Percocet forums?

[Momz]

Percocet and oxycotin user forums. Really? Do we truly need to discuss the addiction to these,....or is it not self evident?

As we age we are more susceptible to injury, disease and possible surgical intervention and the requisite pain management.
Are we becoming a society of medication abusers,....are we a culture of persons that can not endure a bit of discomfort?
I'm not suggesting quitting the or the abolition of meds when a person truly needs relief,...rather a return to more traditional approach to ease discomfort.

I was prescribed these meds with an explanation of their side effects and it scared me.
The constipation was more than enough for me to stop using them.


http://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Percocet/

[Bighead]

Percocet and oxycotin user forums. Really? Do we truly need to discuss the addiction to these,....or is it not self evident?

As we age we are more susceptible to injury, disease and possible surgical intervention and the requisite pain management.
Are we becoming a society of medication abusers,....are we a culture of persons that can not endure a bit of discomfort?
I'm not suggesting quitting the abolition of meds when a person truly needs relief,...rather return to more traditional approach to ease discomfort.

I was prescribed these meds with an explanation of their side effects and it scared me.
The constipation was more than enough for me to stop using them.


http://www.medschat.com/Discuss/Percocet/

We are already a society of prescribed medicine abusers. And a society of no one wanting ANY discomfort and 20 something's hurting an ankle or something less ( fully recoverable injuries ) wanting 100% disability and you would be shocked at how many that keep looking for Dr's until they get it

[Robert]

I know quite a few that were prescribed meds for pain only to become addicted to them. Some stories of kids taking parents pain meds and either using them or selling them. Sad really.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I take very little medicine. Thankfully I have been relatively healthy. But when I had a herniated disc it was excruciating . They prescribed various painkillers but the only thing that worked was Dilaudin (sp.). I was so thankful for that relief , but I started having bizarre dreams and talking in my sleep. It scared me and I quit them after 3 weeks. Luckily they were able to help the situation with epidural shots. The experience did make me wonder why some people like painkillers. It did nothing for me as far as enjoying a high.

[art]

I love morphine. When I had kidney stones and when I had my Valk accident I could eat it like candy. I never had pain like those two times an really needed it. My Son-in-law was driving me home from the hospital after the accident and we had to stop along side of the road so I could puke. The bike acc. was the worse pain I ever had for a short time and the morphine took it all away. It also did wonders for my kidney stones which lasted for six weeks. Morphine the bestest.

[BF]

Since I got cancer, every doctor I go to (I have 5 doctors ...not including my dentist) has been more than generous offering all sorts of pain medications.  Most have all said the same words to me....don't be afraid to ask for stronger pains meds.  

I must have 4 or 5 different kinds of pain pills and patches now.  I don't use most of them...but I do use the patches and the oxycodin.  

[Wizzard]

When I had Kidney stones they gave me Dilaudid. I can see how people get hooked on that feeling. It was like a wave came over me and everything was not only ok, ,it was fantastic.

[G-Man]

When I had Kidney stones they gave me Dilaudid. I can see how people get hooked on that feeling. It was like a wave came over me and everything was not only ok, ,it was fantastic.

Yep, I'm a frequent flyer with kidney stones and Dilaudid is the BEST! 

[Varmintmist]

They prescribed oxy to me when I broke 3 ribs. I found out I am not a candidate for addiction. There are not enough pain meds that you can take to be happy projectile vomiting with busted ribs.

[Disco]

I experienced morphine for the first time when I was in the hospital after my crash.  I had never felt anything like the warmth traveling through my arm and the golden sparkles flying out of my toes.  I was very disappointed when they sent me home after two days.  I can easily understand how people become dependent. 

But, they sent me home with 60 Percosets and a 'script for Hydrocodone.  The Percosets lasted three weeks and gave me a four-day headache when they ran out.  Withdrawal, anyone???  I never filled the Hydrocodones.  Thankfully, they make me nauseous. 

During those three weeks I learned that my childhood was based on a lie. 

Wheaties are not the breakfast of champions...  A cup of coffee and a Percoset is the breakfast of champions!   

[Flint]

I must not be a candidate for addition either, broke my ankle 2 days ago in a fall and was given morphine in the hospital. It curbed the pain and made me nod of a few times but that's it.
Sent me home with Oxycodone and I couldn't eat or drink anything without it coming up. I decided the stomach ache was worst than the ankle so I stopped taking it.

[Bonzo]

After our MC accident They gave me two shots of Morphine, then one of Dilaudid, Nothing. I was having anxiety because they would not let me see my wife, the Dr. explained what he just gave me and said all this and I can't get your pulse below 140. I had an anxiety attack, pulled the wires and IV's off the wall and took off to find Patty. You can imagine the hallways of the ER when a 6'1" 385 lbs. covered in blood and his pants cut up the sides takes a stroll. I found Patty, she was ok , told me to be good. Than I felt a little tug on the IV. Everything got very nice, no anxiety, no pain, a nurse administered 10 Mg. of Valium in an IV push. A Wonder drug. 
They would not give it to me again for pain.

[fudgie]

Yes way to much. We pick up dead ones all the time from Rx overdose. Heroin is making a come back in my county. Never really left but laid low for awhile.

Mostly its the pain docs and family docs that just give it like candy. Sure there are folks that need it but a lot don't. Prob get a lot of flack from here but fibromyalgia is a big crock. Every 20 yr old has it in my town.

Jamie see pts all the time with pain meds. The dosages would make your head spin. She has been doing good in getting folks off of them and only prescribing what should be allowed.

[Spirited-6]

I guess I`m lucky, don`t need pain MEDS. Only need to breath after a 20 " walk. I know R.J. will say "suck it up" . I can only walk 25 / 30 until I`m out of 02. When you are out of 02, what the WTF do you do ? I would love to be on pain meds, that is a light in the of the tunnel. I know there some out there where throw rocks at this, BUT, when you can not BREATH nothing else matters.

Bottom Line , If I could take Pain Med`s to get me thru the day, I`m there.  Try sucking your 02 s straw after you walk 30 feet..
If I sound bitter, you bet your ass I am and it`s my fault .

[J.Mencalice]

More people die of prescription medicine overdoses in the U.S.A. than by those of illegal drugs obtained from the underground pushers.  Why shouldn't the hopheads not have a forum?  It's America!

The real pushers of addictive substances are the "legal" consortium of the FDA, AMA, and big Pharma because all those organizations are in control of what gets created, what gets distributed, and what gets written up on prescription pads.  All hidden behind a curtain and brokered by the legal profession.   Greed, baby, greed.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_18650265
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/trial-set-for-two-doctors-accused-of-drug-peddling
Perry Mason would have a full case load against these "druggists".

[Stanc770]

Always thought I could handle anything that came my way.... That changed with my 1st kidney stone. It was 13mm and took me straight to the floor when it broke loose. That was 56 kidney stones ago. I absolutely love the Dilaudid when a stone hits and never touch it otherwise, so lucky to not be susceptible to addiction.

Use it when you need it, leaved it be when you don't... Hopefully you are lucky enough to to be able to discern the difference.

[fudgie]

The real pushers of addictive substances are the "legal" consortium of the FDA, AMA, and big Pharma because all those organizations are in control of what gets created, what gets distributed, and what gets written up on prescription pads.  All hidden behind a curtain and brokered by the legal profession.   Greed, baby, greed.

I disagree. When the girlfriend writes scripts for narcs she has no influence.

[BradValk48237]

All,

 I was a Manager for a major legitimate Pain Clinic at a Major Hospital in the Detroit area and I saw both sides... the people that really needed meds (to the point of suicide) and those "seeking"....

Pain is a hard thing to judge and a doctor has to take most people at their word as to their pain level and proscribe according to their judgement and knowledge....

That said there are some Docs that don't have the knowledge of how to judge and treat pain and just throw meds at the patient.

B

[Rams]

I won't say I've never taken a pain med, I have been given them when I was in the hospital for major surgeries and I didn't say no but, those pain meds that were sent home with me were never used.   I don't self-medicate.    As an Army Aviator, doing such things could get your wings ripped off your chest and I've maintained that standard.

There's a reason we feel physical pain.    I don't enjoy it anymore than the next guy but, I do know it tells me when I'm not well and when I can take on the world.   

BTW, gett'n old sucks. 

[art]

Always thought I could handle anything that came my way.... That changed with my 1st kidney stone. It was 13mm and took me straight to the floor when it broke loose. That was 56 kidney stones ago. I absolutely love the Dilaudid when a stone hits and never touch it otherwise, so lucky to not be susceptible to addiction.

Use it when you need it, leaved it be when you don't... Hopefully you are lucky enough to to be able to discern the difference.

56 KIDNEY STONES.Holy crap how can you stand it? I had one and that was plenty.

[Art708]

 I can take hydrocodone (Lortab) just fine... but oxycodone makes my mind and body do weird crap. I have taken it twice....after those 2 experiences I stay far away from it.

[Wizzard]

Yes way to much. We pick up dead ones all the time from Rx overdose. Heroin is making a come back in my county. Never really left but laid low for awhile.

Mostly its the pain docs and family docs that just give it like candy. Sure there are folks that need it but a lot don't. Prob get a lot of flack from here but fibromyalgia is a big crock. Every 20 yr old has it in my town.

Jamie see pts all the time with pain meds. The dosages would make your head spin. She has been doing good in getting folks off of them and only prescribing what should be allowed.

Way too many deaths around my area from Heroin. Problem is they are getting it cheap due to our proximity to Chicago and the dealers cut the Heroin with Fentanyl to make it go further. If they are not careful, death results. My daughters best friend just died from this last week and she was just out of rehab. Very sad.

[hubcapsc]

Always thought I could handle anything that came my way.... That changed with my 1st kidney stone. It was 13mm and took me straight to the floor when it broke loose. That was 56 kidney stones ago. I absolutely love the Dilaudid when a stone hits and never touch it otherwise, so lucky to not be susceptible to addiction.

Use it when you need it, leaved it be when you don't... Hopefully you are lucky enough to to be able to discern the difference.

 

They gave me a bottle of 20 or so "happy pills" when I experienced my first
kidney stone a year or so ago... I still have most of them... another (maybe
the same) kidney stone raised its head a few weeks ago out of the blue.
It hurt so badly I thought I was going to throw up... I took a happy pill,
and 1/2 hour later I was happily watching a gunsmoke rerun and reading
the VRCC website...

-Mike "Carolyn said I spoke in tongues during the night... I kind of remember a strange dream about trying to talk"

[Willow]

Different folks have differing views and preferences regarding painkillers.  I've been on morphine multiple times while the hospitals were waiting for my body to heal itself.  I didn't like it.  Apparently some of my family and friends thought it humorous.  I just don't like what the meds do to my mind.  I got off the painkillers as quickly as possible, so soon that my orthopedic surgeon advised me to consider how the medications were helping with the inflammation.

I can't judge what is the level of anyone else's pain.  I've been fortunate enough that mine has not been so great for long enough that I needed to be on painkillers for any extended period.

Some folks don't like motorcycles.

[John Schmidt]

I have some leftover oxy and hydrocodone, rather high level mg(real horsepills) and prescribed for hip/knee pain over the last two years. At the time I found all I needed to take the edge off was 1/4 of those big pills. A dr. at a local pain management clinic first gave me a script for Tramadol, about as effective as a breath mint for me. All it did was upset my entire system with little effect on the pain, I got more relief just using an ice pack. He later gave me a script for some oxycodone but I requested it be at a much lower dosage, and even then I only take half of it and very seldom at that. About 98% of the time I get along in tolerable fashion re. hip pain and don't take anything. But there are those times when the pain is bad enough I can barely walk, if at all. That's the only time I'll use any of that stuff, and the lower dosage at least keeps my head screwed on straight when I only take half a pill. If anything over the counter would work, then I wouldn't need any of it....but it doesn't so there are times I find it necessary.

[Varmintmist]

Morphine is a different animal. I have had it twice, once for the snapped humerus, and once for the ribs, in the hosp only. It didnt take the pain away, but I just didnt care and the adrenaline ran out to the point I racked out as soon as someone stopped talking to me.

One funny thing with the ribs was when I was on the morphine, the doc came in and said I broke 3 ribs, 5 through 8, and I knew that didnt sound right, the nurse and the wife looked at each other puzzled, but I couldn't do the math and I pondered that for quite a while.

[Wizzard]

worst part of Vicodin is constipation. I have had several share that it caused terrible constipation. I experienced that when I took it for a broken leg. I usually don't even come close to using what they give me cause I hate taking pills of any sort.

[Grumpy]

I was on oxy last year after the bike wreck, about the only way I could get some relief, had 26 broken bones and road rash, plus a 1/2 hole that went halfway under my knee cap. Only I could move or sleep was to be drugged up. About halfway through therapy I chucked all the pills I had left and never looked back.

[Alien]

I've beaten the hell out of myself in my life, sometimes with help from others, but that's another story.  Crashed a couple of motorcycles, bad road rash, broken some bones (ribs, wrist, ankle, foot fingers and toes), tore up my back lifting patients as an EMT, tore an intercostal muscle (muscle between the ribs) as an EMT too.  Through all of that, I took nothing stronger than Advil and Tylenol, along with Icy Hot and ice packs.

All of that changed about three years ago when we were up in Eureka visiting my in-laws.  I woke up with the left side of my head grotesquely swollen and in severe pain.  It was an abscess tooth.  When I say "severe pain", what I mean is SEVERE F#$@ING PAIN LIKE A WHITE HOT RAILROAD SPIKE PULSATING IN THE CENTER OF MY SKULL.  I have never experienced anything like that.  There were no dentists open that day and after begging my father in law to lend me some channel locks so I could rip the damn thing out myself (to no avail), my wife drove me to the local ER.  After assessing my pain ("How would you rate your pain on a scale of 1-10?"  "A million, F*&%k you.  Help me!"), they gave me morphine and something else by IV.  It didn't make the pain go away but it made me not really care about the pain.  They admonished me to see a dentist as soon as possible and sent me home with a bottle of high test Percocet.  The combination of drugs let me sleep most of the 700 miles back to L.A. where I went to my dentist and got the tooth pulled.

So yeah, pain meds definitely have their place.  If you had told me before this happened that somebody needed IV pain meds for a toothache, I'd have called them a drug seeker.  Just goes to show that you can't judge anyone else's pain.

Ride Safe,

Alien