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Started by dreamaker, Tue 30, Dec 2014, 11:22:18

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dreamaker

I am not a sports guy and I have never been to a Collage football game, now when students go to the games do they have to pay admission or pay to get in? Trying to figure something out.

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Quote from: dreamaker on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 11:22:18
I am not a sports guy and I have never been to a Collage football game, now when students go to the games do they have to pay admission or pay to get in? Trying to figure something out.

I'm think'n a student ID will get a student in if they are attending the home field college.   As I remember, that is included in their tuition fees.    I don't have any kids in college now but, it was that way a few years ago.   
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Just graduated last year and all games were free for students at Southern Illinois University for all sporting events.
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At the Alabama games students must pay.

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At FSU we paid admission and that was before Bobby Bowden. Some baseball games were free to students and they were the always in the playoffs back then.  :cooldude:
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Must be a SEC thang.  University of Arkansas sells tix to students but at a reduced fee.
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So far as I know, all the big U's charge for every student ticket (football).  Though it is a reduced rate, unavailable to anyone else, and the student section is always in one entire end zone (bottom to top) (IE the cheap seats... also the rowdy seats, most alumni don't like to sit there  ;D).  

At my smaller U's, it was always free.  We sucked so bad attendance was terrible anyway, so charging anything would have been counterproductive (and funny).  If I recall, we only won one game in three years in undergrad (Mid American Conf.) (and they're just as good today, 40 years later   ;D)

I spent three years sitting in the MI wolverines student section, 15 miles down the road from my school.  From what I can remember I had a whale of a good time (Boonsfarm Apple wine was really big in those years; at the end of each quarter, a thousand shiny green bottles were passed up to the top of the BigHouse and lined up on the top edge).  A lot of hemp was burned as well.  Great days.  

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dreamaker

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NICE SHOT!!!!!

Here is the deal! this is what s bouncing around my head. OK!! Understand I know zip about foot ball, I am from Mich, on TV they all over this guy Jim H***, I guess new coach for Mich. From what I understand they are going to give him 48 Million over time.
Am I OK so far, now correct me if I am wrong.  Now In Mich., based on my info., to go to Collage or University, it costs ungodly amount of money, that they charge, so when a student with no scholarship graduates, they are deep in debt. So now if they go to a game, it costs them some more cash.

So based on my logic they are going to have to come up with 48 Million to pay this guy, so am I to assume that the outrageous costs for education  the students pay,is to pay that coach. To me the whole point to going to any school is to expand and better myself, not to party, not to pay stupid amounts of money to people that don't benefit the students as a whole.

Willow

Quote from: dreamaker on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 14:59:55
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Am I OK so far, now correct me if I am wrong.  Now In Mich., based on my info., to go to Collage or University, it costs ungodly amount of money, that they charge, so when a student with no scholarship graduates, they are deep in debt. So now if they go to a game, it costs them some more cash.

So based on my logic they are going to have to come up with 48 Million to pay this guy, so am I to assume that the outrageous costs for education  the students pay,is to pay that coach. To me the whole point to going to any school is to expand and better myself, not to party, not to pay stupid amounts of money to people that don't benefit the students as a whole.

I'm pretty sure there are no major universities that use tuition money to pay for their athletics.  College athletics, such as football, tend to get their funding through income from the events themselves and through alumni donations.   

dreamaker

Quote from: Willow on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 15:36:03
Quote from: dreamaker on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 14:59:55
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Am I OK so far, now correct me if I am wrong.  Now In Mich., based on my info., to go to Collage or University, it costs ungodly amount of money, that they charge, so when a student with no scholarship graduates, they are deep in debt. So now if they go to a game, it costs them some more cash.

So based on my logic they are going to have to come up with 48 Million to pay this guy, so am I to assume that the outrageous costs for education  the students pay,is to pay that coach. To me the whole point to going to any school is to expand and better myself, not to party, not to pay stupid amounts of money to people that don't benefit the students as a whole.

I'm pretty sure there are no major universities that use tuition money to pay for their athletics.  College athletics, such as football, tend to get their funding through income from the events themselves and through alumni donations.   

OK, you got tuition, then you pay per credit, correct. All that money the institution gets, where does it go and who or how do they payout that 48Mil. to that coach.  Now that is one University, I am talking about. Now multiply that, by all the ones across the nation, and that is a whole lot of cash to jockey around. I have no doubt what you are saying is correct, but I get the feeling that is only on paper. Like our taxes, they put in to a general fund and they call it the gov. money. I don't know, it baffles me.

Romeo

I am a big U-M football fan. My daughter earned an engineering degree there. Like you said, it was not, is not cheap. As far as paying for Mr. Harbaugh to return to his alma mater to coach, he does not come cheaply either. There is a certain alum, name of Steven Ross, the business school is named after him. The rumor is he donated $4,000,000 to coach Harbaugh's wife's charitable foundation. These folks operate in a different world they you and I. I believe Willow is correct when he states funding for the athletic department comes from money made at the games, augmented my alumni donations.
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dreamaker

Seems like a lot of money floating around, to me the 48 mil. would be better spent on education than greasing his pocket. Believe me, I do understand that other plateau you are speak of. I did not know it existed, till I worked around them. Such a shame that students and parents always get railed.

Jess from VA

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Not only does BIG UNIVERSITY football pay for all football expenses (including the coach), but it pays for the lion's share of most other collegiate sports, and their scholarships.  I would suppose MENS NCAA basketball at big U's is also is a moneymaker, but not like football (The UofM Bighouse fills to a capacity of around 115,000 seats for virtually every game, Chrysler Arena (BBall), holds 13, 700, but of course there are a lot more home games per season).  And every Bowl game earns the U in the game big money (winner or loser), and the biggest Bowl games pay huge money (though a share of it goes by rule to every school (football program) in the Conference; ie Big 10, etc).  Consistent big bowl teams are millions ahead of their competition, and one big reason they remain consistent big bowl teams (as well as recruiting).  

And, to my knowledge, though forced (under Fed law) to offer all kinds of organized Women's Varsity sports (and scholarships to those teams), none of them operate in the black.  They all operate at a loss, and men's football pays most or all of the losses.  (Thank the good Lord we do not have women's varsity football)

Tuition is ridiculous at nearly all universities everywhere, but that money goes to facilities, administration salaries, and teachers (and their unions).  Most big U's are run and managed by committed socialists (just like Govt), who are all well known for their tax big and spend big philosophy.

At the BIG Universities, football is a money maker, not a drain. And consistently great football universities attract better teachers, students and private donors as a result of prestige (as well as good academics).  It no doubt is a drain at many small schools (and many football programs have been terminated accordingly)

College football is BIG BUSINESS.... and leads (for thousands) right to the even bigger money of pro football.

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Quote from: Jess from VA on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 17:56:13
Not only does BIG UNIVERSITY football pay for all football expenses (including the coach), but it pays for the lion's share of most other collegiate sports, and their scholarships.  I would suppose MENS NCAA basketball at big U's is also is a moneymaker, but not like football (The UofM Bighouse fills to a capacity of around 115,000 seats for virtually every game, Chrysler Arena (BBall), holds 13, 700, but of course there are a lot more home games per season).  And every Bowl game earns the U in the game big money (winner or loser), and the biggest Bowl games pay huge money (though a share of it goes by rule to every school (football program) in the Conference; ie Big 10, etc).  Consistent big bowl teams are millions ahead of their competition, and one big reason they remain consistent big bowl teams (as well as recruiting).  

And, to my knowledge, though forced (under Fed law) to offer all kinds of organized Women's Varsity sports (and scholarships to those teams), none of them operate in the black.  They all operate at a loss, and men's football pays most or all of the losses.  (Thank the good Lord we do not have women's varsity football)

Tuition is ridiculous at nearly all universities everywhere, but that money goes to facilities, administration salaries, and teachers (and their unions).  Most big U's are run and managed by committed socialists (just like Govt), who are all well known for their tax big and spend big philosophy.

At the BIG Universities, football is a money maker, not a drain. And consistently great football universities attract better teachers, students and private donors as a result of prestige (as well as good academics).  It no doubt is a drain at many small schools (and many football programs have been terminated accordingly)

College football is BIG BUSINESS.... and leads (for thousands) right to the even bigger money of pro football.

:coolsmiley: I believe his question was about collages of feet and balls.

Willow

Quote from: meathead on Tue 30, Dec 2014, 20:39:53
:coolsmiley: I believe his question was about collages of feet and balls.

Oh! Oh!  Ugly visual!  :o

johnhunter44

When I attended Clemson, we paid a small athletic fee when we paid our tuition.  We could then pick up a free student ticket to any game.  We could buy a second ticket at reduced rates.

dreamaker

I think my brain, is like a tin can with one marble in it. You know!! Anyway, years back I use to do work for our legal dept., so I use to talk to our corporate attorneys, like here, I ask a thousand questions. I don't recall the discussion, but one thing I remembered they told me. That Collages, University and hospitals, are non-profit organizations and legally do not have to open their books to "Anyone". I don't know if that is true or not, but I never heard anyone doing audits on them.