on how long your legs are.  If you have a 8.5 boot size, I'm guessing you have legs shorter than my 36 pants size, eh?  If so, when I put my boot down ... my leg is farther from the bike than yours with the same / same saddle height.  Correct? 

This may have you put your foot / boot closer to the tang on the KS and engage same.  Causing the failure to have power when the light changes.


you may be partially right. I have a 30" inseam. I can just sit flat footed.

Quote from: Bagger on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 19:54:43
Wonder if it's your pants?  Perhaps they are longish and trip the KS tab?

I'm like a 10 USA size boot and wear lots of different boots ... western, combat, engineer, yada, yada.  I'm always in boots.

Never had this issue ???

Hope you find out how this happens.  Could be a safety issue IMO.
No, it's the heal of my boot. not my pants.
Quote from: R J on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 20:02:27

Let it be said before hand,

I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

Okay, now that we got that taken care of.

When we 1st got the Kawa motors on the CHP, a couple of us had that problem.

We were putting our foot down tooooo close to the side of the bike.

We'd accidentally hit the Kick stand and omph, she'd die.     Very embarrassing if we did it at a light just as it changed to GREEN.

To this day, when riding 2 wheels, I have a tendency to lean to the left and put my foot out to the left a little further.


Yup, you know how I feel. but I haven't killed the bike but two times, both while the light was still red.
Les
2014 Valkyrie GL1800 C Blue

Jess from VA

#11
What I am thinking is that the little round bar you use to put your kickstand down is bent too far out and you are accidentally catching it.   Center your bike up in a chock or on the jack (on the ground).  With the kickstand UP, is the little bar tucked nicely up in the cutout in the OE exhaust?  If not, put a small piece of PVC or pipe over the little bar and bend it so it fits snugly up in the exhaust cutout.  

Also, is your kickstand return spring shot?

I also have a short inseam (boards and heel toe shifter) and never had this problem. The little round bar can get bent a bit from a variety of causes, I have repositioned mine in this manner before.

EDIT:  I see from your avatar you have cobras, so you probably do not have an exhaust cutout..... still, bend the deployment bar tighter to the bike when up.   

brew1brew

#12
Quote from: Jess from VA on Sun 27, Jul 2014, 07:04:35
What I am thinking is that the little round bar you use to put your kickstand down is bent too far out and you are accidentally catching it.   Center your bike up in a chock or on the jack (on the ground).  With the kickstand UP, is the little bar tucked nicely up in the cutout in the OE exhaust?  If not, put a small piece of PVC or pipe over the little bar and bend it so it fits snugly up in the exhaust cutout.  

Also, is your kickstand return spring shot?

I also have a short inseam (boards and heel toe shifter) and never had this problem. The little round bar can get bent a bit from a variety of causes, I have repositioned mine in this manner before.

EDIT:  I see from your avatar you have cobras, so you probably do not have an exhaust cutout..... still, bend the deployment bar tighter to the bike when up.    
Keep in mind that we are on the 1800 board, and although I still have my 2002 standard photo as my avitar,  we are on the 1800 board. So with that in mind, we are talking about the 2014 valk, not the 2002 valk.  :evil:

PS I updated my profile to prevent further confusion.
Les
2014 Valkyrie GL1800 C Blue

Jess from VA

Sorry, I'll look closer in the future.   :-X

brew1brew

Quote from: Jess from VA on Sun 27, Jul 2014, 17:55:42
Sorry, I'll look closer in the future.   :-X

no worries, it just gives us some entertainment factor!  :evil:
Les
2014 Valkyrie GL1800 C Blue

justintyper

Quote from: brew1brew on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 15:43:31
Am I the only one that is annoyed with the kick stand? Every now and then when I come to a stop, like at a light, when I put my left foot down my heal sometimes catches the kickstand and kills the bike.

Just wondering if I'm the only one that has this issue.
happened to me when i test rode one a month ago... it caught my heel and i have a 33 inseam and 11 boot. and also i hit the horn trying to cancel the blinkers lol.

Bagger


[/quote] ... and also i hit the horn trying to cancel the blinkers lol.
[/quote]

Having a 2001 GW with the horn and blinker switches in opposite positions from the New Valkyrie ... I blow my horn at lots of folks on the Valk !

You should see the looks as I sit in a line of traffic ... waiting for the light to change and I want (WANT !) to turn on the left blinker.  But, instead, I blow the obviously LOUD horn !  Well, the looks I got were nothing like the 'single finger salute' I got from the dude in front of me in the F-250.

I have to be careful.   :-[

luke

Quote from: brew1brew on Sat 26, Jul 2014, 15:43:31
Am I the only one that is annoyed with the kick stand? Every now and then when I come to a stop, like at a light, when I put my left foot down my heal sometimes catches the kickstand and kills the bike.

Just wondering if I'm the only one that has this issue.
no your not the only one, out of the 28 or so bikes i have had I have never experienced this, I wear a size 12 boot, it happened to me twice the other day, this could be a big safety issue, having been rear ended by a ute whilst riding my diavel and almost killed it brought back memories I was trying to forget, I wouldn't be surprised if Honda do something about this, that said what a great bike.

HayHauler

Les, this happens to me on my 07 Wing from time to time.  Done it about 6 times in the 2 years I have owned it.  I think, like RJ, that I am putting my foot down too close to the bike, since I am short and fat... :)
But, if I am thinking about it, I can put my feet down without this happening.

Hay  8)
Jimmyt
VRCC# 28963

R J

Quote from: HayHauler on Thu 31, Jul 2014, 15:58:52
Les, this happens to me on my 07 Wing from time to time.  Done it about 6 times in the 2 years I have owned it.  I think, like RJ, that I am putting my foot down too close to the bike, since I am short and fat... :)
But, if I am thinking about it, I can put my feet down without this happening.

Hay  8)
Jimmyt

JimmyT, are you insinuating I am FAT?
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HayHauler

Quote from: R J on Thu 31, Jul 2014, 22:31:29
Quote from: HayHauler on Thu 31, Jul 2014, 15:58:52
Les, this happens to me on my 07 Wing from time to time.  Done it about 6 times in the 2 years I have owned it.  I think, like RJ, that I am putting my foot down too close to the bike, since I am short and fat... :)
But, if I am thinking about it, I can put my feet down without this happening.

Hay  8)
Jimmyt

JimmyT, are you insinuating I am FAT?
I believe my exact statement was "since I am short and fat... :) "
No, not directed at you, brother R J.

Hay  8)
Jimmyt
VRCC# 28963

R J



Hey little short & fat buddy, I is a just rattlin your bird cage.
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Firefighter

Hey Brew, you were probably riding lost again down a rough dirt road and that kick stand was jarred too far down!  Just a thought.  Firefighter
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2006 Honda Sabre 1100
2013 Honda Spirit 750
2002 Honda Rebel 250
1978 Honda 750