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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2015, 06:49:23 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 03:21:53 AM » |
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Not really sure but it seems if you are a drunk or drugs or any other thing like that you have a disability like having a illness or disease and not responsible for your actions. Comes under the disability act just like half way houses can not be regulated by local governments. Its one of the new ways of thinking.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2015, 03:39:06 AM » |
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Whats the new way of thinking ? Is that coming from something like the secular progressive hand book ?
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 05:52:41 AM » |
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Perspective....and perception. Two different cases, two different individuals, two different judges etc, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 10:08:13 AM » |
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50K bond guy and the 150k bond guy.
50k bond guy kills 2 people with car while driving drunk out of his mind.
150k bond guy intentionally attempts to kill a specific individual (s) but is only successful in maiming.
50k bond guy is drunk but is not out to intentionally attack anyone. His/her intent is to probably go home or to the next bar. It would seem the law would be limited in this case due to the lack of intent to kill or maim. Assuming the drunk driver was actually at fault, he should be sentenced to most, if not the rest, of his life in prison.
150 bond guy is out to kill people. That is his intent. He's not even drunk. Just mean and ruthlessly driving his vehicle to take people out. The law, it seems, usually speaks directly to such intent.
He should be sentenced to the rest of his life in prison as well.
Playing the odds you at least have a chance of not getting hit by the drunk.
Pretty much screwed when the other guy takes aim at ya.
So the bond issue is rational to me.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 11:36:54 AM » |
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Very sad and also scary that there are still people out there that want to take us out cause were riding a motorcycle. Ive met a few of these types and they don't like bikes or people who ride them and they like for you to know it. These people are truly nuts.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 01:30:38 PM » |
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Bond is to ensure defendant shows up to trial (and does not flee). And flight risk goes up when the charges and possible sentence is severe.
Each defendant's personal situation and ties to the community is considered.
Even though you generally only have to put up 10% of the bond, 50K for some might as well be a million.
Guess how many parents put up their house as bond collateral, and junior runs away. Do not put your house up for your kids anyone.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 02:38:09 PM » |
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Bond is to ensure defendant shows up to trial (and does not flee). And flight risk goes up when the charges and possible sentence is severe. Exactly right and no matter how overwhelming the evidence, the judge is not allowed supposed to assume guilt before the trial. Two different judges, people, guessing at what it takes to guarantee the defendant's appearance at his trial. Usually they guess right. Sometimes they guess wrong. Mine was set at only $5,000. I won't tell you what the charge was. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 04:52:49 PM » |
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Bond is to ensure defendant shows up to trial (and does not flee). And flight risk goes up when the charges and possible sentence is severe. Exactly right and no matter how overwhelming the evidence, the judge is not allowed supposed to assume guilt before the trial. Two different judges, people, guessing at what it takes to guarantee the defendant's appearance at his trial. Usually they guess right. Sometimes they guess wrong. Mine was set at only $5,000. I won't tell you what the charge was. I win.....My bond was $50,000. Unlawful possession and unlawful storage of.......Yep, you guessed it.....EXPLOSIVES!!!  |
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2015, 06:46:08 PM » |
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Oh good, a highest bail-bond contest.  I can't compete, I was released on my own recognizance. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2015, 08:30:18 AM » |
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Bail is only loosely tied to the crime, but absolutely tied to the how the court perceived the criminal returning to court for trial.
I tie for least amount. Own recognizance.
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2015, 11:54:35 AM » |
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Bond is to ensure defendant shows up to trial (and does not flee). And flight risk goes up when the charges and possible sentence is severe. Exactly right and no matter how overwhelming the evidence, the judge is not allowed supposed to assume guilt before the trial. Two different judges, people, guessing at what it takes to guarantee the defendant's appearance at his trial. Usually they guess right. Sometimes they guess wrong. Mine was set at only $5,000. I won't tell you what the charge was. Jaywalking ?, Littering ?, Assault with a deadly weapon ?. Oh come on, give it up |
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2015, 02:40:41 PM » |
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I was on the road today and there was a car in the left lane doing 20 below the posted 70 and a truck was behind him waiting on him to get over into the right lane ( it was clear) but the jackass just kept driving in the left and the truck went to the right lane to pass and the freakin guy in the car waited til the truck was beside him then he steers right as hard as he can making the truck swerve (with many other cars behind the Jackass vehicle) then swerves back into the left and continues on his blistering pace and makes every car go around him on the right. Wish I was a LEO at that point  jackass would have been cuffed and stuffed. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2015, 05:42:31 PM » |
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But sometimes it has nothing to do with release and making trial it has to do with go to jail now and stay there. Especially if the court thinks that money is not an issue. Justice is not blind either its selective especially today.
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