Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans

[crow]

You can't invite people to the party and then punch them in the face when they get there.    Just saying

[baldo]

I don't know that I'd call his supporters "stupid".  I think "shortsighted" would be more accurate.  Trump is telling folks what they want to hear right now and people are forgetting that his real agenda is, and always has been, himself.  Of course, that's true of most politicians, but Trump has an egomaniacal streak that is almost unparalleled.  Think of all the people that he's gotten into feud's with over the years because they've bruised his fragile ego.  Imagine if they were world leaders.  I can see it now - he'll end up nuking some small country when they make fun of his toupee.  Not good.  To live in Trump's America will be to live by his rules.  No thanks. 

Absolutely, well said. Trump is a buffoon, and that's putting it nicely. He's just one boneheaded comment away from being yesterday's news. I find it VERY amusing that he's leading the charge on the other side. Maybe we could sell squares to see when he falls from grace. He did the same thing the last time he ran.

Could this be the one that starts his looooonnnggg slow slide?....https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/donald-trump-supports-hunter-killed-cecil-lion-pay-legal-susan-kehoe

[..]

I don't know that I'd call his supporters "stupid".  I think "shortsighted" would be more accurate.  Trump is telling folks what they want to hear right now and people are forgetting that his real agenda is, and always has been, himself.  Of course, that's true of most politicians, but Trump has an egomaniacal streak that is almost unparalleled.  Think of all the people that he's gotten into feud's with over the years because they've bruised his fragile ego.  Imagine if they were world leaders.  I can see it now - he'll end up nuking some small country when they make fun of his toupee.  Not good.  To live in Trump's America will be to live by his rules.  No thanks.  

Absolutely, well said. Trump is a buffoon, and that's putting it nicely. He's just one boneheaded comment away from being yesterday's news. I find it VERY amusing that he's leading the charge on the other side. Maybe we could sell squares to see when he falls from grace. He did the same thing the last time he ran.

Could this be the one that starts his looooonnnggg slow slide?....https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/donald-trump-supports-hunter-killed-cecil-lion-pay-legal-susan-kehoe

If you read all of that link information and believe it I can only imagine that you too have been out in the wild eating marijuana plants shoulder to shoulder with Cecil  

[hubcapsc]

I don't know that I'd call his supporters "stupid".  I think "shortsighted" would be more accurate.  Trump is telling folks what they want to hear right now and people are forgetting that his real agenda is, and always has been, himself.  Of course, that's true of most politicians, but Trump has an egomaniacal streak that is almost unparalleled.  Think of all the people that he's gotten into feud's with over the years because they've bruised his fragile ego.  Imagine if they were world leaders.  I can see it now - he'll end up nuking some small country when they make fun of his toupee.  Not good.  To live in Trump's America will be to live by his rules.  No thanks. 

Absolutely, well said. Trump is a buffoon, and that's putting it nicely. He's just one boneheaded comment away from being yesterday's news. I find it VERY amusing that he's leading the charge on the other side. Maybe we could sell squares to see when he falls from grace. He did the same thing the last time he ran.

Could this be the one that starts his looooonnnggg slow slide?....https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/donald-trump-supports-hunter-killed-cecil-lion-pay-legal-susan-kehoe

In the normal lunatic fringe world where things are "saved" by being devalued, sure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/03/nation/la-na-nn-texas-antelope20120403

-Mike

[Serk]

Another interesting observation on The Donald Phenomenon:

The more he is attacked, the more people like him.

This could get very interesting.

[Rams]

Another interesting observation on The Donald Phenomenon:

The more he is attacked, the more people like him.

This could get very interesting.

Why do you think that is.   

My personal opinion is that most folks, especially "conservatives" no longer trust the media and politicians.    They been lied to so much they don't believe anything a politician says and very few trust what the media tells us.   

Trump is obviously not a politician and the media hates him.     I don't know if Trump is electable but, he sure as hell beats what we've had the last 6+ years and what the dems are trying to offer up.    Hillary "What's it matter now" Clinton has a huge integrity issue and Joe Biden has always been considered proof that the "Peter Principle" is in fact, accurate.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Another interesting observation on The Donald Phenomenon:

The more he is attacked, the more people like him.

This could get very interesting.

Why do you think that is.   

My personal opinion is that most folks, especially "conservatives" no longer trust the media and politicians.    They been lied to so much they don't believe anything a politician says and very few trust what the media tells us.   

Trump is obviously not a politician and the media hates him.     I don't know if Trump is electable but, he sure as hell beats what we've had the last 6+ years and what the dems are trying to offer up.    Hillary "What's it matter now" Clinton has a huge integrity issue and Joe Biden has always been considered proof that the "Peter Principle" is in fact, accurate.   

I think you are correct in that people don't trust politicians or media. I'm not so sure that the media hates the Donald. They love a good story and he is a good story.

[Rams]

Another interesting observation on The Donald Phenomenon:

The more he is attacked, the more people like him.

This could get very interesting.

Why do you think that is.   

My personal opinion is that most folks, especially "conservatives" no longer trust the media and politicians.    They been lied to so much they don't believe anything a politician says and very few trust what the media tells us.   

Trump is obviously not a politician and the media hates him.     I don't know if Trump is electable but, he sure as hell beats what we've had the last 6+ years and what the dems are trying to offer up.    Hillary "What's it matter now" Clinton has a huge integrity issue and Joe Biden has always been considered proof that the "Peter Principle" is in fact, accurate.   

I think you are correct in that people don't trust politicians or media. I'm not so sure that the media hates the Donald. They love a good story and he is a good story.

Consider this, regardless of who you are, there is almost always something good and bad to report by any news organization.     Agreed?    Now, consider the number of damning stories versus good stories produced about Trump.    I'm still not convinced he's electable but, it's pretty obvious the media is not endorsing him.     

Someone once said, follow the money.    I believe most if not all of the other options represent a better return on investment than Trump to the media.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well yes there is no doubt they are not endorsing him. But I think they might be enjoying the circus events.

[Pappy!]

Talk about Circus events!......HIllary is definitely the dancing Monkey these days trying to brush off all the scandals surrounding her.

[therapist]

I would not call Trump supporters stupid, but if you are a conservative and support him, you are
uninformed.

From Yahoo Politics-

"For most of the past decade Trump was a “strongly pro-choice” Democrat who donated the majority of his $1.3 million in political contributions to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid while supporting “massive tax increases on the wealthy” and “a Canadian-style single-payer health care system,” (as conservative columnist Peter Wehner recently put it.) It also means confronting him about his near-treasonous refusal to rule out a third party run, which would almost certainly spoil the GOP’s chances of winning back the White House in 2016."

[Wizzard]

I would not call Trump supporters stupid, but if you are a conservative and support him, you are
uninformed.

From Yahoo Politics-

"For most of the past decade Trump was a “strongly pro-choice” Democrat who donated the majority of his $1.3 million in political contributions to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid while supporting “massive tax increases on the wealthy” and “a Canadian-style single-payer health care system,” (as conservative columnist Peter Wehner recently put it.) It also means confronting him about his near-treasonous refusal to rule out a third party run, which would almost certainly spoil the GOP’s chances of winning back the White House in 2016."

I used to agree with this but I do not think its necessarily true anymore. Enough people are fed up with both parties that one of these days an third party may have a chance.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would not call Trump supporters stupid, but if you are a conservative and support him, you are
uninformed.

From Yahoo Politics-

"For most of the past decade Trump was a “strongly pro-choice” Democrat who donated the majority of his $1.3 million in political contributions to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid while supporting “massive tax increases on the wealthy” and “a Canadian-style single-payer health care system,” (as conservative columnist Peter Wehner recently put it.) It also means confronting him about his near-treasonous refusal to rule out a third party run, which would almost certainly spoil the GOP’s chances of winning back the White House in 2016."

And he was for gun control. But I THINK it has more to do with his personality of saying F.U. to everyone more than his positions.

[G-Man]

You keep telling yourself you lost because you didn't offer free crap 

Then how come every democrat campaign stresses and laments that the other guys are gonna take the people's stuff away?  EVERY!  "They're gonna take away your social security." "They're gonna take away your healthcare."  "They're gonna take away your free phone".  "They're gonna take away your (fill in the blank)".

If the free stuff isn't so important, why pound it into the people that the other guys are gonna take the free stuff away?

[Wizzard]

You keep telling yourself you lost because you didn't offer free crap 

Then how come every democrat campaign stresses and laments that the other guys are gonna take the people's stuff away?  EVERY!  "They're gonna take away your social security." "They're gonna take away your healthcare."  "They're gonna take away your free phone".  "They're gonna take away your (fill in the blank)".

If the free stuff isn't so important, why pound it into the people that the other guys are gonna take the free stuff away?

[The emperor has no clothes]

You keep telling yourself you lost because you didn't offer free crap 

Then how come every democrat campaign stresses and laments that the other guys are gonna take the people's stuff away?  EVERY!  "They're gonna take away your social security." "They're gonna take away your healthcare."  "They're gonna take away your free phone".  "They're gonna take away your (fill in the blank)".

If the free stuff isn't so important, why pound it into the people that the other guys are gonna take the free stuff away?

You do realize in a political campaign one of the goals is to make the other guy look worse than you ? They all do it.   

[baldo]

You keep telling yourself you lost because you didn't offer free crap 

Then how come every democrat campaign stresses and laments that the other guys are gonna take the people's stuff away?  EVERY!  "They're gonna take away your social security." "They're gonna take away your healthcare."  "They're gonna take away your free phone".  "They're gonna take away your (fill in the blank)".

If the free stuff isn't so important, why pound it into the people that the other guys are gonna take the free stuff away?

If you do some research, I don't think you'll find a Democrat campaigning to cut your SS benefits. You know, the money that you and everyone else has paid into since you were a kid?

And to get back to your post. Are you ok with the R's that DO want to take it away?

Healthcare..do you really want to beat that dead horse again?

Free phones? I think you're referring to the program started by Reagan in the 80's....

Google is your friend.

[Rams]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.    I'd be interested to know the demographics of the voters that went with him.   

[sixlow]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.    I'd be interested to know the demographics of the voters that went with him.   

I have wondered that myself, I don't know but one person who did vote for Obama, I would swear it was a fixed election all along.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.    I'd be interested to know the demographics of the voters that went with him.   

I have wondered that myself, I don't know but one person who did vote for Obama, I would swear it was a fixed election all along.

Really ? either you've been living in the bubble or they just don't want to discuss it with you. 

[Rams]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.    I'd be interested to know the demographics of the voters that went with him.   

I have wondered that myself, I don't know but one person who did vote for Obama, I would swear it was a fixed election all along.

Really ? either you've been living in the bubble or they just don't want to discuss it with you. 

In reference to the thread title, I don't know what the education level was of those who supported Obama, do you?

[hubcapsc]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.    I'd be interested to know the demographics of the voters that went with him.   

I have wondered that myself, I don't know but one person who did vote for Obama, I would swear it was a fixed election all along.

Really ? either you've been living in the bubble or they just don't want to discuss it with you. 

In reference to the thread title, I don't know what the education level was of those who supported Obama, do you?

This place has a demographic chart like this for many election years...

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

[98valk]

Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans


The more I think about this thread title, the more I wonder exactly who put Obama in the White House.   

UN backed and so is demonHill.

[Rams]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

Sources:

“Exit polls 2012: How the vote has shifted.” The Washington Post November 6, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/table.html>.

“Presidential Race – 2012 Election Center.” CNN December 10, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president>.

Notes:

Final exit poll results from interviews of randomly selected voters as they exited voting places across the country on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin polls included telephone interviews with early voters. The
 poll was conducted by Edison Media Research for the National Election Pool, The Washington Post and other media organizations. Typical characteristics have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Not sure I trust the accuracy of any poll conducted by the Washington Post, their bias is pretty clear.   I see the Univ. of Connecticut was also involved, more reason to doubt the results regardless of what they indicate.     While in college, I took some classes that required polling and surveys.     It's pretty easy to skew the end results if you want to.    Sorry but, I don't trust liberal institutions or the media.

[slabghost]

Even education is not a cure for stupid. There is no cure.
Wisdom and maturity come with age. However in many cases age arrives alone.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

Sources:

“Exit polls 2012: How the vote has shifted.” The Washington Post November 6, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/table.html>.

“Presidential Race – 2012 Election Center.” CNN December 10, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president>.

Notes:

Final exit poll results from interviews of randomly selected voters as they exited voting places across the country on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin polls included telephone interviews with early voters. The
 poll was conducted by Edison Media Research for the National Election Pool, The Washington Post and other media organizations. Typical characteristics have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Not sure I trust the accuracy of any poll conducted by the Washington Post, their bias is pretty clear.   I see the Univ. of Connecticut was also involved, more reason to doubt the results regardless of what they indicate.     While in college, I took some classes that required polling and surveys.     It's pretty easy to skew the end results if you want to.    Sorry but, I don't trust liberal institutions or the media.

So what do you think the education levels are ?

[Jersey mike]

just vote "None of the Above"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXEglx-or6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9gcqiIfw8E

[czuch]

They cherry picked the poll. He was preferable to all demographics. They only highlited the high school and less crowd to make the Donald look un-electable.
This is a lark for him.
 I dont think he really wants the reins afterall, its gonna be FUBAR for the next guy.
Look how the current has tore it up.
Restrictions on emmissions and such going out to 2030.
Iran nightmare.
Iraq/Afghanistan nightmare.
Putin.
Et Al.

[Rams]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

Sources:

“Exit polls 2012: How the vote has shifted.” The Washington Post November 6, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/table.html>.

“Presidential Race – 2012 Election Center.” CNN December 10, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president>.

Notes:

Final exit poll results from interviews of randomly selected voters as they exited voting places across the country on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin polls included telephone interviews with early voters. The
 poll was conducted by Edison Media Research for the National Election Pool, The Washington Post and other media organizations. Typical characteristics have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Not sure I trust the accuracy of any poll conducted by the Washington Post, their bias is pretty clear.   I see the Univ. of Connecticut was also involved, more reason to doubt the results regardless of what they indicate.     While in college, I took some classes that required polling and surveys.     It's pretty easy to skew the end results if you want to.    Sorry but, I don't trust liberal institutions or the media.

So what do you think the education levels are ?

Honestly, I would expect a much lower average education based on my own personal experiences.    That could be skewed also though.   I know I have not met every liberal and socialist out there.   But the ones I have met seem to think Eutopia is just around the corner and some one else is going to pay for it.

[baldo]

I don't know that I'd call his supporters "stupid".  I think "shortsighted" would be more accurate.  Trump is telling folks what they want to hear right now and people are forgetting that his real agenda is, and always has been, himself.  Of course, that's true of most politicians, but Trump has an egomaniacal streak that is almost unparalleled.  Think of all the people that he's gotten into feud's with over the years because they've bruised his fragile ego.  Imagine if they were world leaders.  I can see it now - he'll end up nuking some small country when they make fun of his toupee.  Not good.  To live in Trump's America will be to live by his rules.  No thanks. 

Absolutely, well said. Trump is a buffoon, and that's putting it nicely. He's just one boneheaded comment away from being yesterday's news. I find it VERY amusing that he's leading the charge on the other side. Maybe we could sell squares to see when he falls from grace. He did the same thing the last time he ran.

Could this be the one that starts his looooonnnggg slow slide?....https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/donald-trump-supports-hunter-killed-cecil-lion-pay-legal-susan-kehoe

Well, that didn't take long......http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-drawing-fire-from-all-corners-of-gop_55c668dde4b0f73b20b9937e?od8ia4i

Who had the two day square?

[Bighead]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

Sources:

“Exit polls 2012: How the vote has shifted.” The Washington Post November 6, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/table.html>.

“Presidential Race – 2012 Election Center.” CNN December 10, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president>.

Notes:

Final exit poll results from interviews of randomly selected voters as they exited voting places across the country on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin polls included telephone interviews with early voters. The
 poll was conducted by Edison Media Research for the National Election Pool, The Washington Post and other media organizations. Typical characteristics have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Not sure I trust the accuracy of any poll conducted by the Washington Post, their bias is pretty clear.   I see the Univ. of Connecticut was also involved, more reason to doubt the results regardless of what they indicate.     While in college, I took some classes that required polling and surveys.     It's pretty easy to skew the end results if you want to.    Sorry but, I don't trust liberal institutions or the media.

So what do you think the education levels are ?

Honestly, I would expect a much lower average education based on my own personal experiences.    That could be skewed also though.   I know I have not met every liberal and socialist out there.   But the ones I have met seem to think Eutopia is just around the corner and some one else is going to pay for it.

Ron an education does NOT make one smart!

[RP#62]

[/quote]
Ron an education does NOT make one smart!
[/quote]

In fact, some people are educated beyond their intelligence.

-RP

[Bighead]

Well beyond their intelligence.

[Warlock]

I use to read these post and get really pi$$ed off. We can sling words, post web sites, pay more taxes than most earn, but the bottom line is no post is going to change your mind on who you like and will vote for. The country is in a mess and I hope the next president can start putting us back on track before it is too late.
David

[Rams]

I don't. I'm not sure how one could determine the education level of 140 million voters .
Well Hubcap knows how. 
Looks to be pretty equal in education levels.

Sources:

“Exit polls 2012: How the vote has shifted.” The Washington Post November 6, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/2012-exit-polls/table.html>.

“Presidential Race – 2012 Election Center.” CNN December 10, 2012. January 10, 2013 <http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president>.

Notes:

Final exit poll results from interviews of randomly selected voters as they exited voting places across the country on Tuesday, November 6, 2012. Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin polls included telephone interviews with early voters. The
 poll was conducted by Edison Media Research for the National Election Pool, The Washington Post and other media organizations. Typical characteristics have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.

Not sure I trust the accuracy of any poll conducted by the Washington Post, their bias is pretty clear.   I see the Univ. of Connecticut was also involved, more reason to doubt the results regardless of what they indicate.     While in college, I took some classes that required polling and surveys.     It's pretty easy to skew the end results if you want to.    Sorry but, I don't trust liberal institutions or the media.

So what do you think the education levels are ?

Honestly, I would expect a much lower average education based on my own personal experiences.    That could be skewed also though.   I know I have not met every liberal and socialist out there.   But the ones I have met seem to think Eutopia is just around the corner and some one else is going to pay for it.

Ron an education does NOT make one smart!

As one of the higher educated idiots, I'm fully aware of that.     As I said, based on my own personal experience, I have a hard time accepting the demographics indicated on that site.    I tend to agree that there was some cherry picking going on.

[baldo]

I use to read these post and get really pi$$ed off. We can sling words, post web sites, pay more taxes than most earn, but the bottom line is no post is going to change your mind on who you like and will vote for. The country is in a mess and I hope the next president can start putting us back on track before it is too late.
David

Well said, but I think we might have a difference of opinion as to the state of mess we're in.

[G-Man]

You keep telling yourself you lost because you didn't offer free crap 

Then how come every democrat campaign stresses and laments that the other guys are gonna take the people's stuff away?  EVERY!  "They're gonna take away your social security." "They're gonna take away your healthcare."  "They're gonna take away your free phone".  "They're gonna take away your (fill in the blank)".

If the free stuff isn't so important, why pound it into the people that the other guys are gonna take the free stuff away?

If you do some research, I don't think you'll find a Democrat campaigning to cut your SS benefits. You know, the money that you and everyone else has paid into since you were a kid?

And to get back to your post. Are you ok with the R's that DO want to take it away?

Healthcare..do you really want to beat that dead horse again?

Free phones? I think you're referring to the program started by Reagan in the 80's....

Google is your friend.

Nope, the Democrats don't say they're gonna take things away from the deserving, they sneak things in like the 700 BILION taken from Medicare on page 1,293,980,234 of the ACA.  They take from those that pay/paid all the time in one form or another, but they never tell you this up front, because the voters are too stupid, remember??  If they knew what the Democrat legislation really was, they'd never get it passed, so they write things in a convoluted, long form manner to confuse even those who are voting for it, and then wind up peter-panning over and over again.  And they admitted this, but supporters like you ignore the reality of it all and fall in line with blaming the other guys for their ill-actions.

[baldo]

Got some sort of proof to back this up? Or is it just the general consensus of the other side of the tracks, just shootin from the hip? Please, feel free to be specific.

[slabghost]

they sneak things in like the 700 BILION taken from Medicare on page 1,293,980,234 of the ACA.

Looks pretty specific to me.