All Time Low, Humanity

[dreamaker]

Humans have finally hit, the All Time Low in life it self. Creating GMO Human Embryos,
what next. Humanity circling the drain!!  What do you think!!!!

http://www.anh-usa.org/gmo-human-embryos-have-already-been-created/

[Patrick]

Considering Japans problems this may their only hope.

[WilliamRS]

have you researched  mitachondrial disease for babies?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31069173

http://www.umdf.org/site/pp.aspx?c=8qKOJ0MvF7LUG&b=7934629

 taking a donor mitachonria from a third female human to help two other humans have a healthy baby together (instead of having 7 dead ones in a row) isn't that much different than a bone marrow transfusion for a lukemia patient.  

[Serk]

Consider the source of the article... "Alliance for Natural Health"

Is this being done? Yes... What is "this" though is the question... it's not the Frankenstein horror story that article is portraying it as.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-parent_baby

(And yeah, being the proud father of a trio of what some people would derisively call "Test Tube Babies" makes me a little more sensitive to the mischaracterization of topics such as this.)

[RDAbull]

I'm an accountant, not a doctor.
I'm a Catholic, not the best one by far, but still one.
My family has a medical history of MS.
If the Doctors and researchers can lessen the risk of my grandchildren 
being struck with this terrible disease, I'm all in for it.

[czuch]

Any time I see "Alliance" I thorw a flag on the field.
They may have nothing for you to buy, but theyre selling something.

[NEHI]

   What if they were to create a race of Christie Brinkley's ???

[dreamaker]

I believe with things like this, their kneejerk intentions are good, but it always seem, they don't look at the big picture of what they do. So, when everything goes south, the common people suffer and pay for their mistakes.  I am not a tree hugger or save the whales type of person, but I do understand there is a chain of sequence that is required for all living things. Or am I misinformed on that point. 

[crow]

It amazes me, that we want science to make life better and investigate and do research, and when they give us answers, people freak out and or deny it.  The measles out break happened for that very reason!  Kids who are not vaccinated should not be allowed in public schools.  If you want it endager your kids, fine, but you should not be allowed to endanger mine!!!

[dreamaker]

I had measles, twice, once as a child and another as a young adult, but I am still here. Correct me if I am wrong, but children are suppose to get childhood sicknesses, like measles, chicken pox, mumps and so on, so their bodies can acquire an immunity to them. From my understanding, our bodies heal themselves if we let them, Doctors assist and medication supposedly deals with the symptoms of the problem. It seems that getting measles, is part of growing up process. From what I have been told, I guess when I had the measles as an adult are, could have been bad news.
Here is a little tidbit for you, they tell us old buzzards to go and get those shingle shots, not only the cost was outrages, out of pocket. After having it awhile, now I break out with blemishes, I didn't do that when I was a teenager. Now that crap is in my system, creating havoc with my body. Like I said they start out with the best intention, but when things F* up and go south, they call it Collateral damage, for the good of the majority. hey!! It is your body, do what you will.

[Serk]

I had measles, twice, once as a child and another as a young adult, but I am still here. Correct me if I am wrong, but children are suppose to get childhood sicknesses, like measles, chicken pox, mumps and so on, so their bodies can acquire an immunity to them. From my understanding, our bodies heal themselves if we let them, Doctors assist and medication supposedly deals with the symptoms of the problem. It seems that getting measles, is part of growing up process. From what I have been told, I guess when I had the measles as an adult are, could have been bad news.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/please-vax-your-kids#.benK0dz1Ko

[RDAbull]

Correct me if I am wrong, but children are suppose to get childhood sicknesses, like measles, chicken pox, mumps and so on, so their bodies can acquire an immunity to them. From my understanding, our bodies heal themselves if we let them, Doctors assist and medication supposedly deals with the symptoms of the problem. It seems that getting measles, is part of growing up process.

Sure, and we could teach them that fire is hot by letting them dance around a campfire until they fall in or teach them that guns could be dangerous by letting a 3 year old have an unsupervised .44 mag, but these are probably not good ideas either.  You build up immunities with the vaccines, why go through the list of maladies to see if you live long enough to build up the immunity to them when it is not necessary?  Yes, I know, measles kills very few but if your child is one of them statistics don't mean crap.  As some of the people in Southern California found out last year, whooping cough does kill, so do many of the other things that we should vaccinate against.

Anything that could help my kids or now my grandchildren gets a stand-up yes vote from me.

[WilliamRS]

I had measles, twice, once as a child and another as a young adult, but I am still here. Correct me if I am wrong, but children are suppose to get childhood sicknesses, like measles, chicken pox, mumps and so on, so their bodies can acquire an immunity to them. ....

The folks who live thru those sicknesses may gain some immunity.  Better to have a polio vaccination than to get polio.

Vaccinations give children that potential immunity without having to actually go thru those potentially damaging/deadly childhood sicknesses

[dreamaker]

I am defiantly pissing in to the wind!! I think you should go for it!  Pump your kids up with all those chemicals, that is the right thing to do!! I mean, nature hasn't a clue on what it is doing, good point.
If you get a moment, check this article out, I'm sure your scientist were work in their best interest also. Kind of radical thinking, but is there a trend, you think their mind set have changed. Ask our vets about, agent orange, LSD, SPT, sure science was working in their best interest also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

[Robert]

I understand being upset on this topic but this was already warned about when the whole topic of DNA was opened up as the way things would go. I see good and bad just like genetically modified food. The problem is the scientists cannot be trusted to know what is the right and wrong thing to do. This goes for consequences as well as what really good and bad. GMO on food, we are told is good but most studies find just the opposite. I wish there was a way to have this done safely with thorough testing but that will not happen. We will be the Guinea pigs and the people who have no common sense that request this done. Society as a whole is headed in the same direction with morals so we are getting to a point where anything goes. I like many here am old enough that it will not effect us but I hope our kids will understand and be wise on the choices they make. But although disturbing its not worth being upset over because you will not change it and it really will not effect you. About the most anyone can do is make their own wise decisions that applies to their own life. As I see it the whole thing boils down to morals, if they had done enough testing and proved it was safe then all could be happy. but without the testing and the human desire to want what we want now coupled with the need for money most times overrides personal conviction and moral truths. I really don't believe that we are playing God because there is really no way for us to achieve that kind of absolute decision making power. He has a lot more cards in His hand than we do and as much as we applaud ourselves as how great we are in our adulation I'm sure God sometimes laughs. I have another wonder blood lines, as it goes the Bible is very pointed about blood lines as are most of our top social strata. Mixing DNA as we know it could be changing the blood lines of these families I wonder how in the long term this will affect this new development. We did not know about inbreeding for along time either so there are many new things to ponder in the world today.

[dreamaker]

If you are referring to me being upset, not really. I just would like to see people thinking for themselves and make assumption, based on media hype. I hope I am wrong, for their sake.  I mean, take a deep breath and stop and think, there is an answer right under our nose!!!  We are here, we are communicating with each other, correct.  We the baby boomers, are some sort of proof that nature works.  Sure we have ailments, why!! because we spent most of our lives trashing our bodies. I read an article awhile back, about why children eat dirt, it said their bodies instinctively tell s to eat it, because they are low in minerals. Is it true, I don't know. I believe our bodies constantly protects itself and constantly is repairing itself. And I am no way saying that all science, scientist or doctors are bad, there are allot of good ones that truly cares, just have to find them.

[Serk]

GMO on food, we are told is good but most studies find just the opposite.

From my own research you'd be very hard pressed to find an actual peer-reviewed scientific study saying GMO food is "bad"...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2014/09/17/the-debate-about-gmo-safety-is-over-thanks-to-a-new-trillion-meal-study/

[Willow]

... I just would like to see people thing for themselves and make assumption, based on media hype. ...

I too would like people to thing for themselves.  I hope that doesn't mean they will start thinging like you have.  I believe you may have left a not out of your hopes but even so I think many including yourself are making large assumptions based upon media hype.  Whatever differences there are appear to be based solely upon which media we choose to accept.

People were intended to get measles?  Where on earth would a thinking person come up with that?  Perhaps someone should have explained that to the Native Americans that died in huge numbers when they were first exposed to the Europeans.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well, I've been thinging myself. Is that a bad thing ?

[dreamaker]

... I just would like to see people thing for themselves and make assumption, based on media hype. ...

I too would like people to thing for themselves.  I hope that doesn't mean they will start thinging like you have.  I believe you may have left a not out of your hopes but even so I think many including yourself are making large assumptions based upon media hype.  Whatever differences there are appear to be based solely upon which media we choose to accept.

People were intended to get measles?  Where on earth would a thinking person come up with that?  Perhaps someone should have explained that to the Native Americans that died in huge numbers when they were first exposed to the Europeans.

Look you can make as much fun of my spelling and my grammar as you want, and try and make me look like a fool, This was the second time, I have thick skin it don't bother me. I am just a regular guy trying to figure it all out, and not just sitting on my a$$ pointing fingers at others. I am not a doctor, or a scientist, but I am also not a quitter either, I try and look for the answers, or something that makes sense. Again sorry for the spelling, didn't know it offended you.

[Jess from VA]

Remember, there are two kinds of Measles.

In the early '60's our family Dr. told my mom to skip the vaccinations and let us get the German (hard) measles, might as well get it over with.  We all did; sis and I did fine, but they settled in my brother's ears and he had a 60-70% hearing loss for the rest of his life.     

[Willow]

... I just would like to see people thing for themselves and make assumption, based on media hype. ...

I too would like people to thing for themselves.  I hope that doesn't mean they will start thinging like you have.  I believe you may have left a not out of your hopes but even so I think many including yourself are making large assumptions based upon media hype.  Whatever differences there are appear to be based solely upon which media we choose to accept.

People were intended to get measles?  Where on earth would a thinking person come up with that?  Perhaps someone should have explained that to the Native Americans that died in huge numbers when they were first exposed to the Europeans.

Look you can make as much fun of my spelling and my grammar as you want, and try and make me look like a fool, This was the second time, I have thick skin it don't bother me. I am just a regular guy trying to figure it all out, and not just sitting on my a$$ pointing fingers at others. I am not a doctor, or a scientist, but I am also not a quitter either, I try and look for the answers, or something that makes sense. Again sorry for the spelling, didn't know it offended you.

Thanks for the permission.  I was concerned.  It doesn't really offend me.  I assumed it was a typo and not a true misspelling resulting from not knowing the correct spelling.  What it says to me is that you didn't really bother taking a second look at what you typed or probably don't bother with a second look at what you say.  I hope that's a wild assumption on my part.

You didn't really take the time to read the rest of my post, did you?   

[dreamaker]

... I just would like to see people thing for themselves and make assumption, based on media hype. ...

I too would like people to thing for themselves.  I hope that doesn't mean they will start thinging like you have.  I believe you may have left a not out of your hopes but even so I think many including yourself are making large assumptions based upon media hype.  Whatever differences there are appear to be based solely upon which media we choose to accept.

People were intended to get measles?  Where on earth would a thinking person come up with that?  Perhaps someone should have explained that to the Native Americans that died in huge numbers when they were first exposed to the Europeans.

Look you can make as much fun of my spelling and my grammar as you want, and try and make me look like a fool, This was the second time, I have thick skin it don't bother me. I am just a regular guy trying to figure it all out, and not just sitting on my a$$ pointing fingers at others. I am not a doctor, or a scientist, but I am also not a quitter either, I try and look for the answers, or something that makes sense. Again sorry for the spelling, didn't know it offended you.

Thanks for the permission.  I was concerned.  It doesn't really offend me.  I assumed it was a typo and not a true misspelling resulting from not knowing the correct spelling.  What it says to me is that you didn't really bother taking a second look at what you typed or probably don't bother with a second look at what you say.  I hope that's a wild assumption on my part.

You didn't really take the time to read the rest of my post, did you?   

Generally, when someone kicks me in the nuts, I don't look to see what kind of tie they are wearing.  If you don't understand my point, ask and I will do it in my best in my power to make my thoughts clear, don't sit there and slam me, because I am not at your scholastic level, I don't need an English Teacher, if an entrance exam is required for VRCC, let me know. See I am a techy kind of a guy, not a pencil neck.

[Serk]

So it has come to this...

[WilliamRS]

EDIT: Just realized this might be misconstrued--i am NOT calling you or anyone else names or trying to insult you or anyone else, just an idle commentary about the words 'geek', 'techy' & 'pencil neck'

See I am a techy kind of a guy, not a pencil neck.

aren't 'techy' and 'pencil neck' somewhat synonomous?



PENCIL NECK GEEK
(Pete Cicero / Martin Margulies)

Freddie Blassie



Back when I was a kid, life was going swell.
Till something happened, blew every thing to hell.
That night my daddy stumbled in, all pale and weak,
Said "A woman up the block just gave birth to a geek."

Mom said, "Sell it to the circus, what the heck."
Dad said, "Nope, this one's a pencil neck.
And if there's one thing lower than a side show freak,
It's a grit eatin', scum suckin', pencil neck geek."

You see if you take a pencil that won't hold lead,
Looks like a pipe cleaner attached to a head,
Add a buggy whip body with a brain that leaks,
You got yourself a grit eatin', pencil neck geek.

(chorus)
Pencil neck geek, grit eatin' freak,
scum suckin', pea head with a lousy physique.
He's a one man, no gut, loosing streak.
Nothin' but a pencil neck geek. 

Soon the geeks were poppin' up all over town.   
You couldn't hardly sneeze without knockin' one down.
After a nice juicy steak, if you need a toothpick,
Just reach for a geek, they'll do the trick.

One day we cut one up for fish bait.
Learned our lesson just a little bit late.
Soon as the geek hit the drink, the water turned red.
Next day, sure enough, all the fish were dead.

chorus

Most any night you know where I can be found.
Yeah, stomping some geek's head into the ground.
So keep the faith 'cause in Blassie you can trust,
I won't give up 'til the last geek bites the dust.

chorus

They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen."
I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplin' the dimes.
Its gonna be real hard times for all of these
grit eatin',
scum suckin',
boot lickin',
drop kickin',
gut grindin',
nail bitin',
glue sniffin',
scab pickin',
butt scratchin',
egg hatchin',
sleezy,
smelly,
pepper bellied,
dirty, lousy, rotten, stinkin', freaks.
Nothing but a pencil neck geek.

Pencil neck geek.
Pencil neck geek.
Pencil neck geek.

[98valk]

actual science suggests that the most likely cause of this insanely overblown outbreak was a person who was recently vaccinated.

Numerous published studies reveal how live-virus vaccines like MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) actually shed these diseases for many weeks or even months following vaccination, potentially infecting others, both vaccinated and unvaccinated. This means that any child who was recently given an MMR vaccine is a walking disease-spreader, a truth that the media is refusing to report as even just a possibility in this case.

The fact that vaccinated individuals can and do carry around contagious measles for many weeks while displaying no symptoms of the disease suggests that this latest outbreak might just be another example of a vaccine-strain outbreak. While a handful of the roughly 100 measles cases identified so far have tested out as wild genotype B3 measles, according to the latest reports, the original source of the outbreak has yet to be identified.

"Numerous scientific studies indicate that children who receive a live virus vaccination can shed the disease and infect others for weeks or even months afterwards," said Leslie Manookian, a documentary filmmaker and activist. "Thus, parents who vaccinate their children can indeed put others at risk."

A fairly recent example of this occurred in New York City during a measles outbreak that was documented in 2011. A twice-vaccinated individual -- that is, an individual who received two separate doses of MMR in accordance with U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommendations -- was found to have spread measles to multiple individuals.

Nearly two decades ago, the CDC itself came to this same disturbing conclusion in a study published in the Journal of Clinical Microbiology. Urine samples collected from newly vaccinated 15-month-old children as well as young adults revealed that nearly all of them had detectable levels of the measles virus inside their bodies, meaning they are the real contagion threat.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048519_vaccines_measles_virus_shedding.html#ixzz3Qu5dCzRk

[98valk]

Parents concerned about their vaccinated children potentially contracting measles from unvaccinated children may want to consider the fact that the bigger health threat is technically the vaccine, not the disease itself. Comparative data provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reveal that nobody has died from measles in more than 10 years, while at least 108 deaths reported in VAERS during the same time frame have been linked to measles vaccines.

Many of our older readers probably remember a time when measles wasn't viewed with the obscene level of paranoid hysterics being witnessed today. Like chickenpox, measles was a common childhood infection that, after running its typically mild course, imparted lifelong immunity in those who contracted it. The risk of serious complications or death from measles has always been overwhelmingly minimal, in other words, with previous generations viewing it as something of a rite of passage.

Fast forward to today and all rationality and common sense has gone out the window on this issue. The media is reporting a few isolated cases of measles as if it were the black plague, calling for those who don't vaccinate their children to be ostracized from their communities or even jailed for "putting others at unnecessary risk." But where are the facts in all this unsubstantiated mania, which unfairly tags the unvaccinated as dangerous lepers?

Once again, the media is discarding factual reporting in favor of mindless sensationalism, attributing an alleged measles resurgence -- even this claim is specious -- to the unvaccinated. Whether or not this claim is actually true pales in importance compared to the fact that measles really isn't much of a threat in the first place. The measles vaccine, on the other hand, is a whole different story.

"There have been no measles deaths reported in the U.S. since 2003," the Associate Press reported based off statements made by Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Meanwhile, VAERS, which captures only a very small percentage of the actual number of injuries and deaths associated with measles vaccines, reports at least 108 deaths associated with measles vaccines since 2003. Of these, a shocking 96 deaths were reported in conjunction with MMR, which is now the preferred vaccine for measles immunization.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048518_measles_vaccines_CDC_data.html#ixzz3QuBtVpig

in the book of Hosea, God said "My people perish from the lack of knowledge"

[hubcapsc]

children who receive a live virus vaccination can shed the disease and infect others for weeks or even months afterwards," said Leslie Manookian, a documentary filmmaker and activist.

Elmer A. Dowdy, the custodian in my building and a bird-calling enthusiast, says he doubts this is so.

-Mike "sometimes I just can't help myself..."

[Windrider]

Parents concerned about their vaccinated children potentially contracting measles from unvaccinated children may want to consider the fact that the bigger health threat is technically the vaccine, not the disease itself. Comparative data provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) reveal that nobody has died from measles in more than 10 years, while at least 108 deaths reported in VAERS during the same time frame have been linked to measles vaccines.

Many of our older readers probably remember a time when measles wasn't viewed with the obscene level of paranoid hysterics being witnessed today. Like chickenpox, measles was a common childhood infection that, after running its typically mild course, imparted lifelong immunity in those who contracted it. The risk of serious complications or death from measles has always been overwhelmingly minimal, in other words, with previous generations viewing it as something of a rite of passage.

Fast forward to today and all rationality and common sense has gone out the window on this issue. The media is reporting a few isolated cases of measles as if it were the black plague, calling for those who don't vaccinate their children to be ostracized from their communities or even jailed for "putting others at unnecessary risk." But where are the facts in all this unsubstantiated mania, which unfairly tags the unvaccinated as dangerous lepers?

Once again, the media is discarding factual reporting in favor of mindless sensationalism, attributing an alleged measles resurgence -- even this claim is specious -- to the unvaccinated. Whether or not this claim is actually true pales in importance compared to the fact that measles really isn't much of a threat in the first place. The measles vaccine, on the other hand, is a whole different story.

"There have been no measles deaths reported in the U.S. since 2003," the Associate Press reported based off statements made by Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Meanwhile, VAERS, which captures only a very small percentage of the actual number of injuries and deaths associated with measles vaccines, reports at least 108 deaths associated with measles vaccines since 2003. Of these, a shocking 96 deaths were reported in conjunction with MMR, which is now the preferred vaccine for measles immunization.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048518_measles_vaccines_CDC_data.html#ixzz3QuBtVpig

in the book of Hosea, God said "My people perish from the lack of knowledge"

The US had no measles deaths BECAUSE CHILDREN GET VACCINATED.

The World Health Organization reports 145,700 deaths due to measles in 2013 alone.  That is 400 per day or 16 per hour.  During the period from 2000 to 2013 deaths decreased by 75% because 84% of the worlds kids received one dose ofthe measles vaccine by age one.

I hope we do not have to resort to legislating common sense, but California is heading that direction.

We have many people who are concerned about maintaining their rights. They seem to know zilch about their responsibilities.  PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO SPREAD COMMUNICABLE DISEASES AT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  SO, THE IRRESPONSIBLE THAT DON'T GET THEIR KIDS VACCINATED CAN KEEP THEM HOME.

Of course, there are some exceptions to vaccinations. Kids that are too young to be vaccinated and kids that are known to be allergic to some component of the vaccine.  Health care providers are diligent about screening patients for such things.

And BTW nothing is perfect.  That seems to be the only acceptable standard for some, pure perfection.  As a child my son was vaccinated for measles, but it didn't "take", i.e. the weakened virus was too weak to stimulate the required immune response.  A girl in his school room, a child of Christian Science parents, who did not believe in vaccines for religious reasons, came to school with measles and infected my son.  We, at least, tried to do the right thing.  He recovered with any residual injury.

[98valk]

I luv people who don't go the article link and read it, and then ignore what was posted of how many children DIE from the injection, and posted more mis-truths put out by the elitist and pharma companies

"What you may not have heard, is that by 1963, the death rate from measles in the United States had already dropped by approximately 98%," explains the International Medical Council on Vaccination (IMCV).

Not long after it was introduced, the first measles vaccine was actually found to manifest worse symptoms of measles in vaccinated patients than if they hadn't gotten the vaccine at all. The vaccine also suppressed the normal rash and fever associated with measles, obstructing the normal immune response and ultimately leading to future health problems for vaccinated individuals once they reached adulthood.

"[W]hereas natural measles exposure generally left the person with reliable lifelong immunity, measles vaccines leave the individual with waning immunity," adds IMCV. "This dynamic of waning immunity means we will probably see measles epidemics even in highly vaccinated populations."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048518_measles_vaccines_CDC_data.html##ixzz3QuuO837W

[Windrider]

I get how the Natural News tries to fear monger to undermine public health.  They had to go through 10 years of data to find 108 deaths caused by measles vaccine.  That's 0.9 deaths per month.  A look at CDC data shows vaccination coverage in the USA is about 89.7%.  The 2010 census of the USA shows the number of kids under age 5 is 21,100,000.  89.7% of 21,100,000 is 18,779,000.  Just to keep it simple a kid's chances of dying from a MMR shot in any particular month is less than 1 in 18,779,000.  Is that really an unreasonable risk?  Please, I don't want to nit pick over numbers.  The point is the real risk is very, very low and will never be zero.

GMs happen all the time in nature.  Now humans are learning to control it and do so with precision.  We will need very clever GM plants to feed people over the next 50 years.  Some of you prefer organically grown food.  Oganically grown carrots, corn and tomatoes are GMOs right now.  Humans have been genetically modifying foods through selective breeding for about a 1000 years.

I strongly favor the work in genetics that has the potential to reduce the occurance of genetically based diseases such and ALS, MS, Parkinson's disease, Downs syndrome, Muscular Dystrophy, Cystic Fibrosis, Corneal Dystrophy, Autoimmune Liver Disease, etc., etc., etc.

[98valk]

I get how the Natural News tries to fear monger to undermine public health.  They had to go through 10 years of data to find 108 deaths caused by measles vaccine.  That's 0.9 deaths per month.  A look at CDC data shows vaccination coverage in the USA is about 89.7%.  The 2010 census of the USA shows the number of kids under age 5 is 21,100,000.  89.7% of 21,100,000 is 18,779,000.  Just to keep it simple a kid's chances of dying from a MMR shot in any particular month is less than 1 in 18,779,000.  Is that really an unreasonable risk?  Please, I don't want to nit pick over numbers.  The point is the real risk is very, very low and will never be zero.

GMs happen all the time in nature.  Now humans are learning to control it and do so with precision.  We will need very clever GM plants to feed people over the next 50 years.  Some of you prefer organically grown food.  Oganically grown carrots, corn and tomatoes are GMOs right now.  Humans have been genetically modifying foods through selective breeding for about a 1000 years.

I strongly favor the work in genetics that has the potential to reduce the occurance of genetically based diseases such and ALS, MS, Parkinson's disease, Downs syndrome, Muscular Dystrophy, Cystic Fibrosis, Corneal Dystrophy, Autoimmune Liver Disease, etc., etc., etc.

if that one child death is your child is that still acceptable?

Natural news and many other sites are promoting public health. The uninformed are fearful.
selective breeding, cross pollination, and other things man has done to produce other types of produce IS NOT GMO. GMs do not happen all of the time in nature.
 u need to educate yourself more on the subject.
your statememt of genetically based diseases such as...... is very a large lack of knowledge all of those diseases are NOT genetically based, they are caused by bad diets, poisons in food system and drugs/chemicals given to people.
u need to seriously educate yourself and stop spending the pharm cartel lies and mis information.
did u go to the International Medical Council on Vaccination (IMCV) site. All medical professionals who know the truth.

It's important to understand why things work. If you don't understand, then you can't think for yourself, and all you can do is repeat the mistakes of your teachers, who were repeating what they learned in a book from other people who just were repeating what they heard...  Dr. J. Bookspan

All truth passes through three stages:
   First, it is ridiculed;
   Second, it is violently opposed; and
   Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

[hubcapsc]

if that one child death is your child is that still acceptable?

Getting MMR vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps or rubella.

                http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/mmr.html
           

But to answer your weird question, I guess I would rather it be someone I don't know...

-Mike

[dreamaker]

All these discussion, opinions and info. going on, but it boils down to one thing, Its Your Choice, and the results is yours!!!

[98valk]

if that one child death is your child is that still acceptable?

Getting MMR vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps or rubella.

                http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/mmr.html
           

But to answer your weird question, I guess I would rather it be someone I don't know...

-Mike

not true. more people die from vac shots.  read the actual reports.
rubella aka 3 DAY measles, nobody dies from, mumps who dies from that?
children don't die from measles,
From the years of 1998 – 2007, the risk of any unimmunized child dying from ACUTE measles was as follows:
    immunodeficient children = one per 14,182 cases of measles; healthy normal children = 0 out of 28,364.
    Any suggestion that in 2008, the risk of any child dying of acute measles is 1 in 2,000 is another fictional statistical manipulation, in the same vein as: “in order for the risk/benefit equation to be tipped in favour of leaving children unvaccinated against MMR, there would need to have been more than 7500 deaths from MMR in the last 10 years.” 
http://www.whale.to/v/measles_deaths.html
u believe the CDC and WHO? maybe u should research all of the pharma $$$ funding/control of the CDC/WHO.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistleblower-cdc-covered-up-mmr-vaccine-link-to-autism-in-african-american-boys/

follow the money
http://www.realfarmacy.com/big-pharma-fraud-government-corruption-love-story/
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/drugs-medical/CDC_Big_Pharma-00285.html#.VNTOD6NOlfw

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/nullvaccinesecondopinion2000.shtml
For more than a hundred years, two basic assumptions have been put forth by public health officials. One is that vaccines are safe. The second is that vaccines are effective for the conditions for which they’re given. The public and our legislators have, by and large, accepted these assumptions as true, and as a result it is now compulsory in many states that children have as many as 33 inoculations before entering school, with some of these given as early as the first few weeks of life.

We’ve been told that the end of smallpox, polio, and measles as serious health threats is due to mass inoculation programs, and again we have accepted the official dogma unquestioningly. But as we shall see here, this is not exactly the truth. What’s more, a disturbing reality that has generally been unrecognized is the ever-growing number of individuals suffering adverse reactions to vaccinations. These individuals are predominantly infants and children, and the problems they’ve incurred as a result of vaccination go way beyond sore arms and transitory fever: Such conditions as autism, attention deficit disorder, minimal brain dysfunction, and other biochemical and neurological abnormalities have been linked to the effects of vaccines. Most tragically, so has SIDS—sudden infant death syndrome. Yet because of underreporting of these troubling statistical links, a full picture of the effects of vaccination has not emerged. And the problem of underreporting is a deep-seated one, because not only are the news media not playing up what has already been learned, but doctors are not being encouraged to report possible adverse reactions, slowing additional learning. Couple these problems with the official line that for the greater good of the majority a small minority must accept negative consequences, and you have a situation in which nobody is really looking for the truth.

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/nullandgaleexposevaccinefraud15oct09.shtml

[hubcapsc]

not true. more people die from vac shots.  read the actual reports.

Sorry. I'm going with the CDC. I avoid websites like the ones you've
referenced like the plague...

-Mike

[Serk]

not true. more people die from vac shots.  read the actual reports.

Sorry. I'm going with the CDC. I avoid websites like the ones you've
referenced like the plague...

-Mike

Yeah... I was going to refute the points made by CA's cut and pastes but upon deeper reflection, trying to rationalize with someone who actually believes what they read from "Natural World News" is an exercise in futility...

So bottom line is this - Please vaccinate your kids. If you refuse to do so, that's you business, but please keep them home and away from my kids. Thank you.

Besides, if you truly believe that vaccinated kids are the real danger, you should be motivated to keep your kids away from mine anyway.

That's All I Have To Say About That- Forrest Gump Quote	powered by Aeva

[RDAbull]

not true. more people die from vac shots.  read the actual reports.

Sorry. I'm going with the CDC. I avoid websites like the ones you've
referenced like the plague...

-Mike

Or the measles, or whooping cough, or mumps, or polio, or, oh well, you get my point.'
Roger