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Patrick
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« on: November 17, 2015, 07:25:49 AM »

http://www.cbn.com/tv/embedplayer.aspx?bcid=1509282970001
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2015, 10:34:41 AM »

I didn't know this how sad and scary ,thanks for posting.

In France they issued a state of emergency

I thought about the US and this came to mind,

 One day, possibly soon, if the follow-up terrorist attacks begin as we have been warned, the President of the United States might appear on national TV to announce that he is placing the United States in a formal state of National Emergency. With the stroke of his pen, the President would invoke the terrible powers of F.E.M.A. -- Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Did you know that, on November 14, 1994, President Clinton issued an Executive Order #12938 because Weapons of Mass Destruction exist in such quantity and deliverability as to constitute a mortal threat to the United States? "Now, the Executive Order that will implement this, the Executive Order 11051, details responsibilities to the Office of Emergency Planning or F.E.M.A.. It gives authorization to put ALL Executive orders into effect in time of national emergency declared by the President, increased international tension, or financial crisis.

  Note that it covers every conceivable domestic crisis, but does not even mention war or nuclear attack."

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2015, 01:09:34 PM »

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!  Evil Democracy is WRONG Christians are WRONG If you go against sharia law YOU ARE WRONG. So WHAT ZACKLY is the upside of being a mooslim?? Other than you git to eliminate non believers. After watching that video do you STILL think it's a "religion" of peace? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2015, 03:10:05 PM »

That religion should be banned and if caught you are now a threat to national security. Stack them on a boat and ship them back. Who in the right mind would want what they believe here in the USA? yes I understand freedom of religion but if they are not citizens then they are disqualified from that amendment. They all shold be treated as a national security risk. They have their own country to practice what they believe.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 04:11:22 PM »

That religion should be banned and if caught you are now a threat to national security. Stack them on a boat and ship them back. Who in the right mind would want what they believe here in the USA? yes I understand freedom of religion but if they are not citizens then they are disqualified from that amendment. They all shold be treated as a national security risk. They have their own country to practice what they believe.

Doesn't work that way. The Bill of Rights does not bestow rights to the people. The Bill of Rights Prohibits the Government from denying the people those rights. Whether a citizen or not. An illegal alien can come to this country and say whatever they want. You can deport them for being here illegally but you can't deport them because you disagree with what they say.

But when it comes to religious freedom, there is a requirement that is self evident. That requirement is a reciprocal value. By that I mean that I respect your religion and you respect mine. Freedom of religion cannot exist without that simple value.

With Islam, the only religion they respect is Islam. The elimination of other religions is a tenant of Islam. Islam does not reciprocate the respect for other religions. Therefore, in my opinion of course, the Government need not be restrained by the Constitution in isolating and constricting Islam as Islam fails in the reciprocal requirement.

You cannot expect to be free to exercise your religious freedom if it means killing people and destroying  things that don't conform to your religion.

A full court press on the financials and 24-7 surveillance on the Islamic community is warranted.

And the latino illegals from down south? Let'em in. They are mostly Christians. We are probably going to need'em. Just as well load up our team.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 05:19:39 PM »

Doesn't work that way. The Bill of Rights does not bestow rights to the people. The Bill of Rights Prohibits the Government from denying the people those rights. ...

It's a common misconception pushed these days that the Constitution (the government) grants rights.  The view of the founding fathers was that were already there and a good government would affirm them.

Of course there would have been some exceptions and some disagreement.  Most, if not all, the founding fathers did not believe women had the right to participate in voting.  WE could have a long discussion on whether that was wisdom or error. 

I don't think it would be American to deny people entrance because of their religion, but there must be some way of determining whether a prospective immigrant believed someone (or anyone) else's religion made them worthy of elimination.  For that I would deny entrance in a heartbeat. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2015, 06:00:10 PM »

It doesn't end in the EU.
My former hometown has become a battleground.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/12/sharia-michigan-dearborn-couple-threatened-islamists-openly-displaying-israeli-american-flag/

http://godfatherpolitics.com/21799/arabic-streets-signs-in-american-city-indicates-islamic-takeover/#SvDyLcKrWwBluoPp.99

http://nationalreport.net/dearborn-michigan-public-school-adopts-strict-islamic-halal-dietary-regime/
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2015, 06:07:09 PM »

Well we have a disconnect

Its because a person is "supposed" to swear allegiance to this country and the constitution that the people created in which the people of the colonies (States) bestowed power to the Federal government

The disconnect is that the Koran specifically instructs its followers
(is Islam facism by definition?  I will not answer that question here)
to lie to the infidel as the goal of Islam is total domination of the world and nothing less, with the elimination of all non believers
(this means Christians, Jews, Hindu, Buddist, and of course homosexual of either gender)  

One can not be a democratic muslim and not be a target of islamic fundamentalism just as one can not espouse democracy to an islamic cleric and expect a truthful answer.  Lest one forget, the moslem caliphates were supporters of the axis in the world wars  It was only the promise of riches from oil that held them in the pull of western power (USA)

Dont worry about giving the women the right to vote Willow, worry that they could be killed for driving to the grocery store, dating without a chaperone or beheaded for an allegation of adultery with no proof and of course school is closed for them
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 06:30:17 PM »

Islam is NOT a religion it IS a CULT!

As a dangerous cult that has killed millions of people it Should Be Banned!


Five Reasons Why Islam is a Cult:

1. A Muslim who quits Islam has to worry about being killed by another Muslim.
This is the first rule of Islam. This is why so few Muslims quit the faith.
The most frequently quoted Islamic theological source is Sahih Al-Bukhari Number 6922: Allah’s apostle said, “if anyone changes his (Islamic) religion, then kill him.”


2. Muslims are encouraged to commit violence in the name of Islam.
Muslim theological documents — the Koran, Hadith, and Sunna — are filled with statements which encourage devout Muslims to commit violence in the name of Islam.

•   Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
•   Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123)
•   When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
•   Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
•   Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
•   The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
•   Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam (5:33)
•   The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
•   Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
•   Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
•   The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
•   Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
•   Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)


3. Islam does not allow criticism or change.
Islam considers anyone who criticizes or tries to change Islam guilty of blasphemy. And blasphemy is an capital crime under Sharia law. As a result any Muslim who even critiques or attempts to change Islam has to worry about being murdered by some devout Muslim.
It is bad enough that Muslims can’t criticize Islam, but this rule even applies to non-Muslims in non-Muslim societies. Just look at what happened to Theo Van Gogh in Amsterdam. He made a short movie about women in Islam. As Van Gogh walked to work one morning, he was murdered by a devout Muslim named Mohammed Bouyeri. At his trial the murderer told the court Van Gogh had insulted Islam. “What moved me to do what I did was purely my faith,” Bouyeri went on. “I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his prophet.”


4. Muslim theology teaches hatred of non-Muslims.
This practice is widespread within Islamic society.
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI.org) has recorded and translated hundreds of television broadcasts in which Muslim religious leaders encourage hatred and violence against non-Muslims, and especially the Jews.



5. Islam matches the “Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups” according to the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA).

•   The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
•   Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
•   Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
•   The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry — or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
•   The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar — or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
•   The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
•   The leader is not accountable to any authorities.
•   The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
•   The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
•   Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
•   The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
•   Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
•   Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
•   The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
I know it is hard to imagine — 20% of humanity is tied up in a deceptive murderous cult — but that’s exactly what the situation is. Islam is a contagious cult that incites its followers to commit violence. Either the non-Muslim world unites and deals with this intellectual Islamic scourge, or Islam will continue its expansion.


http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/01/five-reasons-why-islam-is-a-cult/
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 10:04:41 PM »

        Makes one wonder WHY they knuckled under to them!  uglystupid2 C'mon over achmed and have some bacon with me. No bacon? How bout pork ribs and a cold brewski? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2015, 05:03:46 AM »



They (city of Dearborn) knucklrd under because muslims are the majority (85%) population.
And in the last local election (11,02,15), the city of Hamtramack MI now has a majority of the city counsel as muslims. They want to be the first all muslim city in the US. Hamtramack was once known internationally as a Polish-American city with 98% of the population as Roman Catholics.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2015, 05:56:34 AM »



They (city of Dearborn) knucklrd under because muslims are the majority (85%) population.
And in the last local election (11,02,15), the city of Hamtramack MI now has a majority of the city counsel as muslims. They want to be the first all muslim city in the US. Hamtramack was once known internationally a a Polish-American city with 98% of the population as Roman Catholics.

And right there is the biggest problem we face.  The new immigrants do not wish to "assimilate".  It's not immigration any longer as much as it seems to be colonization.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2015, 10:41:23 AM »

Contrary to conventional thinking, Islam is NOT protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.

  Islam is NOT a religion in the sense we understand religion. Islam—which stands for “submission” or “surrender”—is about COMPLETE DOMINANCE. It is a totalitarian form of government that controls every aspect of the lives of its adherents.

Most religions don't want or describe a system of government but Sharia is law.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 10:51:33 AM »

Muslims and Christians began fighting over 1000 years ago, so, I doubt it'll stop any time soon.

Even though we were founded on freedom of religion, I'm not sure our Founding Fathers thought much about Islam.  [ Heck, it didn't long for the Pilgrims and Puritans to start fighting].
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