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98valk
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« on: August 06, 2015, 06:01:50 PM »

Bryan Hult another UN marxist and doesn't even know it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IDAHO_VETERAN_GUN_PROTEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-06-19-54-26

A group of residents in northern Idaho lined up outside a U.S. Navy veteran's house on Thursday to protest claims that federal officials are planning on confiscating the man's weapons.

Idaho Republican state Rep. Heather Scott of Blanchard said the Veteran Affairs office has sent a letter to John Arnold of Priest River warning him that he cannot possess or purchase firearms.

The protest -spearheaded by Scott- attracted roughly 100 people. Among them were Bonner County Sheriff Daryl Wheeler, who promised to stand guard against any federal attempts to remove Arnold's guns, and Republican Washington state Rep. Matthew Shea of Spokane Valley, who described the event as a "defiance against tyranny."

"I took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and uphold the laws of Idaho," Wheeler said. "This seemed appropriate to show my support. I was going to make sure Mr. Arnold's rights weren't going to be breached."

During Thursday's demonstration, the group at times broke out in song to sing "God Bless America" and pray while waving both the American flag and the "Don't tread on me" flag. With a population of just 1,700, Priest River is near the tip of northern Idaho- a region known for its strong tea party roots and gun-rights activism.

Scott was one of the key lawmakers during this year's Legislature who helped sink legislation that would have put Idaho in compliance with federal child support laws. Doing so put Idaho at threat of losing millions of federal dollars and resources, and required the Idaho Legislature to meet for a special session, at which the state finally passed the legislation.

Arnold did not immediately respond to calls from The Associated Press.

Veteran Affairs spokesman Bret Bowers confirmed a letter had been sent to Arnold from the VA's benefits office in Salt Lake City, but he said that VA policy prohibits discussing individual health records without consent. Bowers added that the agency doesn't have the authority to confiscate weapons.

"We don't send officers to confiscate weapons. We are about providing health care to veterans," he said.

Currently, the Veterans Affairs Department can bar veterans from purchasing guns if they are declared incompetent. However, this authority has been criticized by Second Amendment advocates. Most recently, Republican U.S. Sen. John Cornyn of Texas proposed legislation that would require court action before barring gun purchases by veterans declared incompetent.

"This does happen sometimes, where the VA sends out a letter," said Bryan Hult, veteran services officer for Bonner County. "Especially if a veteran has dementia ... and a fiduciary has to be appointed to manage finances like a pension and income. You wouldn't want that person to be in possession of a gun."
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 06:41:03 PM »

Glad to see the sheriff stood up in protest. cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 06:42:41 AM »

We don't know the reason why the VA physician or committee came to their decision.

We keep saying that it's not the gun, it's the person, and then the debate between mental health and disarming America begins.

Everyone, from any walk of life can suffer from a deterioration of their mental health, even veterans.  We've heard so much about vets and PTSD.  Maybe the VA is trying to get out in front of something.  We don't know. 

Let's say the vet said something to a physician about wanting to hurt other people.  The VA steps in and nobody gets hurt.  There's no way to measure lives saved, only lost, after it's too late.  This is just me speaking out loud.  Why would the VA single one person out?  Again, we don't know the vets medical and/or psychiatric history.  The VA won't release it, but the vet can if he feels he's being wronged. 
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 08:40:11 AM »

First, this is not VA doing this on their own initiative, but rather stems from yet another edict from the head socialist's office (and his quarter million socialist government regulator employees) which VA is bound to follow. (Since VA is now perpetually in deep crap for one reason or another, they will do whatever they are told.)

Second, there is nothing in the article discussing the basis for this veteran being declared incompetent to handle his funds.  That so many (including police) are supporting him seems to show this is bureaucratic overreach, but until you read his medical record and his financial competency adjudication, there is no way to make an informed opinion on whether this was a wise and just decision or just a knee-jerk automatic regulatory decision.  

Note to gun owners.... do not mishandle your government funds to the point someone wants to appoint a fiduciary to handle your funds in your behalf.  And do not seek any form of mental health treatment or counseling or medication.... except from your local bartender, friends and family (and be careful of your friends and family).  And never reveal the existence of any firearms in any medical questionnaire or interview.  (do not say it's none of your business, just say NO/NONE) 
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 11:03:31 AM »

Jess-iffin I'm reading this right you want us to lie?  Roll Eyes Oh-wait-deception central lies to us every second of every day!  cooldude O k-werx fer me !  2funny RIDE SAFE.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2015, 11:52:31 AM »

Jess-iffin I'm reading this right you want us to lie?  Roll Eyes Oh-wait-deception central lies to us every second of every day!  cooldude O k-werx fer me !  2funny RIDE SAFE.

It's not really lying, what it is is (LOL), an abbreviation of the truth... None that you need to know about.  None of you're cursed business.
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98valk
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2015, 12:10:37 PM »

Jess-iffin I'm reading this right you want us to lie?  Roll Eyes Oh-wait-deception central lies to us every second of every day!  cooldude O k-werx fer me !  2funny RIDE SAFE.

It's not really lying, what it is is (LOL), an abbreviation of the truth... None that you need to know about.  None of you're cursed business.

as George said "its only a lie if u think its a lie"
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