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Author Topic: can someone please explain the logic?  (Read 1438 times)
Lyn-Del
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« on: May 27, 2015, 12:29:21 PM »

Picked up the rental car for Inzane, shoulder just won't work quite well enough to ride.

Anyway, this is the second car they offered, the first had an expired license sticker. Oops.

Who thought it would be brilliant to put the battery with the spare tire, under the truck cargo area?  If the battery dies, you have to unload the car.  Usually I'm quick to offer to help when someone needs a jump start, but I won't on this trip.

What's the logic behind putting one of the most often access items in one of the most inconvenient places?
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 12:35:53 PM »

LOL!  If that's among your most frequently accessed items I suggest you make some changes to your driving habits.   Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 12:42:46 PM »

I think that some cars have places to connect jumper cables under the hood even through their batteries are under the front fender or some other inaccessible place.
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Anthony
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 12:44:49 PM »

logic = weight distribution :
remove heavy part from engine area, and add to rear of car.

there usually still is a connection point for starter cables under the hood.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 12:47:25 PM »

There is so much jammed under the hood of a modern car that something has to move.  Like others have said, there will be terminals for jump-starting/charging under the hood.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2015, 12:54:52 PM »

The guy who did that, and the guy who designed all the Dodges (like mine) with the battery down in the fender well should be drug behind a car for five miles to improve their thought process.  Same thing for the guy who designs a truck where you have to remove the entire dash to change a $25 heater/cooling part that is guaranteed to fail after 5-7 years.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2015, 01:19:45 PM »

Truck cargo area.  Are you towing one of your motorcycles or just driving the truck?
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2015, 01:35:01 PM »

Trunk.  Darned auto correct.

Range of motion much improved, still can't keep arm elevated to handlebar height for long periods, can't let arm just hang beside me either.  Oh, well, Inzane is about the people, right?
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 03:01:18 PM »

One side benefit I think of having the battery in the trunk is the fact that the engine compartment heat doesn't cause premature failure. Here in AZ, 3 year battery life is pretty much the norm. I had a Chrysler 300 that had it's original battery that was trunk mounted go 6.5years before needing replacement. Have a coworker who experienced similar battery life in his honda hybee. Battery in the trunk. Might be coincidence but it's a lot less hot in the trunk.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 03:02:45 PM »

 New vehicles , higher operating temperature. Battery does not like it that hot. European style hookup. Weight transfer , spare tire lonely. Keep your beer cooler company. It adds aroma to your clothes when it overcharges. Something to hurl forward in a rear end collision. Puts the source of ignition closer to the gas tank so there is less waiting for the explosion. Gives the rescue workers  a chance to play Where's The Battery. Makes it harder to steal the battery and it upsets the little dorks who make a living by stealing car parts. It gives you more time to shoot them ( I do not believe I said that)  A N D  If you can't spell enjuneer  Oris it inguineere how dare you question their wisdom~~~~~~~~~~~~

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 03:22:29 PM »

Thanks to you all.  l'll look for the connection under the hood.  

Its not my driving, Willow, it's what I do when not driving.  I have a 13 year old truck, gets 10 - 20 K a year, spends long periods sitting and waiting its turn.  Too often I forget to unplug the GPS and it pulls the battery down after a period of weeks, Battery will get low even when I do unplug it.  So I do spend an inordinate amount of time messing with the battery on that one.

But mostly it's me pulling out my jumper cables and lending a hand.  Gotta build up my Pay It Forward points so I can get help when I need it.  I've changed tires on several people's cars but never on my own, always had a kind gentleman stop and help. I'd like to keep it that way!

(When will I learn not to use my phone to post?  One of these days it's likely to change something and get me in trouble!)


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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 05:09:27 PM »

Can't believe nobody knows the real reason.   Roll Eyes

It's weight bias for drag racin'.  More weight over the rear wheels for grip.   Wink

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 10:51:36 PM »

2005 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi original battery still working strong under the Hood cooldude
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2015, 03:27:49 AM »




Batteries are now found in the fender wells, under the rear seats, and in the trunk. It's become a guessing game where they are on certain vehicles. During an accident if the air bags have not gone off you have to disconnect them properly or the bags may deploy anyway. Electric / hybrid cars are a PIA and can kill first responders if not treated properly in an extrication situation.
Great thinking on some of these peoples part when quick access is necessary.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2015, 06:19:57 AM »

I'm a retired locksmith, and disconnected the battery on cars before servicing the ignition, both for the air bag and to be sure I didn't accidentally short something out.  Maybe that's where my concern about where the battery is began.

I'm glad to know both that there is a reason the battery was put in the trunk and that I'm not the only one who has concerns about it.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2015, 07:20:41 AM »

Idiot new cars.
High beam under the left foot. Wiper switch on the dash. Points under the cap.
$60.00 for 5 year registration, $19.00 a month to slightly over insure.
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ad infinitum
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2015, 08:37:46 AM »

Idiot new cars.
High beam under the left foot. Wiper switch on the dash. Points under the cap.
$60.00 for 5 year registration, $19.00 a month to slightly over insure.
61 Galaxie
67 F-250
63 VW baja
69 VW van
71 Suburban,,,,X2
ad infinitum
      SOMEWHERE in my shop I still have a dwell meter. I also have the allen wrench long and flexible for setting dwell on G M distributors. Remember that little metal access plate that stuck most of the time on the distributor cap? Some how over the years I've lost my points file.  Undecided RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2015, 10:39:20 AM »




Does it make me old if I remember that? I still have my dwell and tach meter made by Allen in my cabinet. Prolly aren't many around that messed with points, condensers and timing lights. Did I ask if that makes me old?
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2015, 10:59:46 AM »

I gave my nice chrome timing light to my local Harley shop, they work on all the old ones.  (NOT a dealership)

I think I have a nice old set of JC Whitney brake tools.

However, the nice aerial-like extending magnets come in handy and I'm keeping them.

How about crows feet?
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2015, 11:01:59 AM »



   Is that the one's around my eyes or the tools? I have both. 2funny  Most of mine are in 3/8s.
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2015, 11:20:11 AM »

Idiot new cars.
High beam under the left foot. Wiper switch on the dash. Points under the cap.
$60.00 for 5 year registration, $19.00 a month to slightly over insure.
61 Galaxie
67 F-250
63 VW baja
69 VW van
71 Suburban,,,,X2
ad infinitum
      SOMEWHERE in my shop I still have a dwell meter. I also have the allen wrench long and flexible for setting dwell on G M distributors. Remember that little metal access plate that stuck most of the time on the distributor cap? Some how over the years I've lost my points file.  Undecided RIDE SAFE.
I don't think I ever had a points file. I would just steal one of my moms Emory boards. I do still have the dwell meter but haven't used it in years.
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2015, 05:45:08 PM »

My dwell meter takes "D" cell batteries and still works. So it's not as old as I am. Point file is my ignition kit with the skinny wrenches to remove the old points that were bolted in. I still use all of them once in a while. Mostly on older tractors. I did convert my 70 Challenger to electronic ignition because you can't get decent point that will dwell setting anymore. My dad always used a match book to set points and seemed to get along (ok) Yea new is better, but I still like the older stuff like a Valkyrie with Carbs.  2funny
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