Father tells son he will protect him from guns with flowers/

[bigguy]

The absolute, mind numbing idiocy of this should cause a warp in space-time.
The little boy obviously has a much better grasp on reality than the father. The moral failure is enough to make you cry. The little boy says, But flowers can't do anything about guns."
The father then lies to him insisting that flowers and candles will keep them safe. Even after the child questions the idiotic statement several time.

Flowers can't do anything against gund

[Bighead]

Idiot

[Moonshot_1]

This is assuming the subtitles are accurate.

Perhaps the word Protect was Comfort or support.

But what we have here is an Asian family that has immigrated to France being interviewed by French media about a major traumatic terrorist event which is being subtitled in English.

So I would not read too much into this.

[FLAVALK]

Saw this on the news. I took it as the father trying to comfort the kid

[Bighead]

Big difference between comforting and right out lying.

[Willow]

He's dealing with a toddler in the manner in which he thinks the toddler can process.  Whether he actually embraces that for himself is not known.

Some of us do what the toddler is doing.  That is to say we make the danger larger than it actually is based upon our response to the media reports making it seem specifically real and close.

Please don't misunderstand me.  I don't want to diminish how terrible these acts are and how evil the perpetrators are.  The response though that even living or being in the city of Paris puts one at imminent risk is more than is justified.  That's what makes terrorism work.

There are 2 and a quarter million people in Paris.  Including both killed and injured there were between five and six hundred people.  It is terrible and not in any way acceptable what happened to most of those people (excluding the perpetrators) but in relation to the people in Paris as a potential, the mathematical odds are minuscule.  

That is what makes terrorism work.  They don't have to make the odds one in four, one in ten or even one in a hundred.  All they have to do is touch a relatively small number of lives and then let the mass hysteria make them seem much more powerful than they are.

On a positive note, although I don't have numbers on the reflex attack I'm pretty sure the French killed more terrorists than the terrorists killed French this past weekend.  May it ever be so.  

And for the record I agree completely that there would have been many fewer than 129 killed in that stadium if every fourth person had been carrying a firearm.  The best solution to bad people with guns is good people with guns.

[DirtyDan]

He's dealing with a toddler in the manner in which he thinks the toddler can process

some toddlers learn earlier than others

I learned hand to hand combat before I learned to tie my shoe

hope those flowers are made of Kevlar

dan

[The emperor has no clothes]

It seems there are many here who have not raised children.

[BradValk48237]

Yes he said the candles and flowers would protect him....

I feltl that what he meant is that the spirit of the People leaving those items were what were going to protect him.... the people that weren't going to let a bunch of A##hole murderers ruin their lives....

Thats what the Dad was saying to a toddler that saw all the people committed to this....

What should he have said???.. "Yes son,. . the world is a shitty place and there is nothing but fear and guns for the rest of your life..... deal with it"..........?!?!?!?!?

I think he is a great Dad for taking his son to see that fear is not an option to life....

B

[Bighead]

I feltl that what he meant is that the spirit of the People leaving those items were what were going to protect him.... the people that weren't going to let a bunch of A##hole murderers ruin their lives....




B

Do you think the kid has the mental capacity to process this in this way?

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

The private ownership of firearms in France appears to be more difficult than it is here. At least here in Indiana that is.

Under those circumstances, candles & flowers might seem to be all they have. I'd be more inclined to be thinking bricks and knifes instead of flowers if it was me though.

When the kids in our family get worried about bad guys or zombies (doesn't happen much) we simply remind them that we possess firearms and will protect them.

[MP]

Heard that the reaction was to tighten the gun laws, which already make it almost impossible to own guns there.

Guess what? ALL the guns the terrorists had were illigal!
Why is it impossible for libs to grasp the concept that bad guys dont obey gun laws?

I bet a lot of the people in the theater were wishing 20 or 30 patrons had guns! The death toll would not have been over 80!

[crow]

, I've not raised children,  but I think he's a great parent.  Terrorists are not afraid to die,  we must not be afraid to live!

[bigguy]

He's a terrible parent. He's lying to his child, setting him up for a disastrous outcome when he runs into somebody not impressed with flowers.
What should he tell his child? That I will keep you safe. Then get off his keister and do so by what ever means is necessary.

This isn't theory. I grew up 100 mile south of the Fulda gap in the sixties on military bases. My parents aleved my fears by having a plan and making sure I knew my part in it. My dad also left no doubt that he could handle any other man who came to harm us.

Sticking your head up your keister with wishful thinking and training your children to do the same is absolutely piss poor parenting, and the child will ultimately pay the price for it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

He's a terrible parent. He's lying to his child, setting him up for a disastrous outcome when he runs into somebody not impressed with flowers.
What should he tell his child? That I will keep you safe. Then get off his keister and do so by what ever means is necessary.

This isn't theory. I grew up 100 mile south of the Fulda gap in the sixties on military bases. My parents aleved my fears by having a plan and making sure I knew my part in it. My dad also left no doubt that he could handle any other man who came to harm us.

Sticking your head up your keister with wishful thinking and training your children to do the same is absolutely piss poor parenting, and the child will ultimately pay the price for it.

WTF ! We lie to our kids
all the time. About all kinds of things. Do you want to tell your 3 year old about having sex with their Mom last night ?  Do want to tell them about everything ?

[rusty]

"""""""""""The absolute, mind numbing idiocy of this should cause a warp in space-time.
The little boy obviously has a much better grasp on reality than the father. The moral failure is enough to make you cry. The little boy says, But flowers can't do anything about guns."
The father then lies to him insisting that flowers and candles will keep them safe. Even after the child questions the idiotic statement several time."""""""""""

WOW I KNOW WHERE TO COME WHEN I WANT TO READ FOOLISHNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what in the world do you think should be said to a 3 year old?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
you must have a rag wrapped a round your head

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!

[bigguy]

He's a terrible parent. He's lying to his child, setting him up for a disastrous outcome when he runs into somebody not impressed with flowers.
What should he tell his child? That I will keep you safe. Then get off his keister and do so by what ever means is necessary.

This isn't theory. I grew up 100 mile south of the Fulda gap in the sixties on military bases. My parents aleved my fears by having a plan and making sure I knew my part in it. My dad also left no doubt that he could handle any other man who came to harm us.

Sticking your head up your keister with wishful thinking and training your children to do the same is absolutely piss poor parenting, and the child will ultimately pay the price for it.

WTF ! We lie to our kids
all the time. About all kinds of things. Do you want to tell your 3 year old about having sex with their Mom last night ?  Do want to tell them about everything ?

This is a complete non sequitur. The problem is the the father chooses to live in a dream world and is training his child to do the same. Would you tell a kid being attacked by a large dog to throw flowers at it, or would you get you butt out there are protect him, even if you get bite in the process? All the kid need to know is you, the father, are on it. Be sure that you are.

[The emperor has no clothes]

He's a terrible parent. He's lying to his child, setting him up for a disastrous outcome when he runs into somebody not impressed with flowers.
What should he tell his child? That I will keep you safe. Then get off his keister and do so by what ever means is necessary.

This isn't theory. I grew up 100 mile south of the Fulda gap in the sixties on military bases. My parents aleved my fears by having a plan and making sure I knew my part in it. My dad also left no doubt that he could handle any other man who came to harm us.

Sticking your head up your keister with wishful thinking and training your children to do the same is absolutely piss poor parenting, and the child will ultimately pay the price for it.

WTF ! We lie to our kids
all the time. About all kinds of things. Do you want to tell your 3 year old about having sex with their Mom last night ?  Do want to tell them about everything ?

This is a complete non sequitur. The problem is the the father chooses to live in a dream world and is training his child to do the same. Would you tell a kid being attacked by a large dog to throw flowers at it, or would you get you butt out there are protect him, even if you get bite in the process? All the kid need to know is you, the father, are on it. Be sure that you are.

You might be right. But I don't see how you can determine all of that from what I saw. My point is we try to shield our kids from stuff until we feel they are mature enough to handle it.

[fudgie]

I would just get on my unicorn and ride away from danger.

[Bighead]

Sounded like ( if translation is correct ) the kid has a better grasp on reality than dad does.

[DK]

There is a cultural disconnect at play being overlooked.

Americans of our age react in the manner of John Wayne, other nationalities, not so much.

Dan

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would just get on my unicorn and ride away from danger.

Uh... wouldn't it be "fly away from danger" My unicorn flies pretty fast. 

[bigguy]

I would just get on my unicorn and ride away from danger.

Uh... wouldn't it be "fly away from danger" My unicorn flies pretty fast. 

They can fly? and here I though all they could do was poop ice cream.
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