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I think he's doing it wrong.

Started by BF, Mon 11, Aug 2014, 12:20:10

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BF

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PAVALKER

So how do you do it?     I don't sit on mine when I put it up on the jack, but that's me. 
John                           

Jess from VA

I never sit on the bike.  I put a two-by under the kickstand, lay down on the ground next to the jack, get it lined up underneath, get the (wood) adapter in place, reach over and work the jack pedal with my hand until the bike is straight and level on the jack.  Then get up and pump it with the foot.  And get it on the safety bar/catch immediately (and release then reset the hydraulics).

I NEVER jack the bike near a car or anything else it could fall on.  I never put my kickstand up (or move the block of wood).

By the time that video is over, I have already been working on the bike for awhile.

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Jess from VA on Mon 11, Aug 2014, 13:11:38
I never sit on the bike.  I put a two-by under the kickstand, lay down on the ground next to the jack, get it lined up underneath, get the (wood) adapter in place, reach over and work the jack pedal with my hand until the bike is straight and level on the jack.  Then get up and pump it with the foot.  And get it on the safety bar/catch immediately (and release then reset the hydraulics).

I NEVER jack the bike near a car or anything else it could fall on.  I never put my kickstand up (or move the block of wood).

By the time that video is over, I have already been working on the bike for awhile.
Just how I do it, but I usually accidentally kick the block of wood out of position

Chrisj CMA

I have never sat on the bike during the lifting process, but that's not where he failed.  If you notice to lower the bike all he had to do was press the release.  That means it was not on a safety.  Do it that way enough times (not very many) and you will turn away to grab a tool only to hear the awful crashing sound of the bike falling over because the bottle gave way.  Use the safety that's what its there for.  I get it to a safety step I like and then let the pressure out of the bottle so it can rest while the bike sits on the lift hard on a safety.

BF

Quote from: PAVALKER on Mon 11, Aug 2014, 12:46:29
So how do you do it?     I don't sit on mine when I put it up on the jack, but that's me. 

Not like he does.   :uglystupid2:

Slide lift under bike, line it up with the lift adapter, screw down the stabizers on the lift, grab the right handlebar grip and pump the lift.  The bike rights itself on jack.  Same way going down.  Always keep the the kickstand down. 

Just like this guy does (skip to 3:00)......

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But don't ask me what I think of you
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0leman

Guess I have been doing it wrong all this time,  Jacked her up maybe 10 times in the last 6 years.

I get the jack in the correct position with bike on kick stand.  Then grab the hand brake and slide on to the seat.  While the bike is upright, reach down with right hand and pump the jack several times to make contact with the adapter.  Once it is stable, then slide off (did mention I have a 35 inch inseam).   Once off, grab the right hand grip, stand by back tire, pump the bike up to desired level.  At that time, place jack stand under the crash bar,  let the bike stand down till the bar make contact with crash bars.  Check to see if rock solid, then get to work.

I may try the method of initial pumping while on kick stand and off the bike to see how it works next time I rise Valk up.
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wiggydotcom

I just pull up on my grabrail while pushing down with my right foot on the Rivco center stand. Takes about 7 seconds. Jacking under the engine guard then brings the front wheel off the ground if needed.

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John Schmidt

Well, to my way of thinking, that method is an accident waiting to happen. And in over 60 yrs. of riding I've never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand. To each his own I guess.

BudMan

Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
... never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand.
That may be a regional thing, John. My Dad called them that sometimes and I remember hearing it as a kid back in Memphis TN and north MS growing up. Definitely more from my Dad's generation than mine.
Just before taking this picture Dad had said something about using the stock starter peddle on the Harley as a "jiffystand" on the right side. It wont' work with this one though, he added another 3/4 inch to the shaft to make it easier for him to start. (He was 94 in this picture.)

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John Schmidt

Quote from: BudMan on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 17:02:34
Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
... never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand.
That may be a regional thing, John. My Dad called them that sometimes and I remember hearing it as a kid back in Memphis TN and north MS growing up. Definitely more from my Dad's generation than mine.
Just before taking this picture Dad had said something about using the stock starter peddle on the Harley as a "jiffystand" on the right side. It wont' work with this one though, he added another 3/4 inch to the shaft to make it easier for him to start. (He was 94 in this picture.)


92....wow, good for him. I'd like to be in good enough shape to still take a ride once in awhile if I live that long.

specialdose

      I use my yellow H F every day I ride, daily most times. I use same procedure as BF. Easy peasy. I use mine as a turn around. My drive way is 30' with a steep descent. I like departing frontwards. I have the pro lift on mine.

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xman

I say all of what he did looks dangerous.

He lines up the lift with the exact bike location from sitting on top of the bike. How do you get the location correct every time?

While sitting on the bike, he reaches out with the right leg and starts pumping. How many times can he do that before loosening the balance, and it all goes over to the right side?

He climbs on the bike with it in the air. How many times can he do that before it goes over?




To keep the suspension unloaded, I have mine on the lift anytime I not riding.

I start with the side stand on a 2X X, just a little more upright starting position.

Looking under the bike!!! I roll the lift under the bike and position it in the exact same location every time.

Standing on the side of the bike hold the handle bars as I pump the foot pedal. As the lift contact the bottom of the bike, it straights the bike up off the side stand. Not much to hold but I hold the bars until it's lifting off the shocks.


Lower it from the side and make sure it goes left, onto the side stand.
   

Ken Tarver

 :coolsmiley: Jess, meathead, Chris........me too!

Ken

BF

Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
Well, to my way of thinking, that method is an accident waiting to happen

Ditto John, ditto. 

That's what I'm saying....accident waiting to happen. 
I can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to



ugelstad

I think we should think about this some more. 

Spirited-6

Was that a Harley he was lifting ? NUFF SAID.  I have lifted my Tourer with much ease than he shows and W/O danger of tip over.  :crazy2:
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Hooter

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For cryin out loud    ;D   He at some time will lose the bike.
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BradValk48237

Dammit!!!

I wasted 3 and a half minutes waiting for the bike to fall off the lift and go BOOM!!!!

You should warn a fella!!!!!

LOL


Bard

Jess Tolbirt

jiffy stand is what its called on a harley..thats the actual part name.
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ricoman

Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
Well, to my way of thinking, that method is an accident waiting to happen. And in over 60 yrs. of riding I've never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand. To each his own I guess.



jiffystand is a Harley term.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_Harley-Davidson_call_the_side_kickstand_a_%27jiffy_stand%27_in_the_owner%27s_manual
Harley sidestands have a safely feature-when the weight of the bike is on the stand, the bike can't easily roll forward off the stand. Good idea actually. Look at one up close if you get a chance.
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MP

Yep.  With our design, always worry about side stand if used with the nose of the bike going down hill.  With the Harley "Jiffstand", it will NOT fold up.  It "locks" into place.

Good design.

MP

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Chrisj CMA

Quote from: ricoman on Thu 14, Aug 2014, 05:30:00
Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
Well, to my way of thinking, that method is an accident waiting to happen. And in over 60 yrs. of riding I've never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand. To each his own I guess.



jiffystand is a Harley term.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_Harley-Davidson_call_the_side_kickstand_a_%27jiffy_stand%27_in_the_owner%27s_manual
Harley sidestands have a safely feature-when the weight of the bike is on the stand, the bike can't easily roll forward off the stand. Good idea actually. Look at one up close if you get a chance.

Well, I don't doubt what you say that its a safety feature, but to someone inexperienced with Harley Davidson motorcycles that "jiffy" stand thing feels just the opposite.  It feels like after you set the bike on it it WANTS to roll forward.  Scared me the first time I had to reposition a Harley and used that jiffy stand thing.

MP

Quote from: Chrisj CMA on Thu 14, Aug 2014, 08:18:01
Quote from: ricoman on Thu 14, Aug 2014, 05:30:00
Quote from: John Schmidt on Tue 12, Aug 2014, 11:26:57
Well, to my way of thinking, that method is an accident waiting to happen. And in over 60 yrs. of riding I've never heard the kickstand/sidestand referred to as a jiffystand. To each his own I guess.



jiffystand is a Harley term.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_Harley-Davidson_call_the_side_kickstand_a_%27jiffy_stand%27_in_the_owner%27s_manual
Harley sidestands have a safely feature-when the weight of the bike is on the stand, the bike can't easily roll forward off the stand. Good idea actually. Look at one up close if you get a chance.

Well, I don't doubt what you say that its a safety feature, but to someone inexperienced with Harley Davidson motorcycles that "jiffy" stand thing feels just the opposite.  It feels like after you set the bike on it it WANTS to roll forward.  Scared me the first time I had to reposition a Harley and used that jiffy stand thing.

I agree, feels different, but, like most things, easy to get used to.

When I got my first HD, a 2003 100th Anniversary model, I went to put it on the side stand. Thought it was folding up when I leaned it over!  Then, it got to where it held.  Nothing wrong, just thought the bike was going over the first time!  LOL

But, by the 2nd or 3rd time, never thought about it again.

MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"