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Speed kills.

Started by Rams, Sun 09, Nov 2014, 20:50:56

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Rams

Mother releases hard hitting footage of her Son's motercycle death to raise awareness..

God speed brother!


Please take the time to watch this whole video, start to finish.. WARNING: Video contains footage that some viewers may find distressing

http://www.driftspec.org/news/mother-releases-hard-hitting-footage-of-her-sons-motercycle-death-to-raise-awareness-god-speed-brother


I think this video speaks for itself.
VRCC# 29981
Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.

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When applied at the wrong time indeed speed does kill.

So far I've been able to apply speed at the right time.

Long may I do so.  :cooldude:

mike4sho

Very sad.  Made me think about my crash.  Gotta slow down, may have saved his life.
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cookiedough

that video shows you should not speed nor pass at such speeds when traffic is all around.

If going to go 80+ mph or more,  do it where NO cars are on a road that doesn't have cross traffic.  Even if I saw a car coming at me on a 2 lane rural road with no intersections,  I'd slow down to below 65mph just in case, you never know. 

I outgrew the need for speed in my early 20's only been over 100 mph 3 times in my life and 2 of them were in cars, only once on a cycle.  Was enough for me.   I'd feel comfortable going say 115-120 mph on my Valkyrie I/S., but why?

Unless in a high performance sports car designed for it with proper tires, etc., on a closed course,  not worth the risk of doing 100mph plus with any others on any road ever.  Even driving near 20 hours from WI to Alabama/Florida Gulf shores area 2 years ago,  I never drove over 83 mph ever, mostly 77-79 mph is all in our V6 SUV. I found out the wind resistance, etc. at say 82 mph set at cruise vs. say 77 mph dropped my mpg from near 28.5 avg mpg to only 26 mpg.   Fast enough for me, although that last 2 hours driving home thru boring IL was driving me stir crazy since drove straight home 18 hours with just rest stops/fast food places is all didn't want to spend a night in southern IL.  By the way, it takes around 8 hours to go from north to south of the state of IL, pretty boring. 

Rams

For me, the whole point of the video is judgment. both good and bad.

Who of us could honestly state that they've never felt the Need for Speed? 

It's thrilling and does get the adrenaline up and the blood flowing.   It's fun.

But, whether you're on a bike or in a cage, bad judgment will get you and others killed.

Way too many folks are trying to take me out, riding like an idiot only increases their chances of success.     Have fun but, ride smart.
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f6john

    Wow, that was fast, from recognition to laying on the ground.   :'(  But we all know speed doesn't kill, it's the sudden stop that takes us out.

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1)  .....Im invisible


2) .....Intersections are dangerous as hell


3) .....left hand turns will kill you


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Skinhead

If he was going 97 mph, (don't know the speed limit where he was) i can't even hold the cage driver responsible.  At that speed in say a 55 mph zone, if you check traffic in both directions, the MC could not be there one moment, so you proceed, but when you proceed, there he is, too late for either to react.  Hopefully, it was painless and quick for him.  RIP.

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pitbull

That crash happened around 25 miles from my house, I've travelled that road many times.

The speed limit is 60 mph and I believe that the couple in the car were Dutch and on holiday/vacation in  the area. The driver of the car was charged.

Rams

Quote from: pitbull on Mon 10, Nov 2014, 12:31:09
That crash happened around 25 miles from my house, I've travelled that road many times.

The speed limit is 60 mph and I believe that the couple in the car were Dutch and on holiday/vacation in  the area. The driver of the car was charged.


Seriously?   Well, I honestly don't know how fast the rider was traveling but, it appears to be significantly faster than everyone else traveling his direction which leads me to believe he was greatly exceeding the speed limit.   Interesting............................
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pitbull

Quote from: Rams on Mon 10, Nov 2014, 12:35:26
Quote from: pitbull on Mon 10, Nov 2014, 12:31:09
That crash happened around 25 miles from my house, I've travelled that road many times.

The speed limit is 60 mph and I believe that the couple in the car were Dutch and on holiday/vacation in  the area. The driver of the car was charged.


Seriously?   Well, I honestly don't know how fast the rider was traveling but, it appears to be significantly faster than everyone else traveling his direction which leads me to believe he was greatly exceeding the speed limit.   Interesting............................

They reckon he was going in excess of 97mph.

Our UK road laws seem quite hard compared to the USA, because the driver crossed into the bikers path, he was at fault, no matter what the speed of the biker.

On a UK driving licence we have a points system, if you reach 12 points (6 if your licence is less than two years old) you will be banned from driving.
If you get seen using a cell phone you will receive 3 points and a £60 (95$) fine, same if you are seen not wearing your seatbelt.

The driver in the car that pulled across the biker would have been charged with some like "driving without due care and attention" which carries 6-12 points and a fine determined by a court.
If you get caught speeding over 100mph, 99% of the time you will get a 3 month driving ban.

We are quite hot on drink driving too, get caught over the limit and you'll get a minimum 18 month driving ban and a several hundred fine.
The process is quick too, get caught and within a couple of days you're in front of a judge, immediate ban.
Drive while banned, you're arrested and banned for a much longer period. Get caught again and you're on ya way to Her Majesties Hotel for at least 3 months.

Rams

Interesting.

To the best of my knowledge, in the US a driver/rider owns the lane they are in and anyone crossing that lane would be at fault with the exception of, if the lane crosser can prove the person they turned in front of was driving in an erratic manner or excessively speeding.   In both cases, the lane owner must be excessively erratic or, really rolling the throttle.   That's hard to prove but with the biker's own helmet cam showing his actions, I would have thought that would have had some effect on the charges.   

That's what I get for thinking.  {{{shrug}}}
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bigguy

I know the law's the law, but from a moral standpoint, I don't fault the car driver. Something as small as a motorcycle closing at the speed we saw on the camera has to have just appeared out of nowhere to the driver. I just don't think it's reasonable to expect that driver to have seen something as small as a motorcycle at the distance it was when he first pulled into that lane. To say nothing of expecting him to be closing as fast as he was.
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mrider

speed has always killed and always will just do what you feel is right for you and screw the rest!!

..

Factor in the driver was driving on the "wrong - English" side of the road to what he was used to and he may have "seen" the bike as being on the "right -Dutch" side of the road.

Bike was going too darn fast as we saw. Everyone suffered.  :(

Pete

it is usually not speed but stupidity that kills, yours, theirs or both.

Lil D

That kind of speed belongs on a race track. Poor decision by motorcyclist. Car would struggle to judge/anticipate that. All suffer...... :'(
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scooperhsd

Speed doesn't kill, in and of itself. It's unexpected sudden stops (high acceleration stops) that kill.

That said - I've never been above 85 on the public roads / interstates in/on any vehicle - I usually keep my speed within 5-10 mph above  the posted limit (and slower when conditions warrant). It's simply not safe in America to engage in behavior of that much excessive speed.

Mr Whiskey

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Quote from: pitbull on Mon 10, Nov 2014, 13:41:52


They reckon he was going in excess of 97mph.

Our UK road laws seem quite hard compared to the USA, because the driver crossed into the bikers path, he was at fault, no matter what the speed of the biker.

On a UK driving licence we have a points system, if you reach 12 points (6 if your licence is less than two years old) you will be banned from driving.
If you get seen using a cell phone you will receive 3 points and a £60 (95$) fine, same if you are seen not wearing your seatbelt.

The driver in the car that pulled across the biker would have been charged with some like "driving without due care and attention" which carries 6-12 points and a fine determined by a court.
If you get caught speeding over 100mph, 99% of the time you will get a 3 month driving ban.

We are quite hot on drink driving too, get caught over the limit and you'll get a minimum 18 month driving ban and a several hundred fine.
The process is quick too, get caught and within a couple of days you're in front of a judge, immediate ban.
Drive while banned, you're arrested and banned for a much longer period. Get caught again and you're on ya way to Her Majesties Hotel for at least 3 months.

That's the way it ought to be here but we've legislated our right to be morons behind the wheel.
You don't have to pay attention when you drive in America today because there are no real consequences to your actions.
I had a good friend who died riding as a passenger in someones car when they were runnin' from the law. Driver never saw a day in jail.
Got another that's had at least 15 DUI's & never done more than 6 months behind bars.
I'm sorry, but when you spare the rod, you spoil the child.
We no longer have to "drive with due care and attention", because for the most part we can get away with being clueless.
Sad really, makes me afraid for my kids safety.
Thanks for posting this vid, (it reminded me I'm not supposed to be an idiot) & God Bless this young mans parents. It takes guts to do the right thing & most of the time it's d*** hard!
Peace, Whiskey.
Peace, Whiskey.