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(Hopefully) Last De-smog question...

Started by Walküre, Fri 14, Aug 2015, 12:16:31

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Walküre

I have my de-smog done, according to QueXpress (Normand in QUÉBEC). But, I was looking around at some of the ways others had handled the freeze plugs, and came across this picture. No real explanation, other than he had desmogged, and this is what he took off. My question is, the 6-legged gaggle of tubing, on the right side of the pictures. The notes I followed didn't mention those, and nothing else I have seen, has either. Is this pile of spaghetti safe to remove, and if you do, just plug the holes? Or, is the other poster possibly incorrect?

Can someone enlighten me? Picture is here:



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That picture appears to be from a California bike. Is yours also ?

Walküre

It came out of Iowa, but don't know where it started out. I can see those 6 lines, connect to intakes of each carb. If that canister is there, it would have to be down by swingarm.
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Walküre

Thanks. I still steer clear of General, but stick with tech section.

R
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John Schmidt

Those appear to be the six bowl drain lines. They should lead to a single line which dumps out underneath the bike behind the right side near the foot peg. A Cal. model will have that canister, others (49 state) models won't and the single drain goes directly under the bike. I'd leave them in place, helps if you ever drain the bowls, keeps raw gas off the engine.

BonS

In that picture the bowl drain tubes are on the lower left and they should, as John says, be left on the bike. The other six lines are only present, along with the canister, if your bike is a California bike.

Crackerborn

The charcoal cannister is from a CA bike. There is a link for CA bike de-smog in shoptalk. If I remember correcty (it has been a few years since I did mine) there are additional vacuum lines on the carbs to block on the CA Girl. As others have said, leave the overflow lines in place.
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Quote from: BonS on Fri 14, Aug 2015, 14:59:58
In that picture the bowl drain tubes are on the lower left and they should, as John says, be left on the bike. The other six lines are only present, along with the canister, if your bike is a California bike.
When I desmoged my standard I removed the bowl drain lines. I figure if I need to drain the carbs I can just hook a line to each one as I do it. Do you think there are any issues with doing that ?

Hook#3287

QuoteWhen I desmoged my standard I removed the bowl drain lines. I figure if I need to drain the carbs I can just hook a line to each one as I do it. Do you think there are any issues with doing that ?

Can't see any issue outside of it being a PITA to hook up the rubber lines.  If you never, or rarely, drain the lines, don't much matter.

Walküre

Quote from: Hook#3287 on Sat 15, Aug 2015, 05:21:19
QuoteWhen I desmoged my standard I removed the bowl drain lines. I figure if I need to drain the carbs I can just hook a line to each one as I do it. Do you think there are any issues with doing that ?

Can't see any issue outside of it being a PITA to hook up the rubber lines.  If you never, or rarely, drain the lines, don't much matter.

When you took them off, did you just use vacuum plugs?

Also, one more question (see, told'ja!). I am installing a Dan-Mark fuel shutoff. I found that the original spring-type clamps the factory used on the fuel lines, are pretty much one-use only. For anyone who has added one, did you use regular screw clamps? The inlets to the carb banks, seems pretty short, and tight, to try and get one on there. Any suitable alternative? I have some very high aircraft grade nylon zip-ties, thought about using them. Open to any and all suggestions...

DON'T want to have to open the whole thing up again, because of stupid mistakes...

R
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Michvalk

You should be able to get the spring clamps from Honda, as they are still using them. I'm not sure I would worry too much about leakage, but, those clamps are available if you need them :cooldude:

Walküre

Sadly, can't wait. I need to get this back together this weekend, as I am renting a car, so my daughter can drive my truck, until hers gets fixed. And I don't know how long that might be. So.....

I agree, though - everything is nice and snug, don't think it will leak, but think I'll use screw clamps where it's easy to get them on, and the nylon zips, where they aren't. As I said, they are mil-spec zips, with metal tang to hold them, etc. I think pulled tight, they will be every bit as good as the stock spring clamps.

Back to work, so much to do, so much to do!!

R
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Yeah, what she said...

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Quote from: Walküre on Sat 15, Aug 2015, 08:43:33
Quote from: Hook#3287 on Sat 15, Aug 2015, 05:21:19
QuoteWhen I desmoged my standard I removed the bowl drain lines. I figure if I need to drain the carbs I can just hook a line to each one as I do it. Do you think there are any issues with doing that ?

Can't see any issue outside of it being a PITA to hook up the rubber lines.  If you never, or rarely, drain the lines, don't much matter.

When you took them off, did you just use vacuum plugs?

Also, one more question (see, told'ja!). I am installing a Dan-Mark fuel shutoff. I found that the original spring-type clamps the factory used on the fuel lines, are pretty much one-use only. For anyone who has added one, did you use regular screw clamps? The inlets to the carb banks, seems pretty short, and tight, to try and get one on there. Any suitable alternative? I have some very high aircraft grade nylon zip-ties, thought about using them. Open to any and all suggestions...

DON'T want to have to open the whole thing up again, because of stupid mistakes...

R
On the removal of the carb drain lines I just left them alone. I never drain my carbs. On the lines to the Dan Marc I used the regular screw type clamps. The only problem I see with the zip ties would be removing them. Be careful to not damage the fuel lines.

PhredValk

I cut those back out of the way and squirted a load of silicone into each, twice. No problems since then. I also left the chrome tubes in place with silicone filled vacuum caps on them. Who want's to remove chrome?
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Quote from: Walküre on Sat 15, Aug 2015, 08:43:33
Quote from: Hook#3287 on Sat 15, Aug 2015, 05:21:19
QuoteWhen I desmoged my standard I removed the bowl drain lines. I figure if I need to drain the carbs I can just hook a line to each one as I do it. Do you think there are any issues with doing that ?

Can't see any issue outside of it being a PITA to hook up the rubber lines.  If you never, or rarely, drain the lines, don't much matter.

When you took them off, did you just use vacuum plugs?

Also, one more question (see, told'ja!). I am installing a Dan-Mark fuel shutoff. I found that the original spring-type clamps the factory used on the fuel lines, are pretty much one-use only. For anyone who has added one, did you use regular screw clamps? The inlets to the carb banks, seems pretty short, and tight, to try and get one on there. Any suitable alternative? I have some very high aircraft grade nylon zip-ties, thought about using them. Open to any and all suggestions...

DON'T want to have to open the whole thing up again, because of stupid mistakes...

R
I just did some work on my son's Bolt (Replace the gas tank) and they used the onetime use spring clamps on one of the hoses.  I happened to have some leftover 1/2" pex crimp clamps and the crimp tool and it worked perfectly.
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