I'm a YouTube internet star.

[BF]

I should get an agent so I can get some close up camera shots.  

I'm at 14/15 seconds in blue t-shirt.  My boss is the guy they interviewed in the white shirt.  

You can tell how much weight I've lost due to the chemo by looking at how baggy my jeans are now.      And my hair and beard are all white now from the chemo. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTvAPEmGNY

[Xtracho]

Cool! When's the autograph session? 

Hope you're doing well. Could kick myself that we're so close and haven't met yet. Gotta rectify that.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Yep, you are a star  I think you are correct. You need an agent.  . Hope you are doing better 

[wiggydotcom]

BF,
I think they only showed you for one second as a test to see if the audience could handle a heartthrob of your magnitude. You'll no doubt get lead billing next time.

Glad you are doing well!

[Atl-Jerry]

Why did they put that peculiar polka dot wrap on those trucks?  Anytime they spend money it must serve a purpose!

I spent most of July in Destin, almost didn't recognize the place(s).  Rode by the climate lab a few times, didn't look like anything going on......unlike much of the 80's.

[cookiedough]

sure are a lot of buttons in that room you are responsible for, do you know what all of them are for?

Yah,  if you turned and faced the camera,  a true START would be born! 


I also wonder about that wrap around the ford vehicles, wonder why?

Also wonder why they have a bra covering the radiator grill upfront since that is not a true test since 90% of ford trucks and other vehicles do not have that grille protector shield upfront in the winter in WI. 

[BF]

Why did they put that peculiar polka dot wrap on those trucks?  Anytime they spend money it must serve a purpose!

I spent most of July in Destin, almost didn't recognize the place(s).  Rode by the climate lab a few times, didn't look like anything going on......unlike much of the 80's.

You gotta ask Ford about the polka dots.

From the outside, we might not look busy but I assure you we're slamed.  Our testing schedule is booked solid for years and years down the road.  In fact, we've had meetings about it....we need some down time so we can make repairs we are falling behind on.

sure are a lot of buttons in that room you are responsible for, do you know what all of them are for?

Yah,  if you turned and faced the camera,  a true START would be born! 


I also wonder about that wrap around the ford vehicles, wonder why?

Also wonder why they have a bra covering the radiator grill upfront since that is not a true test since 90% of ford trucks and other vehicles do not have that grille protector shield upfront in the winter in WI. 

Yep cookie....I'm one of only two or three of us that actually know what all the buttons, switch's and dials are for....and one of those just retired.  We have a real problem trying to get quality people in here that want to learn this place and want to stay.  Apparently, this job ain't for everyone.

[Robert]

That looks like the panel at Chernobyl are you sure you got the right photo and the right buttons?  I first looked at that and said to myself that must be one of the eccentric engineers designers just came in to supervise things since you were in jeans.

Whats the technology that is used to get things that cool and what are the electric bills like?

[BF]

That looks like the panel at Chernobyl are you sure you got the right photo and the right buttons?   I first looked at that and said to myself that must be one of the eccentric engineers designers just came in to supervise things since you were in jeans.

Whats the technology that is used to get things that cool and what are the electric bills like?

York industrial refregeration units designed specific to us.  There's nowhere else in the world that they've designed variable speed variable load compressors for anyone...just us.  They run on R22...just like your house.  We can get as cold as -105.

Three units, two compressors each...total tonage is 995 tons....your house is 2 1/2, 3 tons...maybe more depending on your house.

I don't see the power bill....the base pays that...but l've heard that it's been over a million before.  That's when the wing commander gives us a call.  then we have to watch what piece of equipment we start and what time of day we start it.

He hasn't called all summer this year....we're making tons of money for his Test Wing.     

[flsix]

We had a Ford test track down here in the S.E. corner of Golden Gate Estates in Fl. for quite a few years. It wasn't unusual to see test vehicles out on the local roads with different patterns of black and white stripes. No polka dots. We were able to talk to some of the test drivers and were told the stripes were to help camouflage the styles and shapes of the future models that they were already working with.
I don't think Ford has any interest in the track any more but HD uses it to test their bikes.

[Cracker Jack]

That looks like the panel at Chernobyl are you sure you got the right photo and the right buttons?  I first looked at that and said to myself that must be one of the eccentric engineers designers just came in to supervise things since you were in jeans.

Whats the technology that is used to get things that cool and what are the electric bills like?

York industrial refregeration units designed specific to us.  There's nowhere else in the world that they've designed variable speed variable load compressors for anyone...just us.  They run on R22...just like your house.  We can get as cold as -105.

Three units, two compressors each...total tonage is 995 tons....your house is 2 1/2, 3 tons...maybe more depending on your house.

I don't see the power bill....the base pays that...but l've heard that it's been over a million before.  That's when the wing commander gives us a call.   then we have to watch what piece of equipment we start and what time of day we start it.

He hasn't called all summer this year....we're making tons of money for his Test Wing.    

I'm a little surprised that you can achieve -105F with R-22 alone without cascading. What evaporator (suction) pressure do you need to run to do this? I don't have an R-22 chart.

[Rams]

No doubt, A Star is Born.

You may want to change your wardrobe though for those Beach Shots and Love Scenes. 

[BF]

That looks like the panel at Chernobyl are you sure you got the right photo and the right buttons?   I first looked at that and said to myself that must be one of the eccentric engineers designers just came in to supervise things since you were in jeans.

Whats the technology that is used to get things that cool and what are the electric bills like?

York industrial refregeration units designed specific to us.  There's nowhere else in the world that they've designed variable speed variable load compressors for anyone...just us.  They run on R22...just like your house.  We can get as cold as -105.

Three units, two compressors each...total tonage is 995 tons....your house is 2 1/2, 3 tons...maybe more depending on your house.

I don't see the power bill....the base pays that...but l've heard that it's been over a million before.  That's when the wing commander gives us a call.  then we have to watch what piece of equipment we start and what time of day we start it.

He hasn't called all summer this year....we're making tons of money for his Test Wing.    

I'm a little surprised that you can achieve -105F with R-22 alone without cascading. What evaporator (suction) pressure do you need to run to do this? I don't have an R-22 chart.

No evaporator....it's a flooded system.  Suction pressure goes down as far as we can go....29.9".  It's a compound system with a Hi stage and a Lo stage compressor.  Discharge pressure (condenser pressure) runs anywhere from 125 pounds to 200/210.  I don't like to see pressures under 125...we risk stopping condensing.  Pressures over 210 and we run the risk of running too hot.  As you can see, suction pressures are all over the map as well....depending on what conditions they want us to provide and depending on load.  

I've been told for the last thirty years that we're the only system like this on the planet.  I've never seen or heard of a system like we have anywhere else.  There are other places that use the same equipment that we do, but it's for process refrigeration and they're not variable speed, variable load systems like we have.  They hit the start button and their systems go to 100% speed and go to  whatever parameter they were designed for....we're all over the map.  We generally soft start our compressors at 35% to 45% speed.  And their ref usually stays in their systems.  We drop ours out to a storage tank....which then gets vaporized and then condensed back into a liquid that goes into our clean tank.  Noncondensables and oil gets left behind in the other tank that we pump out later on.  

The hi stage takes it's suction from the desuperheater tank and then discharges to a condenser, then that liquid floods down thru an intercooler and then down to a surge tank.  The low stage takes it's suction from the surge tank and then discharges to the desuperheater, then floods down thru the low side intercooler and then down to the surge tank.  The surge is full of liquid which then gets pumped to either the plenums or several different HX's.  The surge is the coldest part of the system and that's where we read our suction pressure from.  

Two pumps per system send liquid ref to wherever we need it to go through the valving we configure on the control board...either to two very large plenums (the coils are flooded and there are two plenums per unit) or to HX's.  There are four sets of HX's we can send the ref to to cool down CACL or R30 for use in our Air Make Up system.  That's air we pre-cool to send in the chamber for engine runs.  Yes, we run jet engines in the chamber...all the way to full AB.  But that system is limited to our fluids....eventually they warm up to not being usable and then we have to stop and regenerate that CACL and R30 again for the next engine run.  

A couple weeks ago, we had Google in the main chamber (same chamber that Ford is in) testing their Google Loon project (look it up...it's on youtube) and they asked me to take the chamber to as low as it would go overnight.  My instrumentation read -84...but we found out later that the instrument that reads that temp quit working at that temp.  The engineers think I actually got closer to -90.  

The old systems we had that had been in place since 1945 ran on R12.  Condenser pressures ran on those at around 125 pounds to about 150.  We had a rehab in the mid '90's, took out the old units and put in the new units.  It took us about two years to get that all done and commissioned.  I've been there since July '85.  


Oh... I forgot to mention that there's three units.....all 3 exactly alike. 

[Pappy!]

Wow....thirty years at the same job in this day and time! Well done.

[BF]

Wow....thirty years at the same job in this day and time! Well done.

I know....they couldn't find anyone else dumb enough to stay here that long.    

[Robert]

Understood most of the tech stuff thanks that was interesting but how do they stop the icicles from forming on the outside of the building? Plus Florida for a ice chamber, that sounds like not the best idea.  ???

[Rams]

Not in response to the above post but, that question/post made me wonder what insulation is used on that building.   Is there even such an insulation as R10,000?   The exterior walls must be insulated with some good stuff.   I assume extremely thick walls filled with.................?

[Jess from VA]

Pretty amazing technology.

If there actually was such a thing as global warming.... you guys could reverse it just leaving the doors open.   

[Robert]

In order to conserve electricity they use the air and vent it into the other buildings when the tests shut down.   

[BF]

Understood most of the tech stuff thanks that was interesting but how do they stop the icicles from forming on the outside of the building? Plus Florida for a ice chamber, that sounds like not the best idea.  ???

The walls are about 2 feet thick.  The attic is 30 feet high.  We're insulated pretty good.  

Here's a whole bunch more videos about us....

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mckinley+climatic+lab

Oh and Robert.....it was built here back in the 1944/45 when land was cheap.....AND, this is a testing base....the Test Wing is based here.  We test stuff, so we're here under the umbrella of the Test Wing. 

Pretty amazing technology.

If there actually was such a thing as global warming.... you guys could reverse it just leaving the doors open.  

Jess....We have opened the doors before for a thermo-shock test someone wanted to do.  What happened was a huge fog bank rolled outside because of the Florida humidity.....and all of the glass in their items broke.  

[Robert]

Jess....We have opened the doors before for a thermo-shock test someone wanted to do.  What happened was a huge fog bank rolled outside because of the Florida humidity.....and all of the glass in their items broke.  
quote

I would say they got a shock test.

[baldo]

That looks like the panel at Chernobyl are you sure you got the right photo and the right buttons?   I first looked at that and said to myself that must be one of the eccentric engineers designers just came in to supervise things since you were in jeans.

Whats the technology that is used to get things that cool and what are the electric bills like?

York industrial refregeration units designed specific to us.  There's nowhere else in the world that they've designed variable speed variable load compressors for anyone...just us.  They run on R22...just like your house.  We can get as cold as -105.

Three units, two compressors each...total tonage is 995 tons....your house is 2 1/2, 3 tons...maybe more depending on your house.

I don't see the power bill....the base pays that...but l've heard that it's been over a million before.  That's when the wing commander gives us a call.  then we have to watch what piece of equipment we start and what time of day we start it.

He hasn't called all summer this year....we're making tons of money for his Test Wing.    

I'm a little surprised that you can achieve -105F with R-22 alone without cascading. What evaporator (suction) pressure do you need to run to do this? I don't have an R-22 chart.

No evaporator....it's a flooded system.  Suction pressure goes down as far as we can go....29.9".  It's a compound system with a Hi stage and a Lo stage compressor.  Discharge pressure (condenser pressure) runs anywhere from 125 pounds to 200/210.  I don't like to see pressures under 125...we risk stopping condensing.  Pressures over 210 and we run the risk of running too hot.  As you can see, suction pressures are all over the map as well....depending on what conditions they want us to provide and depending on load.  

I've been told for the last thirty years that we're the only system like this on the planet.  I've never seen or heard of a system like we have anywhere else.  There are other places that use the same equipment that we do, but it's for process refrigeration and they're not variable speed, variable load systems like we have.  They hit the start button and their systems go to 100% speed and go to  whatever parameter they were designed for....we're all over the map.  We generally soft start our compressors at 35% to 45% speed.  And their ref usually stays in their systems.  We drop ours out to a storage tank....which then gets vaporized and then condensed back into a liquid that goes into our clean tank.  Noncondensables and oil gets left behind in the other tank that we pump out later on.  

The hi stage takes it's suction from the desuperheater tank and then discharges to a condenser, then that liquid floods down thru an intercooler and then down to a surge tank.  The low stage takes it's suction from the surge tank and then discharges to the desuperheater, then floods down thru the low side intercooler and then down to the surge tank.  The surge is full of liquid which then gets pumped to either the plenums or several different HX's.  The surge is the coldest part of the system and that's where we read our suction pressure from.  

Two pumps per system send liquid ref to wherever we need it to go through the valving we configure on the control board...either to two very large plenums (the coils are flooded and there are two plenums per unit) or to HX's.  There are four sets of HX's we can send the ref to to cool down CACL or R30 for use in our Air Make Up system.  That's air we pre-cool to send in the chamber for engine runs.  Yes, we run jet engines in the chamber...all the way to full AB.  But that system is limited to our fluids....eventually they warm up to not being usable and then we have to stop and regenerate that CACL and R30 again for the next engine run.  

A couple weeks ago, we had Google in the main chamber (same chamber that Ford is in) testing their Google Loon project (look it up...it's on youtube) and they asked me to take the chamber to as low as it would go overnight.  My instrumentation read -84...but we found out later that the instrument that reads that temp quit working at that temp.  The engineers think I actually got closer to -90.  

The old systems we had that had been in place since 1945 ran on R12.  Condenser pressures ran on those at around 125 pounds to about 150.  We had a rehab in the mid '90's, took out the old units and put in the new units.  It took us about two years to get that all done and commissioned.  I've been there since July '85.  

Wow......I was lost 2 sentences in.....interesting that this facility was located in Florida. I suppose with equipment like you just described, it doesn't matter at all...