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« on: August 10, 2015, 12:35:09 PM »

Now I am kind of shooting from the hip on this. Now whether Donald, would be a good fit for the job, probably not. Now in my opinion, and based on my observation and experiences, I get the feeling there are people that fear him. He may be a big mouth and a blow hard, but I think Donald can’t be bought, and maybe a true American as he says.  I don’t think that he would set well in DC, if you are not a puppet. I understand, there are people that are just blatantly stupid out there, but I don’t think Donald is one of them. He is very resilient and resourceful.  The guy tell it like it is, and how he truly feels without worrying about repercussions, till he is confronted with them.  I think there are people that are very nervous out there, about him gaining steam as he has, and there will many attempts to politically assonate his career in politics. See they don’t need another Kennedy mind set in DC.  The truth is we all have flaws, and make mistakes, and things don’t always come out perfect like we want to see, but that’s is life.
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 12:41:03 PM »

Really the only problem the Donald has is, he's running out of people to insult.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 01:08:28 PM »

What it will boil down to is that real Americans LOVE a winner and hate whiners. Trump is unapologetic and the others seem to whine and whine about Trump.

Can't say I'm a Trump fan yet, but he is growing on me.

His reputation of self promotion is what has me being rather reserved in my opinion of him as of now.
Is he making this run as a shameless grab at personal publicity or is this a real and heartfelt run at trying to turn this country around?
The jury is still out on this one for me. But as I said, he's growing on me.

His refusal to apologize for things he isn't wrong about is refreshing.
He goes out there, kicks ass and takes names.

Maybe we should have a President like that someday.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 01:14:29 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 01:33:45 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

Isn't it usually the job of the right to bring religion into politics, not the left? Wink

And he's definitely made mistakes, right up there near the top was trying to run a casino with an all you can eat buffet in the home state of Chris Christie...

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 01:39:47 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

Look at the one in office now, he tells you the way its going to be, appears not having a clue, and making a mess of things, and seems he can't be honest, who he believes in. Going to leave office, for some poor sap having to clean it up his mess.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 01:48:54 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

Isn't it usually the job of the right to bring religion into politics, not the left? Wink

And he's definitely made mistakes, right up there near the top was trying to run a casino with an all you can eat buffet in the home state of Chris Christie...


Hey, just cause you've lost all that weight doesn't mean you can make Chris Christie jokes  2funny
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 01:52:35 PM »

I know a good number of folks that have never been wrong and therefore have never made a mistake.  So Donald ain't alone.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 01:58:08 PM »

I know a good number of folks that have never been wrong and therefore have never made a mistake.  So Donald ain't alone.
Nope, I'm the only one in that category  Roll Eyes  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 02:37:04 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

Isn't it usually the job of the right to bring religion into politics, not the left? Wink

And he's definitely made mistakes, right up there near the top was trying to run a casino with an all you can eat buffet in the home state of Chris Christie...


Hey, just cause you've lost all that weight doesn't mean you can make Chris Christie jokes  2funny

Wish I could claim credit for that one, but that was Trump's reply I read somewhere... Wink

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 02:53:47 PM »

I get the feeling there are people that fear him. He may be a big mouth and a blow hard, but I think Donald can’t be bought, and maybe a true American as he says.   I think there are people that are very nervous out there, about him gaining steam as he has, and there will many attempts to politically assonate his career in politics.

Well....the first two questions were directly aimed at Trump's jugular.  Do you think that wasn't by design?
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 04:12:02 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

And exactly how many apologies has Obama issued, about HIS mistakes and wrong doings?  Seems to me he has said EVERYTHING he has done in office is correct.

I realize he has issued MANY apologies about what the US has done in the past, and that HE felt were wrong.

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 06:07:10 PM »

and there will many attempts to politically assonate his career in politics.
I'm not sure I want to know how one becomes ASSONATED  2funny
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 06:36:40 PM »

and there will many attempts to politically assonate his career in politics.
I'm not sure I want to know how one becomes ASSONATED  2funny
 Toss them in prison
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 07:04:10 PM »

and there will many attempts to politically assonate his career in politics.
I'm not sure I want to know how one becomes ASSONATED  2funny

OOOOOOoooooo  I love new words! And that is a GOODun

Mr. Trump has been constantly politically Assonated in the media. He has assonated them right back.

Obama is a political assonate.

I love it! It works. We don't really have a definition but we know exactly what it means!

Well done Dreamaker. Well done.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 08:39:42 PM »

Isn't it kind of telling of ones personality that he has never done ANYTHING wrong that he should apologize for or need to ask forgiveness from god ?

Well, except for the God part it almost sounds like that left wing idiot, Hillary!
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 09:19:01 PM »

I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm not a Trump supporter (yet).    I will support whomever is running against Hildebeast.    Regardless, this was shared with me this evening and I thought it was interesting.    I'm not suggesting it's factual but then, at least we know where Trumps server is.    Where's Hildebeast's?

Without further explanation, here's some interesting stuff.   Believe what you will, I can't control that.



He didn't get to be a Billionaire by being stupid with no common sense... 

This is a worthwhile read that you won’t see on tonight's news. Read all of it, you may be surprised of the content.   

If you don’t have time to read this – then don’t complain about how things are in America! 

What Do We Really Know About Trump’s Plan for America?

The Horse Sense Blog compares the nonsense in today’s news with good ol’ fashioned horse sense. 

Here’s the Nonsense: Donald Trump is too outspoken, flamboyant, irreverent, and has hair ​that ​I hate ​for me ​to consider​ him a serious candidate for president. We need to force him out of the race immediately. 

Here’s the Horse Sense: Trump may be all of those things, but speaking your mind has historically been something Americans take pride in. We need to know more about his plans for America before we make a decision about him. And as for his hair, if you judge people based on their hair, weight, ​skin color, the way they dress, or anything else that says nothing about their character or ability, then you need to look in a mirror to see the real fool. 

The media, politicians from both parties, political pundits, and ​many ​talk show hosts are leading the charge to attack ​and/or discount ​Donald Trump’s run for the White House. Criticisms of the most superficial things control the conversation. Leftist groups have mounted campaigns to have those who do business with him quit doing so. Yet with all the criticism and threats, Trump not only doesn’t back down, the stronger he stands the more his poll numbers rise. ​​ And through it all there seems to be no constructive arguments against Trump. ​ 

We’re seeing no attacks on his plans for America. No denial of the truths he’s speaking, just attacks twisting his words through a politically correct filter. But Americans who aren’t involved in the day-to-day world of politics and reporting on it​,​ or who aren’t members of the politically correct class​,​ are hearing from Trump the words that they themselves think. He is willing to say what they think and not back down when confronted. He’s rapidly becoming a modern day icon with John Wayne strength that Americans look up to. 

Americans are tired of always losing. 

Since World War II we’ve never fought a war to win. We see our soldiers come home to tell us ​about the “rules of engagement”​ they must follow and that don’t give them a fighting chance, let alone allow them to fight to win. 

Our jobs have been lost to foreign countries. 

Our economy is faltering. 

Our children are getting education on a level lower than anytime in American history. Most of our college graduates today would have a hard time passing high school exams from the middle of the 20th century. Our educational institutions have become nothing more than indoctrination camps to teach our children how bad America is and how it must be changed. 

All this and more cause Americans to be very ​weary of what’s happened in our country. Americans want a winner who is willing to fight for them. And when Donald Trump says, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” the American people rise up and cheer. This is a message they yearn for deep in their hearts. 

The criticisms of Trump are amazingly​ missing something. They are​ lacking in ​negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity​ than people may think​. 

And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to help him and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others. 

But as much​ as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won’t do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trumps positions and plans: 

1.)  Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so.  If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help.  Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life.  He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred.  He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries. 

2.)  Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again.  He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense.  He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be.  While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle.  Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too. 

3.)  Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point): 
•American interests come first.  Always.  No apologies. 
•Maximum firepower and military preparedness. 
•Only go to war to win. 
•Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies. 
•Keep the technological sword razor sharp.. 
•See the unseen.  Prepare for threats before they materialize. 
•Respect and support our present and past warriors.

4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them. 

5.)  Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them.  He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here.  Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing.  For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here. 

6.)  Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws.  According to Trump, that would break up the cartel.  He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil. 

7.)  Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America.  He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.)  He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals. 

8.)  Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here.  The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy.  He wants to make America the place to do business.  He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends.  This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system.  He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed.   And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth.  He wants to change the personal income tax to: 

·            Up to $30,000 taxed at 1% 
·            From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5% 
·            From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10% 
·            $1,000,000 and above taxed at 15% 

9.)  Trump wants Obamacare repealed.  He says it’s a “job-killing, health care-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.”  He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down.  He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs. 

10.)  Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue.  He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. 

11.) Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security.  He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits.  Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients.  He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy.  On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government. 

12.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.”  He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare rolls and encourage people to get back to work.  And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud. 

13.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax. 

14.) Trump opposes Common Core. 

15.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother. 

16.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights. 

17.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a States' rights issue, not a federal issue. 

18.) Trump supports the death penalty.                                               

Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he believes in horse sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point: 

“When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events. Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. 

They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy. We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense.” 

On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time. 

Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. 

He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation. Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.” We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them. 

Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are long past due. Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 04:08:34 AM »

Be hard to argue with all of that, makes good sense. If he is what he says, then its time to take out the trash.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 06:09:50 AM »

Number 10!   I've been wondering about that for a while now.  24 trillion.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 07:26:33 AM »

The one in office now has this "Drinks and cash for everyone" mind set seem to be the one that got us there so far.
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