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Carb-Slow Jet Removal

Started by pais, Sun 28, Jun 2015, 06:28:07

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pais

 Working on the #5 Carb recently and found this. Any ideas / suggestions on how I can get this out? I tried pliers with no results. Based on the condition of all the carbs and jets so far. It is probably clean but, I hate to put it back together in this condition.
   I have not been able to separate all the main jets from emulsion tubes either. Don't want to chew them up doing it.
   Mind you the pic shows the carb as is. I had not yet cleaned it. I'm assuming PO had carbs cleaned before he sold the bike. He told me he had it done, just not when.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!


Gavin_Sons

I just broke 3 of mine trying to remove them. Ordered all 6 new ones and used an easy out on the 3 broken ones.

Patrick

Filling the hole with grease then re-cutting the slot with a Dremel may help.

When trying to remove anything stubborn, give it a few raps with a hammer. In the case of these jets, cover the jet with a punch of the correct diameter and rap it a few times with a hammer then insert the screwdriver of the correct size and give it a few raps.  Rather than steady twisting pressure most times a quick twist will break things loose.

pais

  Gavinson, curious, where did you order your jets from? Never have seen an easy out that small?
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!


Gavin_Sons

Quote from: pais on Sun 28, Jun 2015, 07:03:58
  Gavinson, curious, where did you order your jets from? Never have seen an easy out that small?

Got them from partzilla. Took a week to get them but now I know they are all new. My dad had a set of small easy outs.  Stuck the small one in there, tapped with a hammer and it twisted right out. Mine broke exactly like yours. On the other 3 I grinded a screwdriver down to fit perfectly in the slot and those did not break. I think the first 3 broke because the screwdriver was too small. But in my defense they were a little bent and mis shaped before I got ahold of them.

Pappy!

I do gunked up carbs on a weekly basis. Most jets just have threads that are "varnished" in.
To remove these I use a butane torch at the threaded area. This softens the varnish and the jets come loose nicely. You dont have to use much heat at all.
In your case an easy out and heat will do the trick.

nogrey

Quote from: Pappy! on Sun 28, Jun 2015, 08:59:13
I do gunked up carbs on a weekly basis. Most jets just have threads that are "varnished" in.
To remove these I use a butane torch at the threaded area. This softens the varnish and the jets come loose nicely. You dont have to use much heat at all.
In your case an easy out and heat will do the trick.
This one has my vote. I would emphasize the "not much heat" part. You're working with brass and aluminum. A little heat, a light rap with a plastic mallet, and it should come out. If not, wash, rinse, repeat.

Punisher

and with heat this doesn't necessarily mean a flame.   You can use a heat gun or perhaps even a hair dryer to warm up that varnish enough to soften it.

I've used a manual impact driver with great success over the years, especially with the phillips style JIS screws holding the float bowls.

Can get these at most auto-parts stores as well:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-impact-driver/p-00947641000P

Patrick

Quote from: Punisher on Sun 28, Jun 2015, 16:17:08
and with heat this doesn't necessarily mean a flame.   You can use a heat gun or perhaps even a hair dryer to warm up that varnish enough to soften it.

I've used a manual impact driver with great success over the years, especially with the phillips style JIS screws holding the float bowls.

Can get these at most auto-parts stores as well:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-impact-driver/p-00947641000P






The hand impact driver is one of mans greatest ever discoveries.

DK

My small 3/8 Milwaukee impact driver is great for this sort of thing.

It's weak enough to be non-destructive & the bits grab otherwise destroyed fasteners.

Dan
Machinery has a mysterious soul and a mind of its own.