Patrick
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Robert
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2015, 06:14:02 AM » |
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Researchers fail to replicate findings of Psychology Studies published in 2008
Wander what studies some of those are, the studies done so that the diagnostic manual could be changed so that we would now have gay marriage. This is the manual that puts psychological disorders on a book to establish the disability for insurance companies and other dr's to go by in classifying treatment. It does not take much to turn a country from its roots, a few people placed in strategic positions can effect a real change.
Obama came in, in 09 coupled with the video above you have to wonder Isolated incidents or conspiracy.
If you think in the moment you will go for isolated incidents if you look at a trend and don't consider time you will see the movement. How about global warming?
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2015, 06:49:11 AM » |
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Thanks Patrick
The man said it well, a patriot who walked the walk and we should not ignore him
He is not PC but he is correct IMHO
Off to Maine..........
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When you come to the fork in the road, take it Yogi Berra (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2015, 06:59:01 AM » |
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Really interesting video, specially the last part. I have been tossing this around my head for a long time, based on bits and pieces I have picked up. I ask myself, why do we go to war, why do we always involve ourselves in things that is not our business. Is it for our freedom and our way of life, I don't believe so. I believe we go to war to protect wealthy peoples investment and their interest and mask it as a threat to our country. I believe we are collateral damage, that pays for their successes and gains. What is the best and the safest way to express your views and information without being accused of treason. Simple!!! make a movie about it. Just for giggles, and to form an opinion if it is possible. Go to Netflix or what ever, watch a movie called "Wag the Dog", that idea and concept came from somewhere, and just think about it. It is a good movie!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 07:53:45 AM » |
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well said, maybe if he wasn't so old already, he should run for Presidency. I'd vote for him, he makes a lot of common sense and most Americans would agree with him.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 09:02:56 AM » |
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A government of the people, for the people and by the people. What people? Ever wonder why only rich people can get elected? If all the candidates posted their stance on the issues on line they would reach more of the people and more candidates would emerge, not just the rich. If people would research the candidates as closely a when putting together a Fantasy Football team maybe we can change things. I'm afraid it may be too late. Here's a tool to find the candidate that most matches where you stand. It's a start. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2015, 09:44:50 AM » |
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A government of the people, for the people and by the people. What people? Ever wonder why only rich people can get elected? If all the candidates posted their stance on the issues on line they would reach more of the people and more candidates would emerge, not just the rich. If people would research the candidates as closely a when putting together a Fantasy Football team maybe we can change things. I'm afraid it may be too late. Here's a tool to find the candidate that most matches where you stand. It's a start. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz Think about it, fantasy football you have a chance to win, but candidates can tell you what you want to hear, and make all the promises in the would, but once elected, they don't have to give you anything and in most cases, you normally lose.
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Willow
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2015, 12:01:24 PM » |
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Here's some food for thought. Thought, not necessarily agreement.
Folks from the middle class are regularly accusing the U.S. government of using it's power, military, and otherwise, to protect the well being of the wealthy rather than of the people. Are those wealthy individuals not part of the people? Does the country as a whole, including those complaining middle class folks, benefit or suffer almost directly resulting from what happens to those wealthy who have interests overseas?
Honestly I don't think there is as much of that as has been claimed although there certainly are occasions in which it has happened.
Why is it only the rich can be elected to high government office, such as the president? In today's world wealth certainly helps buy a little publicity. It seems publicity is pretty well a necessity in the popularity contests of political growth into which we have painted ourselves. Wealthy people can certainly afford to invest the time needed to campaign for political office. I know I couldn't.
One final thought. Most of the candidates for president tend to be well past fifty years of age, more likely past sixty. How would you feel about the innate wisdom of someone of that age that had not bothered to accumulate for himself and his family a bit of personal wealth in this country of opportunity? I've done alright for a poor boy from the common masses but I'm pretty sure my lack of ability to accumulate significant personal wealth (along with the skeletons in my closet) is pretty clear evidence that I'm not fully qualified to represent the people in high political office.
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Patrick
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2015, 12:12:38 PM » |
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Middle class ? We still have such a thing ? 
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2015, 01:17:20 PM » |
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I don't suggest that hard working people that do well for themselves, with saving which we somewhat think of as being wealthy. I am speaking about the wealthy! the Elite, the Old Money, the people that controls and influences daily issues. These people don't have 401K's, they make them, the big money. That is what I mean about wealthy. You rarely hear much about them, they don't like to be in the light. Do we have any New York City people here ask them about the people on Manhattan Island and those areas. If I am wrong, I am wrong! We have an area here called Grosse Point, where the old money is here, you wouldn't believe these homes.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2015, 02:44:34 PM » |
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"One final thought. Most of the candidates for president tend to be well past fifty years of age, more likely past sixty. How would you feel about the innate wisdom of someone of that age that had not bothered to accumulate for himself and his family a bit of personal wealth in this country of opportunity? I've done alright for a poor boy from the common masses but I'm pretty sure my lack of ability to accumulate significant personal wealth (along with the skeletons in my closet) is pretty clear evidence that I'm not fully qualified to represent the people in high political office. "
Is there any wisdom in voting for someone that doesn't believe in the same things you do but is rich? I understand what you're saying but if that person and others were on the ballot there would be a larger slate of candidates, then let the people decide. If every candidate would post his or her views on all the pertinent issues by filling out a standard form and posting it on the web they could reach more voters and they could get more done in the office. There are many sites on the web that can help with you decide who to vote for. Project Vote Smart used to send forms out but very few filled out the questionnaire, the candidates did not have the courage to put down on paper what they stood for. If candidates don't have the guts to stand behind their own beliefs why would you want to vote for them? I should have stayed away from this thread but when I see our representatives in DC doing things that can only hurt our country I think they should be charged with treason. Can you or I do worse?
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Willow
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2015, 03:20:08 PM » |
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Is there any wisdom in voting for someone that doesn't believe in the same things you do but is rich? ... Can you or I do worse? I agree. Amongst those on the ballet the most important characteristics will be whether they support the issues I support, or on some cases, whether they will keep someone out who is strongly opposed to the issues I support. My point is that it is unlikely I would consider anyone a good candidate for the highest office of the land who is still working for a salary or hourly wage. I have nothing against those of us at that level. I just believe one with significant qualities of a prime leader should have by the second half of his life risen above where I'm at. We have asked that question in years past and the answer has come back most assuredly in the positive.
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