ISIS in the Middle East

[Paxton]

ISIS: A scary proposition for all the middle east and beyond.
At some point we might have to consider bringing back the Draft. ???
It is sad to see the same and so many of our young women and men been recycled through war.

[..]

ISIS: A scary proposition for all the middle east and beyond.
At some point we might have to consider bringing back the Draft. ???
It is sad to see the same and so many of our young women and men been recycled through war.

The current president has slashed the US Military of service people who willingly joined.

Why then the need for a Draft?

[Master Blaster]

The current presbo brought this situation on, and stood by and watched it develop.  As always he is leading from so far behind that his idea of appropriate action is little or nothing.  The only effective action he has taken in his tenure is to debase and weaken to the point of distruction  the USA.

[BF]

Colonel Allen West at the Reclaim American Liberty Conference

Wipe them out, all of them

[MAD6Gun]

 Today  I saw a excerpt from a interview done by one of the ISIS assholes. Saying that they are going to plant a Muslim flag on the White House. We need to go into Iraq and ELIMINATE all of these ISIS scumbags. Every single one of them. Than and maybe then the US might be feared again. But with the current pussy in charge that will NEVER happen...

[Paxton]

MAD6Gun;
I am with you 100%.
The rhetorical question is, which kids in your family, in  my family or in my neighbors' families are volunteering and/or available to do this. ???
Some, for sure. There are the same 4 nephews  in my family who continue to rotate through deployments.
The same is true for many millions of American families.

I like the Israeli system. Every able body is required to serve for a period of a few years.
I think it is two. (I could be totally wrong.)
If that were the case here, I think that many more members of our society would live up to the "we support the troops" claim.

Do we think that politicians would pass such a law thus putting their kids on the line? Yes, I am including the President's  daughters on this thought.

[Patrick]

I thought we invented the answer back in '45.  It was successful then, why not now. Turn that area into a sheet of glass.

[Novavalker]

MAD6Gun;
I am with you 100%.
The rhetorical question is, which kids in your family, in  my family or in my neighbors' families are volunteering and/or available to do this. ???
Some, for sure. There are the same 4 nephews  in my family who continue to rotate through deployments.
The same is true for many millions of American families.

I like the Israeli system. Every able body is required to serve for a period of a few years.
I think it is two. (I could be totally wrong.)
If that were the case here, I think that many more members of our society would live up to the "we support the troops" claim.

Do we think that politicians would pass such a law thus putting their kids on the line? Yes, I am including the President's  daughters on this thought.

The problem isn't a shortage of volunteers but the rules of engagement forced upon the troops that puts them at risk. Many died in Iraq and Afghanistan because the administration is paranoid  about collateral damage.
Flash up the B52s and carpet bomb them into oblivion. If the fragmentation doesn't get them the blast wave will. Use whatever weapon gets the job done. Your dealing with ISIS savages who cut the head off the fathers and kick it around like a soccer ball in front of family members.
In addition arm the Kurds. They are begging for weapons and unlike the iraqi's have the intestinal fortitude to fight.
Countries that support terrorism must have crippling sanctions imposed on them. Assets frozen and  zero trade etc.
Make Iraqi pay the bill for getting them out of this mess. Take a percentage of their oil revenues until the slate is cleared.
It will be a long slog to defeat ISIS and others like them. All member's of the G8 should be making a contribution towards this effort.

[Romeo]

MAD6Gun;
I am with you 100%.
The rhetorical question is, which kids in your family, in  my family or in my neighbors' families are volunteering and/or available to do this. ???
Some, for sure. There are the same 4 nephews  in my family who continue to rotate through deployments.
The same is true for many millions of American families.

I like the Israeli system. Every able body is required to serve for a period of a few years.
I think it is two. (I could be totally wrong.)
If that were the case here, I think that many more members of our society would live up to the "we support the troops" claim.

Do we think that politicians would pass such a law thus putting their kids on the line? Yes, I am including the President's  daughters on this thought.

The problem isn't a shortage of volunteers but the rules of engagement forced upon the troops that puts them at risk. Many died in Iraq and Afghanistan because the administration is paranoid  about collateral damage.
Flash up the B52s and carpet bomb them into oblivion. If the fragmentation doesn't get them the blast wave will. Use whatever weapon gets the job done. Your dealing with ISIS savages who cut the head off the fathers and kick it around like a soccer ball in front of family members.
In addition arm the Kurds. They are begging for weapons and unlike the iraqi's have the intestinal fortitude to fight.
Countries that support terrorism must have crippling sanctions imposed on them. Assets frozen and  zero trade etc.
Make Iraqi pay the bill for getting them out of this mess. Take a percentage of their oil revenues until the slate is cleared.
It will be a long slog to defeat ISIS and others like them. All member's of the G8 should be making a contribution towards this effort.

Nova, I am in complete agreement with your solution. We need to understand who it is we are dealing with, and act accordingly. Btw, any chance you were born in the U.S. S we could run you for president? Wait, we don't have to worry about limiting ourselves in that way any longer. The precedent has been set by the current admin.

[Paxton]

Patrick,
As we know 1945 technology is outdated.    Err... I am not a scientist!

Cuttin' through the chase and nukin' all of them, including Russia can be done in about 45 minutes.

Then, the whole planet will be ours, we'd never have to worry about oil again.
The next question would be; who is willing to work those oil fields @ $1M per hour? ???

Most of the planet would be inhabitable for the next 350 million years. (give or take 100 million.)
After the "mushroom cloud" thins out in 'bout 1,000 years, we'll find our world would be flat again.
Ridin' a Valk inside the Fallout Shelter for that long won't be fun; at least not for me.
It sounds a bit too Armageddon-ish, I'd say.

[Rams]

I won't go into foreign policy, I don't have sufficient information to suggest what we should do but, I do agree with every 18 year old serving at least two years in the military.    No bullshit Peace Corps crap, serve your country.   If you want to serve in the Peace Corps afterwards, be my guest.

This would do two things, those kids would grow up and mature a little and the military would have sufficient "volunteers" to get the tasks done.

Yes, I have served and both my kids have served.    One is still serving.    They are serving so you and I can be free.

[Novavalker]

Patrick,
As we know 1945 technology is outdated.    Err... I am not a scientist!

Cuttin' through the chase and nukin' all of them, including Russia can be done in about 45 minutes.

Then, the whole planet will be ours, we'd never have to worry about oil again.
The next question would be; who is willing to work those oil fields @ $1M per hour? ???

Most of the planet would be inhabitable for the next 350 million years. (give or take 100 million.)
After the "mushroom cloud" thins out in 'bout 1,000 years, we'll find our world would be flat again.
Ridin' a Valk inside the Fallout Shelter for that long won't be fun; at least not for me.
It sounds a bit too Armageddon-ish, I'd say.

Nobody is suggesting nukes.
There are plenty of other weapons and tactics that can have devastating effects.
ISIS knows secular progressive leaders don't have the balls to do what's necessary and they exploit their weakness.
Once again troops will once again have to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. Watch their buddies get killed, attend ramp ceremonies and repeat.
Spineless leadership is supported by a spineless voting block and the main stream media. ISIS useful idiots.
Imagine being trapped on top of a mountain, dying slowly of thirst, and knowing the only thing that awaits upon descent is certain death or capture by ISIS terrorists? This is exactly what is reportedly happening atop Mount Sinjar in Iraq.
Meanwhile Obama heads off to Martha's Vineyard for a week of golfing while the genocide continues.

[Robert]

First lets not be the world policeman or if we are lets get in do the job, next when we go in take a country like Iraq lets not worry about political correctness lets adopt them and occupy them as if they are part of the US. Lets not conquer and leave, Russia does not do that and I know of no other country that does that. Hell everyone want to come to the US so lets bring it to them. Lets not Leave a void when pulling out it gives us what happened in Iraq. I say make the politicians pay for their bad decisions that waste our kids lives, like pulling out to soon. Next in Vietnam we use lives to negotiate rather than going in with all our might. If its a war like 1 and 2 then lets treat it as such. I personally think all of Washington that was around at that time should be charged with murder. How can you justify sending troops into any area and say you cannot use all the options you have available with the result being loss in our families lives. If its important enough to have our men and women go then its important enough to respect their lives and service and give them all the tools to do the job.  We have lost truth in this country, we are not at war its a military exercise. If allow men to die to support political objectives then it should be with the understanding that the men that go are the most important thing not the ground not the political correctness not another country but the men. With the weight of that decision being the thing that discourages its use, just like the atomic bomb.

  Insanity we look to a bomb as a deterrent and protect it, yet send our young men to die and tell them they cannot protect themselves fully. They are the ones that won wars they are to be treated with respect, When the US comes it should be with the idea that there's going to be a ass whoopiing and we will see what kind of deterrent that is. No more lies from politicians who sit and do nothing and have no dog in the fight. Clear goals, clear objectives, full use of power and weapons and I doubt we would have a problem.

O was against the surge in troops in Afghanistan that helped us now he pulled out to soon and allowed ISIS to get in.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

In many ways we've created this mess. I don't think we should have put boots on the ground there in the first place. But since we did we should have given the military a goal and the resources needed and let them do it without political interference. If we're going to ask our children to fight, they deserve the ability to fight to win.

I think the day after we were originally attacked we should have killed every living thing in Afghanistan without ever sending in ground troops and therefore, probably without any casualties. That's the only kind of response our enemies would have respected.

Then we should have stayed the hell out of the region unless they attacked us again.

Unfortunately, because we elected a weak president while we were at war, we created this mess, we literally own it. It's not Obama's fault, he did exactly what he was expected to do. It's the fault of those who elected him, period.

Truthfully I don't know what we should do now, I don't want to see more ground troops sent in. But we caused this, we need to fix it. I think the only thing to do is put it in the hands of our military and tell them to do whatever it takes to protect those people. Any long term solution will require a separate state for non-terrorists.

What really amazes me is, why didn't we arm the Christians before we left? Who could have possibly doubted they'd need arms, ammo and some training in their use? Why didn't we setup a separate country for the Kurds and good military arms and training for them?

But, if we had nuked Afghanistan immediately, just as soon as we knew who attacked us, we and the world would be safer now. And if, instead of making apologies for it, we had told the world, "attack us again and you are next" then I think we and the world would be WAY safer now.

[Patrick]

Patrick,
As we know 1945 technology is outdated.    Err... I am not a scientist!

Cuttin' through the chase and nukin' all of them, including Russia can be done in about 45 minutes.

Then, the whole planet will be ours, we'd never have to worry about oil again.
The next question would be; who is willing to work those oil fields @ $1M per hour? ???

Most of the planet would be inhabitable for the next 350 million years. (give or take 100 million.)
After the "mushroom cloud" thins out in 'bout 1,000 years, we'll find our world would be flat again.
Ridin' a Valk inside the Fallout Shelter for that long won't be fun; at least not for me.
It sounds a bit too Armageddon-ish, I'd say.

Nobody is suggesting nukes.
There are plenty of other weapons and tactics that can have devastating effects.
ISIS knows secular progressive leaders don't have the balls to do what's necessary and they exploit their weakness.
Once again troops will once again have to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. Watch their buddies get killed, attend ramp ceremonies and repeat.
Spineless leadership is supported by a spineless voting block and the main stream media. ISIS useful idiots.
Imagine being trapped on top of a mountain, dying slowly of thirst, and knowing the only thing that awaits upon descent is certain death or capture by ISIS terrorists? This is exactly what is reportedly happening atop Mount Sinjar in Iraq.
Meanwhile Obama heads off to Martha's Vineyard for a week of golfing while the genocide continues.

What I was trying to say, I believe is called a metaphor. Maybe thats the wrong word, but, I think most got the gist.
I'm fed up with those crazy idiots just as most are. It would maybe bring a smile to my face if it was said that we brought all our boys and girls home and started bombing the crap out the part of the world.
Seems like similar things have happened thru-out history.
What bothers the heck out of me is the number of people murdered thru-out history because of religion.

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http://www.news.com.au/national/video-from-islamic-state-shows-how-children-are-being-trained-to-be-jihadists/story-e6frfkp9-1227019850990

[Robert]

http://www.news.com.au/national/video-from-islamic-state-shows-how-children-are-being-trained-to-be-jihadists/story-e6frfkp9-1227019850990

Very good nice to see someone is able to get the truth out.


WOW are the sharks circling in the water around O knowing there may be blood in the water?

Hillary Clinton has taken her furthest, most public step away yet from President Barack Obama, rejecting the core of his self-described foreign policy doctrine and describing his decision against backing Syrian rebels early on as a "failure."

She also stood unequivocally with Israel in its current battle with Hamas in a lengthy, detailed interview on foreign policy with The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg, which was conducted last week prior to the president's authorization of airstrikes against Islamist militants in Iraq. The interview was published late Saturday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/hillary-clinton-takes-president-barack-obama-109887.html#ixzz3A1owebYs

[Skinhead]

http://www.news.com.au/national/video-from-islamic-state-shows-how-children-are-being-trained-to-be-jihadists/story-e6frfkp9-1227019850990

It would have been nice to lob a few missiles into that caliphate pep rally.