The New 2015 F-150

[T.P.]

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-ford-f-150-trim-guide/med/#photo-2811508

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/2015-Ford-F-150-Pricing.pdf

YEP,  There is one with T.P.'s name on it. 

[big d]

Waiting to find out which color pulls at the heart strings the most...

[cookiedough]

good luck, better be wearing a flame suit:  http://www.autoblog.com/2014/08/04/ford-f-series-super-duty-fire-photos-amazing/

If ford thinks almost all aluminum body thus saving  about 700lbs. of weight is the future, wish them well.

That ecoboost twin turbo V6 has it's fair share of issues as well:  http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/14/nhtsa-closes-ford-f-150-ecoboost-acceleration-probe-report/

Despite Dodge Ram's past reliability issues, that new 1/2 ton diesel getting near 30 hwy. mpg is an innovative engine if it is reliable in the long run.

Flame suit on - LITERALLY 

[BF]

If anyone is wondering what to get me for Christmas this year, I'll take a Platinum edition. 

[T.P.]

good luck, better be wearing a flame suit:  http://www.autoblog.com/2014/08/04/ford-f-series-super-duty-fire-photos-amazing/

If ford thinks almost all aluminum body thus saving  about 700lbs. of weight is the future, wish them well.

That ecoboost twin turbo V6 has it's fair share of issues as well:  http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/14/nhtsa-closes-ford-f-150-ecoboost-acceleration-probe-report/

Despite Dodge Ram's past reliability issues, that new 1/2 ton diesel getting near 30 hwy. mpg is an innovative engine if it is reliable in the long run.

Flame suit on - LITERALLY  

The fire was to a 2016 Super Duty Prototype.   thats not the same as the 2015  F-150 model.

next.

Together, NHTSA and Ford determined that the problem resulted from cylinders misfiring, an issue itself stemming from water getting into the charge air cooler (CAC) mated to the turbochargers. In particularly humid or rainy conditions, water was found to get into the CAC, causing some of the cylinders to misfire, which in turn triggered the ECU to disable those cylinders in order to protect the catalytic converter from damage.


Ford conducted its own testing and, rather than issue a recall, published a series of technical service bulletins prompting dealers to install deflect shields onto the CAC in the vehicles in question, solving the problem to 95-percent effectiveness in 2011-12 models and 100 percent in 2013 models. Apparently satisfied that Ford had resolved the issue, NHTSA has closed the file on this particular case.

No NHTSA  prescribed recall.

[R J]

T.P.

Ford is a (F)irkin (O)ld (R)ecycled (D)odge.

Drove them for years, got 2 lemons in a row and switched over to Dodge, and haven't looked back.

Before the Crown Vic we drove Chrysler Products, then they switched to the Crown Vic, now the CHP is back into Chargers, not 100%, but as the old cars wear out, they are replaced with Chargers.

The Ford's had a lousy reliability problem when used in service.

Just my $.17898 opinion.

It is your $$$$, you buy what ya want and to please yourself not me.   

[Skinhead]

"Thermal Events" as they are referred to in the auto industry, are quite common in the development stage of a vehicle, especially one covered in camo and pulling trailers at GCVW out of Stove Pipe Wells in Death Valley.  All manufacturers test there just to subject their product to extreme customer use.   I wish I had a dollar for every time I ran this grade under those conditions, but as far as the Generals trucks go, I was always amazed at how effective the cooling systems were running for miles, up hill at WOT at 130 degrees ambient with AC on max.  Now I only worked on naturally aspirated trucks.  Turbos have much higher exhaust temperatures, and it doesn't surprise me that Ford had an incident in DV.  I'm sure they will work it out.  I am a believer though, that if you are going to work your truck, there are two choices diesel or large displacement.  Turbochargers are good for sports cars but not so much for spark ignited HD trucks. 

[BnB Tom]

  F(for) O(our) R(recreational) D(development)!! 

Ah yes..  the old "Ford vs. Chevy" controversy. 

  Heard it for years.

Buy what you like and enjoy. 

[jimmytee]

  F(for) O(our) R(recreational) D(development)!! 

Ah yes..  the old "Ford vs. Chevy" controversy. 

  Heard it for years.

Buy what you like and enjoy. 

Yes, I was amused a bit. Let's see, Chevy vs. Ford or even Dodge, What oil?, Like / dislike new Valkyrie, Darkside or not, Harley vs. everyone else...

[Patrick]

I'm not sure what reliability issues Dodge had, but, they are pretty bullet proof now.

Ford is having issues with the Eco-Boost engines and has had a lot of issues with the 6.0 and 6.4 smokers as well as the the three valve gas engines. I'm not sure I would run out and buy anything during its first year, especially an aluminum body that'll live its life in the northeast.

[Robert]

aluminum bodys ???? take it from an old body shop owner and auto damage appraiser, if you think insurance is expensive now, if you think repairing a vehicle costs too much now, just wait till you see what an all aluminum truck costs to buy, and what it will cost to insure and repair.

for the most part you cannot really repair it, you have to replace all the panels. it might be a bit lighter and get a mile or two better mileage, but the new small diesels will do all that without being made of aluminum.

time will tell

Yup I am in total agreement with this and want to add with all the electronics and controls it has gotten alot more expensive to repair mechanically also. So when you get hit with the insurance bill or repair bill dont be surprised. We had a very heavy rain here and quite a few BMW's got wet, most were totaled with the cars looking ok. It was all because the cost of electronics and engine systems to repair would have cost to much. They make these cars and trucks with no care about repair costs so be prepared.

[Serk]

[Fritz The Cat]

Bought my last Ford many years ago, learned the hard way. Never again. You won't find a company that cares less about it's customers than Ford.

[Patrick]

Bought my last Ford many years ago, learned the hard way. Never again. You won't find a company that cares less about it's customers than Ford.

Wait till you have a problem with a Toyota.

[Patrick]

we had a freestar last year, bought it used cause the wife makes big wedding cakes and needed something t transport them in. we had a heavy rain and the damn thing stopped running. had it towed to ford who diagnosed a flooded computer. huh ? seems the main harness for the ecm plugs into the harness right under the cowl on the right side, the rain runs down the firewall and floods the computer (quite common) I asked if I owned a vehicle that couldn't be driven in the rain or run through a car wash, their answer was "well, sort of" they repaired it $1,100.00 and my wife now drives a chevy equinox.

I can sure understand your switch. I was born in a Studebaker parts room and grew up in Stude and Ford shops.
We sold the franchise, but, I still bought Ford. The last F150 was the last Ford I will ever buy. I argued with Ford reps over a no-start issue for 2.5 years, [ the problem was exactly as I said from day 1] finally fixed the damn thing and then when it rusted to the frame within 4 years I said no more.
Ford did take bail-out monies, but, they were smart about it in how the contract was written and money 'loaned'.

[cma1]

Bought my last Ford many years ago, learned the hard way. Never again. You won't find a company that cares less about it's customers than Ford.

that would mean actually owning a Toyota --NOT !



Wait till you have a problem with a Toyota.

[BF]

And the number #1 selling truck in America is.......



http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2014/08/usa-pickup-truck-sales-figures-july-2014-ytd.html

My last two vehicles have been an '86 Bronco and a '97 Expedition.  Well over a quarter million miles on each of them.  The Expedition is still going strong and is a nice driving and nice riding vehicle.  

My next vehicle WILL BE a Ford F-150.....hopefully a Platinum edition (gotta get the wife's Accord paid off first though   ).

[Fritz The Cat]

Bought my last Ford many years ago, learned the hard way. Never again. You won't find a company that cares less about it's customers than Ford.

Wait till you have a problem with a Toyota.

I have a 2003 Sequoia. Never had a problem with it. Just routine maintenance and Tires every once in a while. It speaks for itself.

[cookiedough]

I've said it time and time again, they all make very nice 1/2 ton trucks now:  chevy/gmc, ford, dodge, toyota.

All have their advantages and disadvantages.  Been a loyal chevy silverado owner from 1990 to 2007 when finally the new 2007 toyota tundra double cab 5.7L V8 came out.  NO looking back best engine/tranny out there in a 1/2 ton to date and best resale in 2-5  years no doubt in my region whatsoever.  

I also was in the running to buy a crewcab 6 1/2' bed 2014 chevy silverado but the wimpy 5.3L engine and way underpowered transmission and horrible gearing being a 3.42 rear axle ratio and the dreaded active fuel mgmt. shutting down cylinders (not trusted) was like driving a prius almost vs. my current tundra.  Yes, it had a softer ride, but the softer seats as well was not to my liking and horrible turning radius with the GM trucks vs. my current Tundra.  

Best to go drive them ALL and find out what you prefer best.  Might even consider a Dodge Ram next but I know resale would be the worst of the bunch in my region since I like to trade in every 2-4 years and so far,  the tundra have only lost about 2-2.5K grand in depreciation per year of owning is all - hard to beat that.  

Toyota dealers in my region want and desire your used Tundras and pay top dollar for them since at most 1-2 used ones on their lot EVER vs. say 20-30 GM or Fords or Dodges sitting used not selling.  Not may Toyota dealers even have more than 10 new Tundras sitting on their lots at one time even the larger dealers vs. most Big 3 (GM, ford, Dodge) have well over 20-30 new trucks.

[Big Al of Tennessee]

[BF]

Well, the new Fords are already having huge problems. A trailer load of new ones went thru the local toll booth on the NYS thruway yesterday and the attendant had to tell the driver that 2 of his load were on fire. The load got burnt to a crisp. It appears to me the fires started near/at the BCMs. I have a feeling these vehicles are going have all kinds of ground problems.
I learned something too, I didn't realize these were supposed to be transported with the batteries disconnected. That kinda tells me all I need to know about them.

Did a google and found nadda.  You have a link to that story?

[cookiedough]

I really think Ford is taking a huge gamble on all this aluminum body.  It appears from what I have been reading up on the cost/msrp of these new 2015 ford aluminum bodies are going to be reasonably priced.  As commented already though, without real sheet metal the cost to repair damages and replace body panels are going to be EXTREMELY high and difficult to repair.

The thought of 700lb. weight savings is huge thus saving gas is the whole idea behind the all aluminum body panels, but Ford is taking a huge gamble on their #1 selling vehicle in history.  There are better ways of improving MPG vs. weight reduction.  

These 1/2 ton trucks really need to improve their MPG all get between 16-20 hwy. mpg is about it and have been for past 30 years or so always getting 16-17 hwy. mpg.  Yeah, they have improved mpg but ONLY 1-3 mpg at best the past 25+ years.  Mfgs. keep adding weight by adding features NOT needed on trucks turning them into fancy cars basically.  Maybe the general public wants all these fancy features, but not me.  I want a  reliable tow vehicle not costing an arm and a leg for extra gadgets I will never use.   Yet another reason I bought the toyota tundra SR5 mid-level package besides tons more power.  The cost to purchase vs. the new 2014 chevy silverado was a lot less to purchase plus resale is a lot higher.  Yah, the chevy gets 2 more mpg is about it, but not enough to sway me to go back to chevy unless they put the new 6.2L V8 (equivalent in power to my 5.7L tundra) in the mid-level package which you cannot even get unless go top trim level costing well over 40 grand.

[Patrick]

I felt it best to delete the previous post and response. I doubt there will ever be a story.



I wanted to send you a PM, but, as computer illiterate as I am, I can't figure it out. I know is easy, but, I guess not for me.
But, once the trucks were delivered they disappeared very quickly.

[T.P.]

 In Dearborn MI  today

http://www.freep.com/article/20140824/BUSINESS0102/308240070/2015-Ford-F-150-pickup-aluminum-Dearborn-Truck-plant-Kansas-City-plant


I ordered a 2015 Lariat 4x4 Crew Cab today   

[98valk]

for the Ford bashers, have u looked at the vibration problems the chevy pickups have had for the last few yrs? numerous buy backs and lemon law cases. they are so bad the '15 pickups are not even being offered yet. just do a search it is really bad for people who are shelling out $30-50k for a pickup.

[blackvalk]

Who thinks that might be a set up. It's way too convenient that they had a camera taking that many great pictures.

THAT'S BS...............SET UP!

[cookiedough]

for the Ford bashers, have u looked at the vibration problems the chevy pickups have had for the last few yrs? numerous buy backs and lemon law cases. they are so bad the '15 pickups are not even being offered yet. just do a search it is really bad for people who are shelling out $30-50k for a pickup.

That is the main reason not buying a new 2014 chevy silverado for me.  I did my research and those made in Mexico silverado's are having tons of quality control issues and faulty parts.  If you go onto the gmtruckforums you will see 100's of pages of issues customers are having.  I found one so funny that the power sliding rear window in the middle had to be taken off all current inventory trucks and deleted since don't work and no fix was in the works to remedy it just that the plant was NOT going to equip the power sliding rear window for 2014 any longer.  Any owners having issues with their bought power sliding rear windows take it to dealer and NO fix, just get a credit apparently since cannot get the power slider in anymore.  Sounds like GM jumped the gun on putting out the new 2014's without doing much quality control or testing and the price is so high is crazy to buy one IMO. 

That said, no truck is bulletproof.  The tundra I have has or can have an AIP (air induction pump) issue and has been an issue in most year tundras where the truck goes into limp mode and makes driving impossible at hwy. speeds.  To this day,  at least Toyota is warrantying the AIP for 100K miles but there are some customers a tad over 100K miles out of luck which is B.S.  Toyota knows there is or could be an AIP issue, yet NO remedy either besides replacing in hopes the new AIP doesn't go bad yet again.

 

[big d]

Didn't know tom was asking any one's opinion... Why don't you nay Sayers just call him an idiot outright. You are stopping just short of that. Remember opinions are like @$$holes, everyone has one. Why can't you say congratulations and I wish you much success with your purchase.
     The problem with the Eco boost engine was corrected by ford. They got ahead of it, unlike other manufacturers. Dodge is no longer an AMERICAN owned company and GM is moving its r&d along with production of parts over seas. Their cars are like Harley's, being assembled in the U.S.A.
      Ford like all of the other car manufacturers have their short comings. Like any company you can get a miserable p.o.s. To deal with if you are unhappy and complaining. They also all produce products that have issues.
       Remember there are different seats for different butts.
       As far as police dept.'s purchasing vehicles they usually purchase according to price. According to all the L.E.O.'s I have ever spoken to say the same thing. Going as far back as the 60's that while fords are not always the fastest they usually are the most reliable. And as for speed the new Taurus interceptor takes that issue off the table. Reliability as well as being faster than the dodge's or Chevy impala's is fast becoming the choice of police departments.
     

[cookiedough]

Didn't know tom was asking any one's opinion... Why don't you nay Sayers just call him an idiot outright. You are stopping just short of that. Remember opinions are like @$$holes, everyone has one. Why can't you say congratulations and I wish you much success with your purchase.
    The problem with the Eco boost engine was corrected by ford. They got ahead of it, unlike other manufacturers. Dodge is no longer an AMERICAN owned company and GM is moving its r&d along with production of parts over seas. Their cars are like Harley's, being assembled in the U.S.A.
     Ford like all of the other car manufacturers have their short comings. Like any company you can get a miserable p.o.s. To deal with if you are unhappy and complaining. They also all produce products that have issues.
      Remember there are different seats for different butts.
      As far as police dept.'s purchasing vehicles they usually purchase according to price. According to all the L.E.O.'s I have ever spoken to say the same thing. Going as far back as the 60's that while fords are not always the fastest they usually are the most reliable. And as for speed the new Taurus interceptor takes that issue off the table. Reliability as well as being faster than the dodge's or Chevy impala's is fast becoming the choice of police departments.
     

well said, congrats!

Only thing I think you are mistaken some on is the GM cars are like Harleys, being assembled in the USA.  I see more and more now of the big 3 being produced not in the USA but elsewhere while mfgs. like Toyota and Hyundai and others are more being made in USA vs. say Japan/Korea, etc.  

Not sure either on the reliability thing on Ford f150's, but everyone as you said, has an opinion and entitled to it.  

I say buy what makes you happy and the heck with anyone else's opinion.  That's been my motto for life.  I buy a Honda Valkyrie vs. all others around me buying HD's and V-twins.  I buy a Toyota tundra vs. all others buying into the Big 3.  The list goes on and on.  I buy what I feel best suits my needs in several categories, plain and simple. 

[Patrick]

Hmmm, didn't get from the posts that anyone had bought one of the aluminum Fords. If anyone has, I hope they have good luck with it.

[Serk]

Didn't know tom was asking any one's opinion... Why don't you nay Sayers just call him an idiot outright. You are stopping just short of that. Remember opinions are like @$$holes, everyone has one. Why can't you say congratulations and I wish you much success with your purchase.

My poking fun at Ford is similar to my poking fun at someone for buying a Harley. I'll tease them for it, I think it's a bad decision, I think the product is inferior PERSONALLY, but I also wish them nothing but the best (Sincerely). I'll still tease 'em about it though, but it's only meant in a good natured way, sorry if it was taken otherwise.

(I also find it amusing when someone bad mouths Ford, how people stand up and attack GM and/or Dodge, assuming that must be your preferred choice (And vice-versa). Kinda like when ya' attack a Democrat people assume you're a Republican, and the other way around as well, and just as accurate too... )

[big d]

Didn't know tom was asking any one's opinion... Why don't you nay Sayers just call him an idiot outright. You are stopping just short of that. Remember opinions are like @$$holes, everyone has one. Why can't you say congratulations and I wish you much success with your purchase.

My poking fun at Ford is similar to my poking fun at someone for buying a Harley. I'll tease them for it, I think it's a bad decision, I think the product is inferior PERSONALLY, but I also wish them nothing but the best (Sincerely). I'll still tease 'em about it though, but it's only meant in a good natured way, sorry if it was taken otherwise.

(I also find it amusing when someone bad mouths Ford, how people stand up and attack GM and/or Dodge, assuming that must be your preferred choice (And vice-versa). Kinda like when ya' attack a Democrat people assume you're a Republican, and the other way around as well, and just as accurate too... )

I wasn't bad mouthing them, just pointing out a simple fact.  Nothing I typed was negative. Stop reading into what is in print. Dodge being owned by a foreign auto maker is fact, no? And multiple articles I've read said that a large percentage of GM parts are being manufactured over seas. Please explain how that is negative... Facts, just facts. Never said good or bad.


And if ford f150's were so unreliable how can they be the #1 selling pick up truck  for more than 30 years. Along with the honor of holding the title of #1 selling auto for more than 25 years?


Again you apply personal opinion to what is the best vehicle. And I believe T.P. Posted he placed an order on one, re read the thread if confused.

I am just tired of the attacks on someone for having a different opinion other than your's. Why is it a bad decision???  That implies he is not smart enough to make his own decision, in other words an idiot... Again opinion, that is what I am talking about.

[Serk]

Didn't know tom was asking any one's opinion... Why don't you nay Sayers just call him an idiot outright. You are stopping just short of that. Remember opinions are like @$$holes, everyone has one. Why can't you say congratulations and I wish you much success with your purchase.

My poking fun at Ford is similar to my poking fun at someone for buying a Harley. I'll tease them for it, I think it's a bad decision, I think the product is inferior PERSONALLY, but I also wish them nothing but the best (Sincerely). I'll still tease 'em about it though, but it's only meant in a good natured way, sorry if it was taken otherwise.

(I also find it amusing when someone bad mouths Ford, how people stand up and attack GM and/or Dodge, assuming that must be your preferred choice (And vice-versa). Kinda like when ya' attack a Democrat people assume you're a Republican, and the other way around as well, and just as accurate too... )

I wasn't bad mouthing them, just pointing out a simple fact.  Nothing I typed was negative. Stop reading into what is in print. Dodge being owned by a foreign auto maker is fact, no? And multiple articles I've read said that a large percentage of GM parts are being manufactured over seas. Please explain how that is negative... Facts, just facts. Never said good or bad.


And if ford f150's were so unreliable how can they be the #1 selling pick up truck  for more than 30 years. Along with the honor of holding the title of #1 selling auto for more than 25 years?


Again you apply personal opinion to what is the best vehicle. And I believe T.P. Posted he placed an order on one, re read the thread if confused.

I am just tired of the attacks on someone for having a different opinion other than your's. Why is it a bad decision???  That implies he is not smart enough to make his own decision, in other words an idiot... Again opinion, that is what I am talking about.

Big D, you're taking this whole thing too personally... I think Ford's are inferior, I think Harley's are inferior. I think your wife is inferior to my wife. FOR MY PURPOSES. That doesn't mean they are, I'm not saying they're bad, just inferior FOR ME and MY purposes.  I'm not saying you're an idiot for wanting a Ford, or wanting a Harley, or wanting your wife instead of my wife. (And I'm not trying to insult your wife with this, it's an analogy, just pointing out different strokes for different folks...)

(And for what it's worth, I think GM, Dodge/Chrysler, etc are inferior to Fords. I'd consider owning a Ford if they weren't so expensive (For what I was looking for.) I wouldn't own a GM or Chrysler product unless it was given to me (As is the case with the Dodge van in my driveway right now.) That's why I found it amusing that Dodge was being brought up when someone said something negative about Fords.

(One more, I just can't shut up. Being the best selling of something doesn't make that something reliable or a high quality product... For reference - See Harley... )

For those that are buying new F150's, congratulations. May you enjoy it, and may it serve you long and well.

For those that are buying or have bought old F150's, congratulations. May you enjoy it, and may it serve you long and well.

[BF]

The only Chevy's I like where manufuctured from '55 to '71.  They lost me after that. 

And I'd rather push my Ford than own a Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth/Jeep product. 

Pot stirred.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

The only Chevy's I like where manufuctured from '55 to '71.  They lost me after that. 

And I'd rather push my Ford than own a Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth/Jeep product. 

Pot stirred.   

BF, you are coming back more & more every day

[98valk]

The only Chevy's I like where manufuctured from '55 to '71.  They lost me after that. 

And I'd rather push my Ford than own a Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth/Jeep product. 

Pot stirred.   

I had a 79 K20, never had a problem and an 81 camaro, never a problem, gave it to my dad, ran until sold.
but agree don't like GM after the middle '80s

[Patrick]

Well, I've had to push my Ford [ figure of speech, wouldn't start for years]. Never my Dodges.

[big d]

Seek, none of it was taken personally. I was only pointing out that all you spew is opinion not fact but you type it as if it is fact.

Now I am taking it personally since you brought my wife into this you F'ing p.o. Crap. You are not worth knowing.

[T-Bird]

I would own any of them, the technology,engineering,and quality is just about the same in any of them. For a couple of years I did what they called "Dealer Swaps" were dealers will swap cars because they both had buyers for them. My job was to deliver and pick up the cars. The Dealer I worked for, had Chevy, Ford, Nissan, Dodge Chrysler, & Jeep and in those two years I drove just about everything they sold. Big D said it well...different seats for different butts, I drove a $75K
corvette but I liked driving a $12K HHR on longer trips. I have to say a Chevy duramax engine is
great, but a Ford Super Duty drives better. A F150 is a great truck but the bed is too tall to work out of, chevy's are a lot lower for us old farts, and the new dodges are made a lot better than the previous ones. What I'm getting at is, find what appeals to you and get that one.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Man I never realized how serious people can be about trucks