2nd Ebola case. What are we not being told?

[MP]

A health care worker treating the patient who died in TX, has Ebola.

We keep getting told how hard it is to get Ebola.

A heath care worker, who SHOULD be following all the protocols, has come down with the disease.  Yet, they got it.

It just seems we are missing something.  I hope not. I hope we are not being lied to, just so we do not "panic".

MP

[..]

Wonder how many others this person has been in contact with?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-case-confirmed-dalla-health-care-worker-tests-positive-article-1.1971542

[Patrick]

I don't believe anything any government official says today.

[CaribouHunter]

Mainly what we are not being told is that it is also spread in small droplets of water  when patients cough or sneeze and can move hundreds of feet and remain viable.  When these aerosols are breathed by another person, they become infected, and incubation is 14 to 21 days, so they infect everything and everybody they touch, and other people breath in their infected aerosols when they cough and sneeze.  It is similar to EHD in whitetail deer (epizootic hemorrhagic disease) which is also spread by aerosols as well at biting insects called midges.  Mosquitoes are a major cause of distribution of ebola between humans as well.  Same spread as Enterovirus 58 that has now spread to 44 states, and correlates perfectly with the infected and diseased illegal alien children that were distributed all across our country by obamma.  

[Robert]

SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C. Infectivity can be preserved by lyophilisation.

CaribouHunter pretty much confirms what you said.
MODE OF TRANSMISSION: In an outbreak, it is hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected as a result of contact with an infected animal. Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death. Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids (1, 2). Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals, suggesting possible transmission through aerosol droplets. In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated. The importance of this route of transmission is not clear. Poor hygienic conditions can aid the spread of the virus.

http://www.msdsonline.com/resources/msds-resources/free-safety-data-sheet-index/ebola-virus.aspx

I am not surprised at so many occurrences of Ebola in Africa with the thoughts and attitudes and habits that prevail in the area. When HIV was running rampant it was said that if a HIV infected person has sex with a virgin then they would be healed. I know it sounds like a story but Its true, that is why HIV took so long to get under control. Mind sets coupled with dirity conditions make for a very susceptible population.

[MP]

All the above is true.

But how did THIS worker become infected?  They said the worker was covered up, wearing gear.  If someone following protocol, with sanitation, got infected, how is the average person on the street going to be protected?

I am not talking Africa.  I understand unsanitary conditions, and primitive medical facilities is a primary factor. But here.  It just seems that something else MUST be going on in transmission.  I hope this is just a fluke, and will not happen again.

I have learned over the last number of years that our government, from the President on down, has no problem telling us bald faced lies to suit their agenda.  So, now, I do NOT TRUST what I am being told.  Experience tells me there is a good chance they are lying to us. I pray they are not.

MP

[Robert]

MP
Now you are catching on, Keep the public calm even if it kills a few. Don't tell them they can catch it by aresol transmission that would create a panic. Don't seal the boards to those from Liberia and dont stop taking people in from Liberia who are US citizens because we can handle the diseases. Its ok till its not ok and if there is fall out, OH WELL! That along with the boarders are ok, the economy is improving and a myriad of other lies that have been told. This passage of scripture really seems to fit the current admin in Washington.

Joh_8:44  "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[..]

All the above is true.

But how did THIS worker become infected?  They said the worker was covered up, wearing gear.  If someone following protocol, with sanitation, got infected, how is the average person on the street going to be protected?

I am not talking Africa.  I understand unsanitary conditions, and primitive medical facilities is a primary factor. But here.  It just seems that something else MUST be going on in transmission.  I hope this is just a fluke, and will not happen again.

I have learned over the last number of years that our government, from the President on down, has no problem telling us bald faced lies to suit their agenda.  So, now, I do NOT TRUST what I am being told.  Experience tells me there is a good chance they are lying to us. I pray they are not.

MP

I read the infected nurse in Spain may have touched her bare face with the gloves she was wearing whilst removing protective gear,. The gear she had worn whilst treating an Ebola patient.

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"However, the virus persisted in breast milk for 15 days after the patient recovered, and in semen for another 40 days, the study found. This finding, in particular, raises concern that Ebola could be transmitted from mother to baby through nursing and from a man to his partner during sexual intercourse -- even after the patient has recovered, no longer exhibits symptoms, and the virus is undetectable in their blood tests.

"It is possible that the mammary gland, like the gonads and chambers of the eye, is an immunologically protected site in which clearance of virus is delayed," the authors write in their study.

Other research backs up the assertion that the virus is shed at a much slower rate in semen than other bodily fluids. According to the World Health Organization, in one case a lab worker who contracted Ebola on the job and recovered was found to have traces of the virus in his semen 61 days after the initial infection."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-lab-samples-yield-questions-as-well-as-answers/

[..]

We have sent thousands of troops to Ebola countries to help. Troops with minimal training.

How f'in stupid is that.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/16/us-sending-3000-troops-to-liberia-to-battle-ebola.html

We are checking arrivals at our airports. Bit f'in late don't ya think.

I heard a prat on the radio saying they would be checked before arriving on American soil. Another left wing idiot using semantics to try to absolve the liar in chiefs assertion that Ebola WAS UNLIKELY IN THE USA.

[..]

This along with the kids getting/dying from entovirus - which has suddenly taken a news step back.

No one has made the public link between the nationwide eruption of this coinciding with the illegal immigrant deluge that the liar in chief and the minions spread across ALL the USA.

[Master Blaster]

Not only that, but lets send a few thousand untrained troopies over there to become carriers.  Can anyone see why this wont work??   Step back and take the broad view, this is right in ine  with the take over of the health system.  Every facet of our country is under assault by this president and his minions.  Millions of new regulations to stymie business, departments of government used as attack dogs to go after political enemies and those that don't conform to the agenda, the wholesale reshaping of our military, the takeover of our educational system and the dumbing down of our future.  One crisis after another, and the continual stonewalling, lying, cover ups, and misdirection probably has nothing to do with it.  Remember the mantra, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

[MP]

One general stated a couple days ago that we better get our southern border beefed up.  He said what happens when, not if, Ebola hits in South America and Mexico?  They have a lot of poor sanitation areas, with poor health care for the poor.

He said that a LOT, i.e. MILLIONS more, will head north, to cross into the United States, where we GUARANTEE them free health care!

Just think how Ebola will spread with thousands in gyms, etc waiting!  Look at the pics from earlier in the year, with thousands jammed together!  OUCH!

Then, the US govt ships the kids all over the US!

MP

[Patrick]

I'd hate to hear of one of our soldiers getting the virus, but, when it happens, that may be what it takes to impeach our village idiot.

[BF]

Nothing to see here.

Really hard to catch.

Stand by for another news briefing.

Stay calm.

Keep moving along

Reaaly hard to catch.

Nothing to see here.

Really hard to catch.

[fudgie]

Ebola was found in 1976. 38 yrs to get here. Thats pretty good if I do say so myself. 

[..]

Ebola was found in 1976. 38 yrs to get here. Thats pretty good if I do say so myself.  

It certainly is.

If only one man hadn't lied!!!

I do hope that the Ebola countries have been told that Duncan died in the USA to dissuade others from making the attempt to fly here to be treated.

[..]

Let's hope that those who have a list of Bush blames add Ebola in the USA to the liar in chiefs list of f ups.

[..]

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/warning/ebola-guinea

In this link it states

"■Tell the doctor about your recent travel and your symptoms before you go to the doctor's office or hospital. Advance notice will help the doctor care for you and protect other people who may be in the doctor's office or hospital."

Why go to the Dr's office???? F'in stupid again.

avoid public transportation.

Weren't we just told public transportation was OK.

Has this updated guide been disseminated to the public at large???

[..]

Where's the Surgeon General? See any statements from him/her?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789464/surgeon-general-missing-action-ebola-patient-america-dies.html

It was the CDC guy who said " nation's top doctors 'know how to stop Ebola spreading in hospitals. "

[Serk]

Where's the Surgeon General? See any statements from him/her?

We don't have one.

MSNBC and States United Blame NRA for Ebola Crisis

[..]

And who exactly controls the Senate right now?

[Serk]

And who exactly controls the Senate right now?

Not to mention if the current occupant of the presidency would just nominate a non-extremist for Attorney General that person would sail through and be nominated with no issues...

[..]

And who exactly controls the Senate right now?

Not to mention if the current occupant of the presidency would just nominate a non-extremist for Attorney General that person would sail through and be nominated with no issues...

The willingly ignorant will continue to blame those they dind't vote for. And vote for the same bunch of plonkers again.

[Big Al of Tennessee]

Surgeon General,,,Reason you never see her she is a Short, Fat, Black Woman.

Michelle does not think her McDonalds but is fat.

Fatness is not in, General in hiding.

The one thing the Government will never do,,,,,,,,,,,,TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

Fat Girl is out.

Vivik Murthy is the nominee, and won't be confirmed.

Anti Gun, Pro Obama Care Advocacy Group. And he is not exp. enough. Too Young.

[Big Al of Tennessee]

Where's the Surgeon General? See any statements from him/her?

We don't have one.

MSNBC and States United Blame NRA for Ebola Crisis

Damn NRA, I am going to quit sending them money. NOT.  MSNBC is on the absurd rant once again.

[Patrick]

The NRA and senate cowardice ?!     Ahahahahaha !


msnbc will do, and say anything, no wonder their rating is in the toilet. 

[BF]

Where's the Surgeon General? See any statements from him/her?

We don't have one.

MSNBC and States United Blame NRA for Ebola Crisis

Damn NRA, I am going to quit sending them money. NOT.  MSNBC is on the absurd rant once again.

As absurd as MSNBC is, the sad truth is that the lemmings on the left will slurp it up and can't wait to believe that crap.  

[..]

He lied, he lied, he lied.

We'll never know what treatment he could have received in Liberia if he hadn't wasted valuable time getting on a flight to the USA.

And now his family say he didn't receive adequate treatment here in the USA!

It's possible that he may KILL another because he lied and the nurse here that helped treat him became infected.

Well f the family if that's all the gratitude they have..

Am I annoyed. Yes.

Am I writing the opinions of others? I hope so.

If not oh well I really don't give a flying f.

[old2soon]

Seems to me as if the nails are being hammered into our coffins. I'm not all that worried about me-I'm NOT giving up but I have children and grand children I do worry about. The FACT that deception central is STILL and CONTINUES to lie should surprise NO ONE with half a brain. I did ask a couple of weeks ago WHY he was brought here in the first place. Now our Troops are going to help "fight" this virus!  Tween isis and ebola they tryin to do us in-AMERICANS. RIDE SAFE.

[Rams]

As I've stated previously, this virus has the capacity to change our world as we know it.   

I see this virus a a potential Pandemic that will rock this planet.

[Robert]

IF and I say IF this spreads welcome to the end of the US as we know it. Marshal law will be enacted and what about all those FEMA camps. Is this what they are for, I know it sounds kind of crazy but maybe just not too crazy not to be true? Everything was put into place for a continuation of government in a case, maybe like this, that is sounding like a movie script of the end of the world as we know it. Why has not our government acted to stop this kind of thing that is happening here? Intentional or just the usual lack of good management. Time will tell. We saw the collapse of the economy when quite a few said it would not happen. No one stopped the warning signs that were seen by many and we were left with bailouts to the upper classes and a less than strong economy. Is this a reenactment of the same thing on a disease level rather than economic? What happened to the experimental Ebola drug, that the doctor took and is still alive? Why have they not made it available to anyone else? This is exactly what the movie scripts all have been about and what FEMA and the government have prepared for. Tin hat or conspiracy, it sure seems to fit.

[cookiedough]

let's just hope and pray that nurse did not follow protocol and got infected that way and the idiots in charge are NOT lying to us about how it spread just to keep the public calm.

[czuch]

Just listen to the Doctor, General, President. He is the worlds smartest man.
Get ready for the apocalypse.

[Serk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791089/first-picture-devoted-texas-nurse-fighting-life-catching-ebola-treating-man-brought-dreaded-virus-america-beloved-dog-s-quarantine.html

Not that this matters, and I'll admit this says something about me, possibly something bad, but I'll admit it... The first thought that shot through my very male brain was "Holy crap, she's HOT!"

[..]

Temperature screenings at airports.

Is everyone with a slight temp going to be held in quarantine?

Only if they've come from an Ebola country?

What happens if they stopped off in a European country for a week or two before continuing their flight to the USA.

Ebola can take up to 21 days to become infectious.


What exactly is "the protocol"? You know, the protocol the nurse in Dallas broke? No one has mentioned any detail about that.

Is this a protocol that could be used by general population contacts with an Ebola carrier?

[..]

The left is conveniently ignoring that it's the filthy capitalist pharma companies that will produce enough medicine to stop Ebola in its tracks.

The CDC will not be producing anything apart from protocols.

[cookiedough]

What exactly is "the protocol"? You know, the protocol the nurse in Dallas broke? No one has mentioned any detail about that.

Is this a protocol that could be used by general population contacts with an Ebola carrier?

word is out she touched her face after treating him with the gloves she had on?  Or so I thought I heard that on the news.  Accidents do happen just hoping it is the truth and is a single one time accident is all.

[Novavalker]

I think we might have a vaccine in the works.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/lifestyle/archives/2014/10/20141013-121636.html

[Patrick]

NIH is trying to cover its back side regarding lack of ebola research by blaming funding cuts from the republicans.
What a crock !
The fundings haven't really been cut. The congress has been trying to get the priorities of this agency under control. This is just another agency thats out of control. They are spending millions yearly on crap like figuring out why over weight lesbians tend to be alcoholic or how cocaine affects the motor skills and aggressiveness on monkeys, etc. This list goes on and on.
We keep finding more each day about just how crazy our government has become.