this is about as far off topic as you can get....

[musclehead]

got my physical done yesterday, clean bill of health.  they even hooked me up to an EKG.

the more pressing matter is I'm working on scheduling the "up periscope" procedure, as I am 54 and it is time...

colonoscopy to those not in the know.

[..]

That's the way to show you are a man and care about your family and friends. 

[MacDragon]

Definitely in the know... I'm 58 (on the 15th of this month) and had it done around 6 years ago.  worse part is the cool-aid they make you drink the day before.  CLEANS YA RIGHT OUT! The procedure is not that bad since I only remember the first couple of minutes then fell asleep.  Doc said he found my head up there.

[..]

Ask for the pills.

Just as effective at cleaning you out without the taste. Although someone recently told me the liquid now came in flavors.

[RDAbull]

Good for you.  I got my base done 10 years ago at 55.  Scheduled for my second after the semester is over.  being 65 is not that bad yet.  Much better than the alternative.

[csj]

"Up Periscope"?

Bummer Dude. 

[Mike M in ohio]

In regard to colonoscopy:
    At 60, I recently went for my third. The nurse who was prepping me with the I.V. for sedation, says : "Mr. McCann, have you ever considered doing this WITHOUT sedation?" Naturally, I replied, "Now, WHY would I want to do THAT?"
     Well, said nurse, who was about 70 years old, says, "Well, I did mine without sedation, and it wasn't bad at all. There are very few pain nerve sensations in the colon. All you feel is some discomfort as the scope rounds the corners."
     So, being a REAL man, I looked her in the eye and said: "You know, now that you said YOU went through with it, how can I not do it, and still be a man?"
     The nurse chuckled and said, "It's not a guy/gal thing. Although women DO bear pain better than men. (Arrrgghh!)
     So, needless to say, I proceeded without the nap. And, I have to admit that it was INTERESTING, in that, I got to watch the large monitor screen and watch every process of the procedure. (inch by inch) Was it painful? No, not really. But it was repeatedly uncomfortable as that scope pushed its way around the hairpin curves. And, afterwards, I could drive myself home and proceed with the tasks of my day.
     That nurse, by the way, asked when it was over, "So, would you do it that way again?"
     I thought for a moment and said, "Yeah, I guess I would."
     "Wow," she replied. "All the other men who tried it, including my husband, said they never would."
     Of course, she revealed that AFTER the procedure.
                                                   Ride safe all.     Mike in New York

[..]

In regard to colonoscopy:
    At 60, I recently went for my third. The nurse who was prepping me with the I.V. for sedation, says : "Mr. McCann, have you ever considered doing this WITHOUT sedation?" Naturally, I replied, "Now, WHY would I want to do THAT?"
     Well, said nurse, who was about 70 years old, says, "Well, I did mine without sedation, and it wasn't bad at all. There are very few pain nerve sensations in the colon. All you feel is some discomfort as the scope rounds the corners."
     So, being a REAL man, I looked her in the eye and said: "You know, now that you said YOU went through with it, how can I not do it, and still be a man?"
     The nurse chuckled and said, "It's not a guy/gal thing. Although women DO bear pain better than men. (Arrrgghh!)
     So, needless to say, I proceeded without the nap. And, I have to admit that it was INTERESTING, in that, I got to watch the large monitor screen and watch every process of the procedure. (inch by inch) Was it painful? No, not really. But it was repeatedly uncomfortable as that scope pushed its way around the hairpin curves. And, afterwards, I could drive myself home and proceed with the tasks of my day.
     That nurse, by the way, asked when it was over, "So, would you do it that way again?"
     I thought for a moment and said, "Yeah, I guess I would."
     "Wow," she replied. "All the other men who tried it, including my husband, said they never would."
     Of course, she revealed that AFTER the procedure.
                                                   Ride safe all.     Mike in New York

I was wheeled into the procedure room for my 2nd go round.

I could blurrily see the Camera monitor as the snake was advancing to the unmentionable place.

Insertion and I said "OW". The doc said to the nurse "give him some more juice" (I think) and that's all I remember until the recovery room.

[Steve K (IA)]

Ask for the pills.

Just as effective at cleaning you out without the taste. Although someone recently told me the liquid now came in flavors.

Flavors, yep.  But I don't think Anything can make that stuff go down easy.  Almost gagged at every dose of the gallon I had to drink. 

If there is a pill, I'll remember that the next time.   

[da prez]

  On my first time I asked the nurse what the dark spot was on the screen. "You can see that "she asked. Sure , it's right there. Did you take the sedative pills. No , I was not offered any. She said she would give me something. How much longer I asked. About another couple minutes. Then , do not bother. They finished and I left on my own.

                                 da prez

[98valk]

a very dangerous procedure
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very disease the device was designed to prevent.
http://news.health.com/2009/06/16/colonoscopy-risks-increase-age-illness/

eat boiled, well steamed cabbage and naturally fermented cabbage. it has nutrients that keep colon cells healthy and stop/remove cancer cells.
read below the dangers of a colonscope and how many die from the procedure, actually more than cancer of. the medical community is using fear tactics to make people lab rats so they can make a fortune.

one of many such articles
" Cabbage contains powerful antioxidants like vitamins A and C and phytonutrients such as thiocyanates, lutein, zeaxanthin, isothiocyanates and sulforaphane, which stimulate detoxifying enzymes and may protect against breast, colon and prostate cancers.

Sulforaphane, also selectively targets cancer stem cells, and by doing so it effectively prevents the cancer from spreading and/or recurring. Antioxidants also help protect your body from oxidative stress."
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/03/cabbage.aspx

many articles on this.
and the dangers of http://www.ener-chi.com/the-dangers-of-colonoscopies/
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very
disease the device was designed to prevent.
The average age for developing colorectal cancer is 71. The medical industry recommends screening starting at the age of 50 and as low as 45 for African Americans. So, for the first couple of decades, you are risking your life with a dangerous, invasive procedure to diagnose a disease that is far less of a risk at that age than the odds of being injured by the screening device. I could stop right there, because that should be enough to make a critical thinker forget about this barberic diagnostic tool, at least until the age of 65. But, there is more – a whole lot more to consider, which leads me to believe we should search to discover a safer and more effective tool.

[RainMaker]

a very dangerous procedure
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very disease the device was designed to prevent.
http://news.health.com/2009/06/16/colonoscopy-risks-increase-age-illness/

eat boiled, well steamed cabbage and naturally fermented cabbage. it has nutrients that keep colon cells healthy and stop/remove cancer cells.
read below the dangers of a colonscope and how many die from the procedure, actually more than cancer of. the medical community is using fear tactics to make people lab rats so they can make a fortune.

one of many such articles
" Cabbage contains powerful antioxidants like vitamins A and C and phytonutrients such as thiocyanates, lutein, zeaxanthin, isothiocyanates and sulforaphane, which stimulate detoxifying enzymes and may protect against breast, colon and prostate cancers.

Sulforaphane, also selectively targets cancer stem cells, and by doing so it effectively prevents the cancer from spreading and/or recurring. Antioxidants also help protect your body from oxidative stress."
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/03/cabbage.aspx

many articles on this.
and the dangers of http://www.ener-chi.com/the-dangers-of-colonoscopies/
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very
disease the device was designed to prevent.
The average age for developing colorectal cancer is 71. The medical industry recommends screening starting at the age of 50 and as low as 45 for African Americans. So, for the first couple of decades, you are risking your life with a dangerous, invasive procedure to diagnose a disease that is far less of a risk at that age than the odds of being injured by the screening device. I could stop right there, because that should be enough to make a critical thinker forget about this barberic diagnostic tool, at least until the age of 65. But, there is more – a whole lot more to consider, which leads me to believe we should search to discover a safer and more effective tool.

Take your facts and show them to the families and friends of those who died of colon cancer, many of whom would be with us today if they had done this simple procedure, caught it early and had it taken care of before it spread and killed them. 

Take your chances.  It's your life.

LaserPat, before he died, told us what we should do.  Get the exam.  Live another day.

[..]

a very dangerous procedure
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very disease the device was designed to prevent.
http://news.health.com/2009/06/16/colonoscopy-risks-increase-age-illness/

eat boiled, well steamed cabbage and naturally fermented cabbage. it has nutrients that keep colon cells healthy and stop/remove cancer cells.
read below the dangers of a colonscope and how many die from the procedure, actually more than cancer of. the medical community is using fear tactics to make people lab rats so they can make a fortune.

one of many such articles
" Cabbage contains powerful antioxidants like vitamins A and C and phytonutrients such as thiocyanates, lutein, zeaxanthin, isothiocyanates and sulforaphane, which stimulate detoxifying enzymes and may protect against breast, colon and prostate cancers.

Sulforaphane, also selectively targets cancer stem cells, and by doing so it effectively prevents the cancer from spreading and/or recurring. Antioxidants also help protect your body from oxidative stress."
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/03/cabbage.aspx

many articles on this.
and the dangers of http://www.ener-chi.com/the-dangers-of-colonoscopies/
Reported in this study from 2006; “The perforation rate reported from colonoscopies was 1 in 1000 procedures, and ‘serious complications’ occurred in 5 in1000”. According The Annals Of Internal Medicine’s report on colonoscopies, an estimated 70,000 (0.5%) will be injured or killed by a complication related to this procedure. This figure is 22% higher than the annual deaths from colorectal cancer itself – the very
disease the device was designed to prevent.
The average age for developing colorectal cancer is 71. The medical industry recommends screening starting at the age of 50 and as low as 45 for African Americans. So, for the first couple of decades, you are risking your life with a dangerous, invasive procedure to diagnose a disease that is far less of a risk at that age than the odds of being injured by the screening device. I could stop right there, because that should be enough to make a critical thinker forget about this barberic diagnostic tool, at least until the age of 65. But, there is more – a whole lot more to consider, which leads me to believe we should search to discover a safer and more effective tool.

Take your facts and show them to the families and friends of those who died of colon cancer, many of whom would be with us today if they had done this simple procedure, caught it early and had it taken care of before it spread and killed them. 

Take your chances.  It's your life.

LaserPat, before he died, told us what we should do.  Get the exam.  Live another day.

Yerp Laser Pat is one of a few I know have died and I know a few who have had to have severe surgery.

So you do what you think best and we will do what we think best. Easy solution.

[old2soon]

Clean bill of health on the first one-THANK GOD.  But after putting it off and making lame ass excuses and repeating same-well sad to say it was Laserpats passing that FINALLY got the nasty liquid into me and me on the table for my T V debut the next day. I NEVER met Laserpat nor did I ever share wind with him but-here anyway at the very least-his legacy is for us to get this SIMPLE LIFE SAVING PRCEDURE DONE!! RIDE SAE.

[pais]

  I did my 2nd one at the age of 50, started at 45. My Mother had colo-rectal cancer at the age of 56. She lived 'til she was 90 with a colostomy bag strapped to her hip. Her doctor strongly suggested all us kids(8 of us) start them @ 45. I don't hesitate to schedule them.
   My Mother had to continue them every 5 yrs. She stopped @ 85. She never, not once took the sedative. My Mother was one tough cookie!

[Willow]

Clean bill of health on the first one-THANK GOD.  But after putting it off and making lame ass excuses and repeating same-well sad to say it was Laserpats passing that FINALLY got the nasty liquid into me and me on the table for my T V debut the next day. I NEVER met Laserpat nor did I ever share wind with him but-here anyway at the very least-his legacy is for us to get this SIMPLE LIFE SAVING PRCEDURE DONE!! RIDE SAE.

O2S, when posting regarding the need for colonoscopies we try to avoid such terms as "lame ass excuse" and "sharing wind".

My doctor, Elizabeth something or other, said I was clean as a whistle.  If I'd been thinking quickly that day I would have told her that's seldom the sound it makes.   

I'm not sure about all the complaints of nasty tasting liquid preparation.  My doctor had me take a bottle of intense over-the-counter laxative mixed with two liters of soda pop.  Taking the prep stuff was not an issue, but the following experience was a bit disconcerting.  Privacy was very important to me for several hours.

[Wizzard]

Been doing it every 5 years since I was 40 and its no problem at all. My doctor gives me a couple of small pills and I drink about a gallon of my favorite gatorade and it does the trick.

[Daniel Meyer]

Just did mine a couple weeks ago. "Moviprep" was the prep I took. Tastes like slightly salty Gatorade. Was better chilled.

Had to drink a liter (in 4 parts, 15 minutes between) and then another liter in 4 parts 4 hours later...with at least 4 glasses of some clear liquid after each liter.

I was "well cleaned out" before starting the second batch

No biggie. Taste was less palatable by the end of the second liter, but do-able.

"Clean out" was not pleasant, but no pain/cramping and controllable enough.

Procedure?

Laying there...the "guy" comes in and "racks" the device, and hooks it up. It's marked in length increments. I asked the doc, "The whole thing?" and he laughed and said, "Just the tip."   

After all the prep, laying on the table, the knock-out lady adjusted a blood pressure cuff and then stuck a needle in my IV port...I was gonna ask her, "Is that the stuff that makes me go 'bye bye'?" but it was too late. I was hell and gone.

Only thing I didn't like is I dreamed...nightmares really...past traumas coming back...once you've been burned or suffocated that stuff haunts you at inconvenient times...and I've always dealt with this by recognizing that it was a dream and waking...and I recognized it...but couldn't wake. I was in all out "fight or flight" mode when I did wake and covered in sweat...but the wife was there and grabbed my hand...she knows...and tells me she's got me covered...and that's all it took.

Walked out 30 minutes later. Clean bill of health.

Sad thing...my insurance explicitly covers this at 50 and as needed afterwards...100%...heh...yeah, right. I got to pay for the consult with the doc prior to the screening and the prep...around $300 total. Only the actual raping part was covered. I find this appropriately ironic.

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

Just did mine a couple weeks ago. "Moviprep" was the prep I took. Tastes like slightly salty Gatorade. Was better chilled.

Had to drink a liter (in 4 parts, 15 minutes between) and then another liter in 4 parts 4 hours later...with at least 4 glasses of some clear liquid after each liter.

I was "well cleaned out" before starting the second batch

No biggie. Taste was less palatable by the end of the second liter, but do-able.

"Clean out" was not pleasant, but no pain/cramping and controllable enough.

Procedure?

Laying there...the "guy" comes in and "racks" the device, and hooks it up. It's marked in length increments. I asked the doc, "The whole thing?" and he laughed and said, "Just the tip."  

After all the prep, laying on the table, the knock-out lady adjusted a blood pressure cuff and then stuck a needle in my IV port...I was gonna ask her, "Is that the stuff that makes me go 'bye bye'?" but it was too late. I was hell and gone.

Only thing I didn't like is I dreamed...nightmares really...past traumas coming back...once you've been burned or suffocated that stuff haunts you at inconvenient times...and I've always dealt with this by recognizing that it was a dream and waking...and I recognized it...but couldn't wake. I was in all out "fight or flight" mode when I did wake and covered in sweat...but the wife was there and grabbed my hand...she knows...and tells me she's got me covered...and that's all it took.

Walked out 30 minutes later. Clean bill of health.

Sad thing...my insurance explicitly covers this at 50 and as needed afterwards...100%...heh...yeah, right. I got to pay for the consult with the doc prior to the screening and the prep...around $300 total. Only the actual raping part was covered. I find this appropriately ironic.

Did it at 50 almost 2 years ago and was told come back in 10 years. I don't know what all the fuss is about drinking the stuff. Everyone warned me. Mine was called "go lyte ly" powder in a jug you mix with water and drink a glass every 20 minutes. Didn't taste like Yuengling but not worth all the horror stories. It does clean you out.......