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Hook#3287
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« on: July 07, 2015, 04:14:25 PM »

(Meant to post this in the General Board but messed up uglystupid2,  Can't change it)


At least I feel it did.

I was leading a small group of riders and we had just pulled out of a side road on to a two lane main route.

Traffic was slightly heavy and I pulled behind 4 or 5 cars.  

I was looking in my mirror to see if everyone got out, when 3 cars up, the driver decided to take a left abruptly.

All of a sudden the bumper of car #3 was coming up fast.  Shocked

I pulled in the clutch lever and hit the brakes.

The front end dived and the Austone locked up.

That flat tire kept the bike upright and straight with a slight controllable fish tail.

And a squeal.  

I could feel the ATT biting the tar.

I'm convinced the Austone stopped me faster and safer then a M/C tire could have.

New lesson learned, I don't care if everyone makes it out, I'll wait at the next turn or light.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2015, 04:24:36 PM »

Glad ya still got your bacon Hook!
Couple Sundays ago we came home from VT
in the rain, we ran I-91 for 80 miles at 85-90 mph.
The ATT felt great, lovin it!

Don't forget I owe ya lunch...
Craig
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desertrefugee
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2015, 04:45:43 PM »

Conventional wisdom sometimes says that pulling the clutch in is not the right thing to do in an emergency stop situation.  The trick is to avoid lockup.  Clutch in and hard on the brake almost assures it.

Still, the fact that you're telling the tale is a testament to your riding skills.  (I've been considering darksiding it - when my Avon  gives up).
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2015, 04:51:52 PM »

Glad ya still got your bacon Hook!
Couple Sundays ago we came home from VT
in the rain, we ran I-91 for 80 miles at 85-90 mph.
The ATT felt great, lovin it!

Don't forget I owe ya lunch...
Craig

Don't worry, I ain't forgot.  That Sunday SUCKED!  You get them shocks fixed up?

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Hook#3287
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 04:57:57 PM »

Conventional wisdom sometimes says that pulling the clutch in is not the right thing to do in an emergency stop situation.  The trick is to avoid lockup.  Clutch in and hard on the brake almost assures it.

Still, the fact that you're telling the tale is a testament to your riding skills.  (I've been considering darksiding it - when my Avon  gives up).

Never been conventional.  And wisdom? Huh?

Experience and instinct prevailed.  My instinct was to hit the brakes, hard, and experience made me pull in the clutch, so not to stall.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »

Nope, no time, I've had the use of a backhoe the last week or so.
Yards looking better. long way to go.
they are on my list though  lol
Craig
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 06:19:47 PM »

Conventional wisdom sometimes says that pulling the clutch in is not the right thing to do in an emergency stop situation.  The trick is to avoid lockup.  Clutch in and hard on the brake almost assures it.

Still, the fact that you're telling the tale is a testament to your riding skills.  (I've been considering darksiding it - when my Avon  gives up).

Never been conventional.  And wisdom? Huh?

Experience and instinct prevailed.  My instinct was to hit the brakes, hard, and experience made me pull in the clutch, so not to stall.

I do it the same way.  In a locked brakes, almost sliding emergency stop, a stalled engine locked up in gear could add juddering instability near the end of the hard stop.  But it's got to be instinct;  if you're thinking about it, it slows your reaction time. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2015, 06:40:55 PM »

              " locked brakes, almost sliding emergency stop "            coolsmiley
                 why do ya'll put yerselves in a fix like that ?       Undecided
                  some weird perversion there ...  2funny
                   
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2015, 06:43:56 PM »

Conventional wisdom sometimes says that pulling the clutch in is not the right thing to do in an emergency stop situation.  The trick is to avoid lockup.  Clutch in and hard on the brake almost assures it.

Still, the fact that you're telling the tale is a testament to your riding skills.  (I've been considering darksiding it - when my Avon  gives up).

Never been conventional.  And wisdom? Huh?

Experience and instinct prevailed.  My instinct was to hit the brakes, hard, and experience made me pull in the clutch, so not to stall.

I do it the same way.  In a locked brakes, almost sliding emergency stop, a stalled engine locked up in gear could add juddering instability near the end of the hard stop.  But it's got to be instinct;  if you're thinking about it, it slows your reaction time. 
+2 Glad you made it Bill. And I agree you can always wait down the road for them.  cooldude
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2015, 02:38:18 AM »

              " locked brakes, almost sliding emergency stop "            coolsmiley
                 why do ya'll put yerselves in a fix like that ?       Undecided
                  some weird perversion there ...  2funny
                   

Not sure what weird perversion means to you, but usually it's sexualy related Cheesy

No time to think "I need to NOT lock up the tire".  Locking the rear only and using the front to control and stop is from my dirt bike days.  Maybe not the conventional wise and optimum street bike procedure, but with the Austone, it worked.
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