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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« on: December 20, 2014, 06:47:21 PM »

Funny how quickly (maybe slowly) the best laid plans get sidetracked. I went out to the shop this afternoon with the intention of installing the new mainspring and firing pin which arrived today in the old 1895 Stevens Favorite I'm rebuilding. It has a "stevens pope" barrel and is our planned rife for the family shoot next year. Then when I was done I hoped to put together an old Iver Johnson revolver a customer is waiting on.

But... When I got out there I realized I should make an "enfield firing pin wrench" while I have an Enfield in the shop so I grabbed some scrap 4140, fired up the lathe, then the mill and then the welder and did so. While doing this I was reminded that I really need to make a longer wrench for the small 3 jaw chuck I put in the 4 jaw chuck for working with small stock in the big lathes. So, this time I found a piece of "unknown" scrap, used the lathe, mill and welder again and got er done.

However, now it's hours later, and I still don't have the original jobs I set out to do done. Not only that, but I have an Enfield rifle and bolt on my bench waiting to be put back together.  Grin

I guess that's just the nature of doing this kind of work. Same thing frequently happens at the day job. I planned on finishing some electrical projects at work this past week, and got a couple done. Then had to set them aside to tear-down the spindle gearbox on a large, old manual lathe with some sheared gear teeth. I've got the easy part of that job. Son Andy has to do the cad/cam drawings and program the cnc lathes and EDM machine to make the new gears. That is way over my head.

First pic is the enfield firing pin being supported by the above mentioned 3 jaw chuck. 2nd pic is the wrench I built to remove/install these firing pins. 3rd pic is the 3 jaw chuck with the new wrench I made for it with the old 3 jaw wrench preventing it from rolling off the parts washer. The firing pin and firing pin wrench are also there. 4th pic is, perhaps, a better pic of the firing pin wrench.



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weeder
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 07:22:01 PM »

I haven't done what our doin lately .    Looks like a very worthwhile hobby .     Im sure You can find  others in the gunsmithing web for tips.

ride safe-W
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2014, 07:28:36 PM »

Thanks for sharing that Mike.

I have three SMLEs that shoot just fine (with ancient corrosive 303 made well before I was born LOL).  

But I suspect the Enfield you are referring to is a 1917 in 30.06.

I'd sure like a tour of that shop someday (and to make your acquaintance).

On the rare occasion I work on something that doesn't fit in a Tipton rifle vice.... it rolls all over my bench.  Grin

If you're ever in need of some small work, I have a parts Hi Power (half Ingles/half Argentine) that worked flawlessly right up until it didn't.  I have about exhausted my limited skills with it.  
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art
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2014, 07:39:18 PM »

There's always more work for a good machinist. From a retired machinist for 50 years.
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2014, 07:44:52 PM »

The Enfield is a NO 1, MK 3 in .303 which a customer brought in. He stopped shooting it 20 years ago when he started having trouble with it, but has decided he wants to take it hog hunting next month. The "V" spring fell out when I removed the stock and I'm hoping that and being dirty was all that was wrong with it. Haven't test fired it yet though so I can't say for sure. Just got the ammo in Friday.

I'd be glad to give you a tour, it's a very small shop and wouldn't take long even as long winded as I am.   Wink

I'd also be glad to look at that Hi Power for you. I no longer have mine and miss handling them. Just let me know, you can ship it directly to me since I'm an FFl holder and I can ship it directly back to you as long as your state doesn't have any laws prohibiting such. I really do enjoy this work. Slow rust bluing firearms and helping people keep their family heirlooms alive is pretty enjoyable.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2014, 09:55:42 PM »

Ah, so it is an SMLE.  You may already know this, but because the ammo of the day was all cordite powered and corrosive as hell, the rifling in the bbls is much deeper than any other rifles I've ever seen.  I had to clean those rifles twice every time they were fired.  You'd think once was enough, but a week later the bore was still dirty.  I used to walk thru the Fed Ord warehouse in El Monte CA (now long gone) looking at long racks of them, and some had no rifling left at all. 

My WWII No4 Mk1 is a mint rifle with all matching numbers, including the scabbard and blade bayonet.  One of the fastest bolt guns ever made. 

I will PM you on the Hi Power after the holidays Mike.  Thanks.
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2014, 11:06:06 PM »

I didn't know that Jess. I noticed the extra deep rifling but I didn't know the reason for it. They seem like well built rifles. The bolt lugs are unusual, at least to me, as is the feel of the bolt as it closes against and opens with the spring. Actually, pretty much everything about these rifles seems pretty unique to me. This is the first one I've had in the shop.

Art, I will never be able to call myself a machinist. I'd never ran a lathe or mill until around 3 years ago. My youngest son and I own 3 manual lathes and a mill now and I can make some parts and tools with them but the more I learn about machining, the more I realize that at 57, I can never run these machines long enough to call myself a machinist.

I run the maintenance dept., actually, I am the maintenance department/electrician at a medium size, aerospace oriented machine shop. There are some incredibly talented machinists and engineers there including my youngest son and business partner who is the process engineer. I'm the "dirt under the nails" Forest Gump of the plant compared to my brain-E-ack co-workers and son. I do enjoy the challenge of keeping things running there. Seeing the insane parts they make from exotic metals just makes it all the more fun.

To top it off, we also make custom air-ride suspensions and air shifters for motorcycles which I've recently had the pleasure of doing a little assembly work on. Last Tuesday evening, I worked late doing so. It seemed kind of funny to me, I had to take a night off from repairing and shooting firearms so I could help with custom motorcycle parts. It was like I'd died and went to guy heaven. We've got custom bikes in the front office and a hanger full of airplanes between the lathe and mill departments. I largely started my shop as a way to escape from my old day job and to do what I could to help people keep their firearms operating. Now, I have escaped from my old job, enjoy my new job and have the shop. Of course, I'm makin' less money than I used to and every spare dime I've got goes into stuff for the shop but the sacrifice seems more than worth it so far.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2014, 08:57:39 AM »

The Brit SMLEs bolt lugs are in the rear of receiver instead of the front (just behind the chamber) like all classic Mausers (03s, Rem700s, Rug77s, Win70s, and most others).  It should make a looser and less accurate lockup (and rifle) (with less strength), but it worked fine and was accurate and made it easier to throw the bolt.  And the Enfield cocks on closing the bolt rather than on opening (like Mauser), so there is less drag throwing the bolt from that as well.  And the rear-mounted lugs put the bolt closer to the shooter's hand (over the trigger) making it quicker to operate than traditional Mauser design.  And it came with a 10 rd magazine (reloaded with mags or topped up with strippers), rather than a 5-shot internal mag with only stripper clips.

A world record for aimed bolt-action fire was set in 1914 by a musketry instructor in the British Army—Sergeant Instructor Snoxall—who placed 38 rounds into a 12-inch-wide target at 300 yards in one minute.  It may still stand.

They were accurate enough to make into sniper rifles.

  
Some rifleman once wrote that of the WWII bolt guns, the German's '98 was the best hunting rifle, the American's '03 was the best target rifle, and the Brit's Lee Enfield was the best battle rifle.  

(The Arisaka's and Mosin–Nagant's were not mentioned.)
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2014, 09:00:48 AM »

Kinda back to the OP, I like the little 'swinging blocks'. They're neat little critters and fun to shoot.
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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2014, 07:33:19 PM »

Kinda back to the OP, I like the little 'swinging blocks'. They're neat little critters and fun to shoot.
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