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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 01:32:16 PM » |
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Of course I believe in freedoms of speech and press.
The press, who of course champion a free press, likes to belittle (and curse) the freedom to keep and bear arms.
The pen is said to be mightier than the sword, but some day press rooms may eventually come around to the conclusion that a good guy with a gun is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is not really a bad idea at all. Throwing pencils at AKs is nice PC publicity, but poor operational security.
This would be so much better of a story if the lunatic murderers had been gunned down dead at the door.
If you're going to throw stones at the lunatics (a splendid idea), your glass house better be bulletproof.
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At least our president is calling those dickheads terrorists. Thats a change for him.
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Craps gettin old, Kiddies.
Theres been some chatter on the talkers about what time its coming to.
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Britman I looked at the link and the cartoons that were drawn and was impressed by the talent and skill but I also noticed no one had drawn a cartoon about Mohammad ??? That was the original problem not the cartoons against Muslim extremist. Do you think they missed the point or were afraid or just vented. I would be temped to draw Mohammed in all kinds of compromising positions that to me would be a more of a way to to say GTH with you. Actually our president said The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" But in fairness he did not say it in only relation to Muslims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6uZFSj_ueMWASHINGTON — When President Obama went before cameras at the White House on Tuesday, he said he knew nothing more about who carried out the deadly bombings in Boston than he did the day before. But he knew enough to call them an “act of terrorism.” Act of terrorism, not Muslim terroists Obama won't call Paris attack 'Islamic' Attackers shouted 'the prophet has been avenged,' 'Allahu akbar' Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/obama-unsure-terrorism-behind-paris-attack/#osL5U6CTpYJLd3oW.99 |
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Act of terrorism, not Muslim terroists
Obama won't call Paris attack 'Islamic'
Attackers shouted 'the prophet has been avenged,' 'Allahu akbar'
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Britman I looked at the link and the cartoons that were drawn and was impressed by the talent and skill but I also noticed no one had drawn a cartoon about Mohammad ??? That was the original problem not the cartoons against Muslim extremist. Do you think they missed the point or were afraid or just vented. I would be temped to draw Mohammed in all kinds of compromising positions that to me would be a more of a way to to say GTH with you. Actually our president said The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" But in fairness he did not say it in only relation to Muslims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6uZFSj_ueMWASHINGTON — When President Obama went before cameras at the White House on Tuesday, he said he knew nothing more about who carried out the deadly bombings in Boston than he did the day before. But he knew enough to call them an “act of terrorism.” Act of terrorism, not Muslim terroists Obama won't call Paris attack 'Islamic' Attackers shouted 'the prophet has been avenged,' 'Allahu akbar' Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/obama-unsure-terrorism-behind-paris-attack/#osL5U6CTpYJLd3oW.99Not knowing the rest of the cartoonists work I think they just immediately responded to the terrorist attack. |
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Why is Eric Holder the AG going to Paris to discuss the terrror attack? Shouldn't Kerry the SoS be going? EDIT Answered my own question http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/01/235624.htm |
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There will be a tipping point one day. The Japanese learned that lesson with Pearl Harbor. I thought that 9-11 was our present day tipping point but we somehow missed the mark in our response. I am fairly certain the day will come when the terrorists will make a fatal move that will cause such an uproar that a free society will not stand for. I shudder to think of the consequences of the provocation and the response it demands.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2015, 07:35:09 PM » |
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There will be a tipping point one day. The Japanese learned that lesson with Pearl Harbor. I thought that 9-11 was our present day tipping point but we somehow missed the mark in our response. I am fairly certain the day will come when the terrorists will make a fatal move that will cause such an uproar that a free society will not stand for. I shudder to think of the consequences of the provocation and the response it demands.
Interesting. I too would have thought 9-11 to be a tipping point, and we did miss the mark in our response I think. I also think that some, ok...liberals and politicians mainly, politically minimize the significance of these terrorist attacks and unless it is so outrageous and big, it will continue to be iced over and repeated. And just like the only way to eat an elephant, one bite at a time, It is the same way we will be overcome and fail/fall, as well, One attack at a time, iced over and repeated... The more things are accepted, the more acceptable they become. At some point, it will seem that our own attackers will be welcomed or expected. And that is what repulses me more than the attacks themselves. |
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There will be a tipping point one day. The Japanese learned that lesson with Pearl Harbor. I thought that 9-11 was our present day tipping point but we somehow missed the mark in our response. I am fairly certain the day will come when the terrorists will make a fatal move that will cause such an uproar that a free society will not stand for. I shudder to think of the consequences of the provocation and the response it demands.
That day may be closer than you think. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britains-mi5-chief-warns-al-qaeda-in-syria-planning-mass-attacks-on-west/ar-AA7Wajq?ocid=DELLDHPAnd if that's not enough, on Michael Savage yesterday, they where talking about a 27 page fatwa issued by the Rolex wearing leader Bagdaddy guy saying to kill 10,000,000 Americans, British, Australians and French....especially the French and to be efficient in your killing. Islam is a cancer set upon the world by the devil himself via his profit, the little boy loving pedophile Muhammad. It's a cancer that has to be eradicated. There was a reason for the crusades. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2015, 07:54:20 PM » |
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Why is Eric Holder the AG going to Paris to discuss the terror attack?
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I'm not disagreeing with anyone at all. The issue of the crusades fulminated out of issues of control. The islamic world did not want to yield control of the holy lands to the christian world, which was taking more and more territory in the middle east. The european powers felt that their manifest destiny was to free the lands of the origin of the faith from the usurping muslum faith. The prevalent power at the time all of the crusading was going on was the vatican. The holy lands of both factions were at stake, and still are. Over the centuries, bastardization of both faiths has been in the hands of pharasies (sp), of both viewpoints, interpreting the holy word to what they think, want, it to mean. Both sides have been set upon a fatally destructive course..If both sides do not wake up, THE GREAT SATIN WILL PREVAIL. Our prophet, Jesus of Nazareth, who I feel would not wish to be seen as a prophet if he had hes druthers, would not want to see the destruction of a people(s) brought about by a clouding of the eyes and closing of the minds of mankind. (Sometimes I think to deeply, so I just posted this peripheral opinion to stir things up a little bit more.)
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I'm not disagreeing with anyone at all. The issue of the crusades fulminated out of issues of control. The islamic world did not want to yield control of the holy lands to the christian world, which was taking more and more territory in the middle east. The european powers felt that their manifest destiny was to free the lands of the origin of the faith from the usurping muslum faith. The prevalent power at the time all of the crusading was going on was the vatican. The holy lands of both factions were at stake, and still are. Over the centuries, bastardization of both faiths has been in the hands of pharasies (sp), of both viewpoints, interpreting the holy word to what they think, want, it to mean. Both sides have been set upon a fatally destructive course..If both sides do not wake up, THE GREAT SATIN WILL PREVAIL. Our prophet, Jesus of Nazareth, who I feel would not wish to be seen as a prophet if he had hes druthers, would not want to see the destruction of a people(s) brought about by a clouding of the eyes and closing of the minds of mankind. (Sometimes I think to deeply, so I just posted this peripheral opinion to stir things up a little bit more.)
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2015, 12:17:59 PM » |
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drop the bomb over there, just an idea?  Problem with that is there are so many already in US borders, they will revolt and enough of them to make a go of it all over again. So, we trudge on. Terrorism always existed, but this crap is getting out of control hearing about the crazy insane people who don't deserve to cast one breath of air. |
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10,000,000, That should show us its time.
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No lenghty trials for 3 terrorists and hopefully the same for the 4th.
French friend tells me that the Charlie magazine is strictly anti death penalty. Wonder if this will alter the view?
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10,000,000, That should show us its time.
When they're saying to be efficient in your killing, they're saying to kill in huge quantities. A cartoon is offensive to mooslums. Mass murder...not so much. If that thinking permeates throughout the religion of peace, then that religion of peace needs to be eradicated. Turning a blind eye is nothing more than committing suicide. These people really do want to kill you and everyone like you until they've taken over the planet. Simply put, Islam IS NOT compatible with the civilized world. |
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I started my news paper career as an editorial cartoonist. What so many of my colleagues fail to understand is that the "pen" is powerful only in that it can issue a call to action. At the end of the day, evil violence will have to me met with good violence. If your cartoon/article/opinion piece, etc is a call for the end of terrorism, then ultimately you're calling for somebody to take arms against them. (Shoot the bad guys.) They (the terrorists) aren't going to stop because they read a cartoon. It's worse than naive to think that they will.
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Until the leaders of all western religions and countries unite to declare
war against all jihad and call for the execution of those who support
islamic fundamentalism, calling it for what it is, genocide against all except
CERTAIN Moslems, then we are pissing in the wind
This will not come from that fetid pile of manure otherwise
known as the United Nations nor from any Democratic administration, nor will it come
from a Republican administration, that my friends is the way it is NOW
Yes We are at war, have been at war for a long time but most of our people and
those in Europe are just too
freaking stupid to acknowledge that there are those who want us
DEAD DEAD DEAD
Its simple if you live here in the USA you are a target, We are the Big Satan
So a few cartoonists die, wowee, not to belittle it but thousands are dying every month
One of the bastards just shot up a market full of women and kids
That wont get the attention of the french in gay paree Vichy bastards showing their true colors
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Well said Oss. 11 cartoonists dead is nothing compared to the big picture. Perhaps as many as 2,000 massacred by Boko Haram yesterday alone. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30728158And yes, if they did take the town that would be a good ground zero for BIG boom #1 of many. Can' t get em all but might as well vaporize those clusters of dung. But our Zero in Chief won't even acknowledge the enemy. |
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Until the leaders of all western religions and countries unite to declare
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There's the crux of the matter right there Oss. Instead of casting aside their petty ideological differences they are clamoring and climbing over each other to claim the moral high ground. Until such time as those "leaders" put out the call for all to unite the we are certainly pissing in the wind. |
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Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
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Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
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Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
She's the wife/girlfriend of the single bastard. He along with 2 other males are dead. She's reported to have escaped to Syria. If so she had an escape route/plan firmly in place. |
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France is a puzzle to me. While they have many "no-go" zones, off limits to non-Muslims...here you have Charlie Hebdo publishing scathing satirical cartoons about the religion. What better place to plan an attack than an area forbidden to anyone other than Muslims? It appears the French strategy of appeasement backfired big time.
Pat Buchanan had it right. This was a military operation of great success. While tragic in context to the rest of the world, the Islamic Jihadists have been awarded a huge military victory as a result of these attacks. More to come? You bet yer ass there will be. This was textbook and guaranteed that the Jihadist training camps are already including it in their curriculum.
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Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
Are you saying the 2 terrorists brothers weren't killed in the printing warehouse? Well, thats what I thought was being said before I left the house this morning. It was also said then the female wasn't in the country at the time of the attack. I haven't heard anything more on that since, so, now I don't know what is right. I won't be watching the news again till tonight. |
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France is a puzzle to me. While they have many "no-go" zones, off limits to non-Muslims...here you have Charlie Hebdo publishing scathing satirical cartoons about the religion. What better place to plan an attack than an area forbidden to anyone other than Muslims? It appears the French strategy of appeasement backfired big time.
Pat Buchanan had it right. This was a military operation of great success. While tragic in context to the rest of the world, the Islamic Jihadists have been awarded a huge military victory as a result of these attacks. More to come? You bet yer ass there will be. This was textbook and guaranteed that the Jihadist training camps are already including it in their curriculum.
I'm not sure how executing cartoonists can be considered a "huge military victory". Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
Are you saying the 2 terrorists brothers weren't killed in the printing warehouse? Well, thats what I thought was being said before I left the house this morning. It was also said then the female wasn't in the country at the time of the attack. I haven't heard anything more on that since, so, now I don't know what is right. I won't be watching the news again till tonight. You might want to consider a different news source. |
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Are you saying the 2 terrorists brothers weren't killed in the printing warehouse? Well, thats what I thought was being said before I left the house this morning. It was also said then the female wasn't in the country at the time of the attack. I haven't heard anything more on that since, so, now I don't know what is right. I won't be watching the news again till tonight. They were talking about NBC releasing info that one terrorist was killed and 2 others were in custody. NBC had to walk that back when it was found not to be so. And the news channel I was half heartedly watching was talking about that as I was leaving the house this morning. It appears most channels are now talking about this. |
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France is a puzzle to me. While they have many "no-go" zones, off limits to non-Muslims...here you have Charlie Hebdo publishing scathing satirical cartoons about the religion. What better place to plan an attack than an area forbidden to anyone other than Muslims? It appears the French strategy of appeasement backfired big time.
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I'm not sure how executing cartoonists can be considered a "huge military victory". Apparently French intelligence stinks. Its been reported the brothers were killed, it now appears thats false. They have been looking for a female, apparently she was in another country at the time.
Are you saying the 2 terrorists brothers weren't killed in the printing warehouse? Well, thats what I thought was being said before I left the house this morning. It was also said then the female wasn't in the country at the time of the attack. I haven't heard anything more on that since, so, now I don't know what is right. I won't be watching the news again till tonight. You might want to consider a different news source. Understandable. The precision & methodical way it was carried out, from a Jihadist's perspective it is precisely that. |
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Why is anyone surprised? It is understandable......Note what B. Hussein Obama says in his own words.
In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.
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  ovomit is muslim subversive .... Collaborate .... working with others for a common goal ... working with an enemy occupier against one's own country
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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2015, 02:11:13 PM » |
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