What and when?

[JimmyG]

I read everywhere about how pissed many Americans are and it seems like everyone is ready to blow their top over our present administrations shenanigans.  This gets even hotter when folks start talking about illegals and even more especially when  muslims are brought up.  Well, I ask a lot of questions, and I keep asking people I know, what is it going to  take and when before Americans get enough and do something rather than talk about doing something?  It seems like no one knows, they just shrug their shoulders.   Will it take someone stepping out on a limb and being a spokesman for, " we the people", or what?  I know lots of people ready to eliminate the threat, but who is going to start the revolution, and when?  I wonder how our forefathers would handle this? 

I know this is very controversial, but even some liberals I know are really getting tired of being crapped on.  Just thinking about this on a cold wet day.

[Jess Tolbirt]

your thinking holds merit,, i often say "IITTSS" (it is time to start shooting)..and i often think to my self that someone with the know how should take a stand,,i have started hunting in the area where the boat sank and i could very soon run across those old guns i lost in the accident..do you think our military would turn against its own people?

[Patrick]

We are just too comfortable and busy taking care of ourselves. Well, most of us are comfortable and those of us that are working are busy.
Everyone seems to hate all politicians, except theirs. So making any meaningful change is difficult. Now, meaningful change is far different from fundamental change.

[old2soon]

Where to start? The judicial process has become a joke. The lame stream media is self explanatory. We have a do nothing gubmint in deception central on both sides of the aisle. We have a P O S potus that keeps writing "executive orders" thereby bypassing congress AND congressional law. Speaking of deception central-they DO NOT worry about-We The People-they worry about their next term. I can't recollect WHERE I read this but $7000000.00 a MINUTE is what our gubmint is ripping thru 24/7/365? And the 7 mil is a question/statement. I believe a portion of voters TRY hard to get the right person in office but even IF they are the right person they get CORRUPTED.   When they-deception central-stacks the deck in their favor often enough they win way MORE than they lose. I DO NOT remember them ASKING for all those pay raises or lifetime health care-do you? And what little the press gets out to the populace is what they either know or are ALLOWED to report on. And the people gittin the freebies ain't gonna bite the gubmint that feeds em! And I KNOW I missed stuff therefore I count on my bros and sis's to chime in. RIDE SAFE.

[BF]

I just wanna know where were all of the pissed off voters during the last presidential election?

Apparently, not enough people were pissed off enough yet. 

[Valkorado]

Well, let's hope it doesn't take an Iranian ICBM.  BF nailed it, our "fellow" Americans put him in power -- twice.  Shame on them.   

[Romeo]

I think that possibly the military may be the way forward. How many chiefs of staff are we going to go through before one decides enough is enough. It makes one wonder what Douglas MacArthur would have done in these circumstances.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I think that possibly the military may be the way forward. How many chiefs of staff are we going to go through before one decides enough is enough. It makes one wonder what Douglas MacArthur would have done in these circumstances.

Military coup ?

[Oss]

McArthur was fired he crossed the line (so to speak) and he took it


He was a patriot and honored his oath to uphold the Constitution when
Truman sacked him

[JimmyG]

Jess, I think many of the military and many cops will turn on the people.  Some folks in uniform are going do what their boss tells them because they just are not smart enough or old enough to see what is happening.   I've asked servicemen and cops about it. the ones with a little age and experience on them say they would not turn on the American people, but I watch the young gung ho types and they just kinda have a wild look on their faces, like, I am the law and I have a gun, don't mess with me.   It may well come from within the military itself, it's happened before in third world countries, and our trip down the toilet here recently concerns me that it could happen here.   AND,  I know were a boat sunk full of guns and ammo, I may have to put the scuba gear on to get it, but that is not hard to do.  

[Robert]

I personally believe that if everyone would push for the US government to buy back the ability to print its own money and get rid of the Federal Reserve that this one step would set things on their head and start the process to a strong US. Listen to a 12 year old talk and explain about Canadas debt the same as the US. 6 minutes long. It could be a uniting topic all could understand it would take the national debt and wipe it out and then we could work on the issues that separate us. Its something we all can agree on, why should we pay for a private institution to print our money and loan it back to us at debt. Prosperity would increase, money would start to flow to all and we may not need some of the programs we have now for the poor to survive. Health care could be free and still pay less in taxes, less to no debt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHQOX8EVNmE

[MarkT]

Note POTUS has fired tons of top military performing brass not for malfeasance but for personal reasons or not toeing HIS line.  He is VERY unpopular among the military rank and file.  Maybe throughout the ranks.  

I'm an old man.  But I have NEVER been this pissed off.  I don't care about what's left of my life so much anymore.  But what that f'n kenyan mooslum is doing to our country breaks my heart.  I didn't do nam for this.

Organization needs to happen to effect change such as in our first revolution.  Backed by some deep pockets. And a public forum ain't the place.

[JimmyG]

Organization needs to happen to effect change such as in our first revolution.  Backed by some deep pockets. And a public forum ain't the place.""

That is exactly correct!!

[art]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear that obummer was going to run for a third term and change the constitution to allow it, Long live the king (a--hole)of the USA.  About Iran nuking the USA. worry about the N.Koreans they will have a ICBM before Iran and they are a lot closer to our west coast.

[old2soon]

I've stated this before and i'll state it again-this IS NOT the Country I went to war for 1964 1968. This is NOT the country my Cousin Jimmy and my friend Vince died for in Nam. BUT I KNOW it can become again a Country to be proud of and if needed-die for! THAT is my Hope and my Prayer. DO NOT misinterpret me at all-I STILL love this Country-JUST not real proud of what it's currently become. RIDE SAFE.

[Pappy!]

We did take a stand! In the mid-terms, but it seems a common core run through almost all those in Washington these days and am already losing faith in the ones we voted into power.
You would think with a Repub house and senate that we would be as busy fixing issues as O'Idiot is making a mess of things but it has been strangely silent up there.

[Alien]

It's really simple.  Don't like an administration?  Vote against them at election time.   Old2soon, Of course this isn't the same country you went to war for in the 60's, but I'm sure a lot of WWII vets said the same thing back then.  There are so many people spewing anger these days (on every side) and they do it for one reason:  It's easy.  It's easy to get on the computer and type angry words or go on rage filled diatribes at the local bar.  What's not so easy is to shed the anger, the negativity and the hate, shake yourself off and go out into the world as a force of positivity.



Ride Safe,

Alien

[JimmyG]

Voting no longer seems to be effective, at least not that I have seen in the past few years. 
As far as being a positive force, I believe that too, so did the Christians that are in a land of 5th century barbarians. All they got were their heads lopped off.  God will judge them just like he will judge everybody else in the world.  Excuse me for saying this, but I think you are removed from reality somewhat.  Yes, some spew hatred and anger and hide behind computer screens. Some hide behind their women and children, and buildings they consider holy.  If I understand paradise correctly, it cannot be found here on this earth.  Although I love my country, I love God more and hope to live with him in paradise when time is over. Until then, I am still human enough to know to keep my powder dry.  Not spewing anger and hate, just trying to figure out how you will be able to live safely and not like a slave to inhumane barbarians.  I just wanted to ask a fair question among reasonable thinking human beings, that is all.  

[BF]

We did take a stand! In the mid-terms, but it seems a common core run through almost all those in Washington these days and am already losing faith in the ones we voted into power.
You would think with a Repub house and senate that we would be as busy fixing issues as O'Idiot is making a mess of things but it has been strangely silent up there.

Yes, we did.  We voted, we took a stand.  

Too damn bad that we have a couple pussies running the House and the Senate now and won't take a stand or stand up to Omooslum.    

They bluster, he pushes back, they wimper and cave.  

[f6john]

It's really simple.  Don't like an administration?  Vote against them at election time.   Old2soon, Of course this isn't the same country you went to war for in the 60's, but I'm sure a lot of WWII vets said the same thing back then.  There are so many people spewing anger these days (on every side) and they do it for one reason:  It's easy.  It's easy to get on the computer and type angry words or go on rage filled diatribes at the local bar.  What's not so easy is to shed the anger, the negativity and the hate, shake yourself off and go out into the world as a force of positivity.



Ride Safe,

Alien

      Alien, your showing you age. A lot of grey hair on this board has seen this country slide so far that we can't believe what we are seeing. That's not to say corruption is something new or we just realized that politicians lie but after the last 2 elections I have lost faith that there are enough people with common sense left to make an informed decision about who leads this country. And if the percentage of people who do actually do vote is any indication of serious concern for the future well.......

     You are addressing men who have the ability of independent thought and won't buy every line that is tossed out. Emotions run high and a lot of things are written that fit your description but when the crap hits the fan, I wouldn't be afraid to have these guys close.

[JimmyG]

Well stated f6john