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« on: November 11, 2015, 08:07:03 AM » |
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Hopefully everyone will read this and pass on . . . . Well....., what the hell is happening to us????? Democrats and Republicans ('different' ONLY in name) We read all the jokes and forward the good ones but I just wonder who will pass this one on. How about you sending it on, and maybe it will reach someone in our Government who will just keep laughing at us SUCKERS – GOD are we stupid or what ! I do Someone please tell me what the HELL's wrong with All the people that run this country!!!!!! Both Democrats and Republicans Say, "We're broke" And can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless, Etc.,????? But, over the last several years THEY have provided direct cash aid to.... Hamas - $351 M, Libya - $1.45 B, Egypt - $397 M, Mexico - $622 M, Russia - $380 M, Haiti - $1.4 B, Jordan - $463 M, Kenya - $816 M, Sudan - $870 M, Nigeria - $456 M, Uganda - $451 M, Congo - $359 M, Ethiopia - $981 M, Pakistan - $2 B, South Africa - $566 M, Senegal - $698 M, Mozambique - $404 M, Zambia - $331 M, Kazakhstan - $304 M, Iraq - $1.08 B, Tanzania - $554 M, ...with literally Billions of Dollars and those assholes still hate us!!!! But on the other hand, Our retired seniors, Living on a 'fixed income,' Receive NO aid! Nor do they get any breaks, while our government And religious organizations will pour Hundreds of Billions Of $$$$$$'s and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries! Someone needs to explain to them that Charity begins AT HOME!!! And another atrocity.... We have Hundreds of adoptable American Children who are shoved aside To make room for The adoption of Foreign orphans. AMERICA: A country where we have Countless Homeless without shelter, Children going to bed hungry, Elderly going without needed medication and the Mentally ill without treatment -- etc. YET.......... They will have a 'Benefit' Show For the people of Haiti , on 12 TVStations; Ships and planes lining up with food, water, tents clothes, bedding, doctors and medical supplies. Now Just Imagine if Our own *GOVERNMENT* Gave 'US' the same support they give to foreign countries. Sad, isn't it? 99% of people won't have the 'chutzpah' to forward this. WELL, I'm one of the 1% who Just Did. --Shame on you if this does not make you VERY angry. ? The cost of food was taken OUT OF the cost of living index for Social Security" 
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2015, 08:47:01 AM » |
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While I get your point & agree with what your sayin', that's not what 1% means on a motorcycle forum. I'm jus' sayin'.........
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2015, 08:50:34 AM » |
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While I get your point & agree with what your sayin', that's not what 1% means on a motorcycle forum. I'm jus' sayin'.........
I guess you're right. I was thinking thats not what 1% means anywhere. 
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2015, 09:28:15 AM » |
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The reason that non-celebrity couples go outside the country to adopt is because they want a white child, or will settle for an Asian girl.
The wait for a white baby in this country is long and verrrry expensive. My cousin went through this 18 years ago. the lawyer (part of the high expense) gave him a beeper so that he can be contacted at any time for immediate response. If you snooze, you lose and someone else gets the kid.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2015, 10:12:18 AM » |
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You know, I can't even respond to this because it makes me so angry.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2015, 10:26:17 AM » |
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You know, I can't even respond to this because it makes me so angry.
Uh... Wouldn't that be a response ? 
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2015, 11:41:28 AM » |
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Yep the government is corrupt and ass backwards. We have been hemorrhaging money for years because of special interest, manipulation, corruption from power and greed.
No longer a Country for and by the people.
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Willow
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2015, 01:44:31 PM » |
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I guess I'm part of the ninety-nine percent.
I do agree that it's a bad idea for the U.S. of A. to be providing millions and billions of dollars to foreign governments that obviously hate us and are working to bring us down. After that I got kind of lost in the tirade. If the original author thinks we have poverty in this country comparable to the destitution and starvation that occurs in countries such as Haiti then that original author is delusional.
I'll not be passing this one along.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2015, 02:00:41 PM » |
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Willow I don't think he is delusional at all I think the point he is trying to make is that we need to take care of our own before handing out billions to people who want us all dead. When we have a national disaster here you don't see any country offering aid to us why because we would refuse it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2015, 02:12:03 PM » |
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I think the moral of the story is that charity begins at home. I almost became one of the 99%, but, I try to keep up with this stuff and did not realize just how much we were giving to some countries. I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, I think its necessary.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2015, 02:27:53 PM » |
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Well the lawmakers, senators and congressmen aren't feeling the pain, with so much money being passed around a good percentage is going into their pockets, both directly, and indirectly. you would be very hard pressed to find one that is not a multi millionaire. Things are like they are because that is the way they want it. Government has been turned into a giant Ponzi scheme.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2015, 02:31:35 PM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2015, 02:41:37 PM » |
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I kinda sorta am almost seeing Willow's point
For myself I think we have to do what we can, whenever we can
What I think is most neglected is that congress and the executive branch are like the animals in Orwell's Animal Farm
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All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others
Congress and the executive branch should NOT be special They should not have any benefits we dont have Countries that want us dead should not get a penny Now humanitarian efforts are probably lumped in that but what is really part of those hundreds of millions each country gets?
I think our VETERANS should be the only people who get special treatment first because they wrote that check payable for up to their lives and we OWE them a chance for jobs, health care (I love that Trump would let vets go to any hospital and have to be treated quickly and free nobody else says that) and respect
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2015, 04:33:22 PM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way. I did read your post but I did misunderstand that you were speaking of the Author and not the poster my bad 
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2015, 05:15:57 PM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way. There aren't many things we agree on, and, thats fine. I think I'll always believe that this country should take care of itself and Americans first. That said, I'd ride with you and give a ride in the old roadster or phaeton. Of course that would have to include a couple beers.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2015, 05:20:01 PM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way. There aren't many things we agree on, and, thats fine. I think I'll always believe that this country should take care of itself and Americans first. That said, I'd ride with you and give a ride in the old roadster or phaeton. Of course that would have to include a couple beers. I don't know Willow very well. But I feel pretty confident saying I doubt he drinks and rides.  I believe he has said he quit drinking some time ago.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2015, 06:35:29 PM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way. There aren't many things we agree on, and, thats fine. I think I'll always believe that this country should take care of itself and Americans first. That said, I'd ride with you and give a ride in the old roadster or phaeton. Of course that would have to include a couple beers. I don't know Willow very well. But I feel pretty confident saying I doubt he drinks and rides.  I believe he has said he quit drinking some time ago. LOL! It's a shame when the things on which we disagree get in the way of the few things we hold in common. It's been over forty years. Not only do I not drink alcohol I don't buy it, even for my friends. In some cases it would be a genuine temptation. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2015, 07:30:12 PM » |
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Americans don't need charity, they only need opportunity.
Opportunity is robbed by charity. Charity is for the sick, dying, children, elderly and those who can not for some reason help themselves. Those reasons vary for some but, too many Americans would rather live off the efforts of others than earn it for themselves. I also don't agree with giving billions of dollars away and trying to buy friends but, I will not support a social agenda where one can soak up the sweat and efforts of others and not have to achieve their own self sufficiency.
I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2015, 02:17:20 AM » |
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Americans don't need charity, they only need opportunity.
Opportunity is robbed by charity. Charity is for the sick, dying, children, elderly and those who can not for some reason help themselves. Those reasons vary for some but, too many Americans would rather live off the efforts of others than earn it for themselves. I also don't agree with giving billions of dollars away and trying to buy friends but, I will not support a social agenda where one can soak up the sweat and efforts of others and not have to achieve their own self sufficiency.
I'll leave it at that.
Amen Brother, Hear hear! 
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2015, 03:24:41 AM » |
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Americans don't need charity, they only need opportunity.
Opportunity is robbed by charity. Charity is for the sick, dying, children, elderly and those who can not for some reason help themselves. Those reasons vary for some but, too many Americans would rather live off the efforts of others than earn it for themselves. I also don't agree with giving billions of dollars away and trying to buy friends but, I will not support a social agenda where one can soak up the sweat and efforts of others and not have to achieve their own self sufficiency.
I'll leave it at that.
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. The term 'charity begins at home' is an old saying coming from the time of the Founding Fathers. When I say we should take care of ourselves I mean the things that everyone needs and uses, infrastructure, police, military etc. As I've mentioned many times, I don't have a problem with 'welfare' as long as its really needed and should then be paid back. The point of the OP I think was that with all we give to other countries we could 'pave our streets with gold'. [ Thats means we could take care of our country]
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2015, 03:32:53 AM » |
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... I think we should take care of ourselves first. I don't think thats selfish, ...
It is actually the definition of selfish. Of course the question remains whether it is valid selfishness or not. Bighead, I don't think you bothered to read my post. I did say specifically that I don't think we should be giving millions and billions of dollars to governments that obviously want us dead. The delusional reference was specifically qualified to if the original author (not our member) thinks the kind of poverty and starvation as are in Haiti exist in this country. I won't spend a lot of time arguing the point. I will simply agree to disagree with some that see it otherwise. I think it is popularly quipped that charity begins, or should begin, at home. I just don't see it that way. There aren't many things we agree on, and, thats fine. I think I'll always believe that this country should take care of itself and Americans first. That said, I'd ride with you and give a ride in the old roadster or phaeton. Of course that would have to include a couple beers. I don't know Willow very well. But I feel pretty confident saying I doubt he drinks and rides.  I believe he has said he quit drinking some time ago. LOL! It's a shame when the things on which we disagree get in the way of the few things we hold in common. It's been over forty years. Not only do I not drink alcohol I don't buy it, even for my friends. In some cases it would be a genuine temptation.  Well, OK. That leaves more for the others. Of course, that comes after the ride, not during.
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