clock boy

[old2soon]

Back in Sept. they thought his home built clock was a bomb. The family has since moved to Qatar. The family is now suing most everyone in Irving Texas for $15000000.00!  That IS Fifteen Million.  You WILL recollect that zero invited the kid to the W.H. RIDE SAFE.

[Wizzard]

Turns out it was just a kit that he bought and put together.

[art]

Betcha they cave in and he gets millions. Nobody has the balls to say get lost,even the courts. Disgusting.

[MarkT]

I understood it was a Radio Shack clock board and display he took the outside covers off and claimed it was his work.  That's the sort of thing that will get students expelled for plaigarism in some ethical schools.  Behave like that at any of the academies, have it proven and you will get expelled likely with charges against you that might earn you severe penalties - fines, go to the brig, dishonorable discharge, that sort of thing.  But in today's society - they are more concerned about the FEELINGS of the poor wretches than if they have any ethics.

[Wizzard]

Mark  you jogged my memory. you are in fact correct. Now what has this kid learned? That he can cheat and get away with it and get support from our president. He should run for office.  

[Pepmyster]

Mark  you jogged my memory. you are in fact correct. Now what has this kid learned? That he can cheat and get away with it and get support from our president. He should fun for office. 

Sick but true.........................

[Fudd]

And if they don't pay him his ransom, is he going to connect some loose wires on his little detonation device to some explosives?

[RP#62]

Let me make sure I got this right.  Average little elementary school kid makes a hand gesture that looks like a gun, or bites a pop tart in the shape of a gun and they get expelled.  Average little muslim kid make what looks like an improvised explosive device and brings it to school and is offended by his handling by officials and subsequently gets invited to the White House.  Yeah, that seems OK.
 
I actually think the kid is innocent, I think the whole thing was orchestrated by the father to achieve this result.

-RP

[old2soon]

Let me make sure I got this right.  Average little elementary school kid makes a hand gesture that looks like a gun, or bites a pop tart in the shape of a gun and they get expelled.  Average little muslim kid make what looks like an improvised explosive device and brings it to school and is offended by his handling by officials and subsequently gets invited to the White House.  Yeah, that seems OK.
  
I actually think the kid is innocent, I think the whole thing was orchestrated by the father to achieve this result.

-RP

        Soooo yer sayin daddy did his homework??   It all seems very contrived.   Move to Qatar and THEN file the lawsuit!   NOW I'm forced to conclude-money grubbin rat basturds!   RIDE SAFE.

[Alpha Dog]

Let me make sure I got this right.  Average little elementary school kid makes a hand gesture that looks like a gun, or bites a pop tart in the shape of a gun and they get expelled.  Average little muslim kid make what looks like an improvised explosive device and brings it to school and is offended by his handling by officials and subsequently gets invited to the White House.  Yeah, that seems OK.
 
I actually think the kid is innocent, I think the whole thing was orchestrated by the father to achieve this result.

-RP

Bingo.  When I heard this today had exact same thoughts.  A real pres would revisit papa with a drown.   Could just call it clocklatteral damage

[The emperor has no clothes]

Let me make sure I got this right.  Average little elementary school kid makes a hand gesture that looks like a gun, or bites a pop tart in the shape of a gun and they get expelled.  Average little muslim kid make what looks like an improvised explosive device and brings it to school and is offended by his handling by officials and subsequently gets invited to the White House.  Yeah, that seems OK.
 
I actually think the kid is innocent, I think the whole thing was orchestrated by the father to achieve this result.

-RP

Bingo.  When I heard this today had exact same thoughts.  A real pres would revisit papa with a drown.   Could just call it clocklatteral damage

Holy crap ! You are saying the Dad should be killed with a drone ? And that a real president would have that done ?

[highmiles]

Do you think the clock boy took his "clock" with him to qutar with a free pass from nobama's TSA?

[Wizzard]

Question I ask it why the hell did Obama have his nose in this to start with? Seems to me he just likes to jump on this stuff to make himself feel good. No President should get involved in this stuff at all.

[WilliamRS]

Back in Sept. they thought his home built clock was a bomb. The family has since moved to Qatar. The family is now suing most everyone in Irving Texas for $15000000.00!  That IS Fifteen Million.  You WILL recollect that zero invited the kid to the W.H. RIDE SAFE.

nobody thought it was a bomb, otherwise the school would have been evacuated.

the kid never made a threat, never pretended it was more than what it was (a clock in a pencil case) never told anybody that it was a 'bomb'  never pretended that it was a bomb, didn't call in a bomb threat to the school, so just where did the adults in the room come up with the 'hoax bomb' charge against this kid?

[MP]

To sue, you need "damages". What ere his damages?
Invite to WH.
Getting on natl tv, where he said getting arrested was "cool".
Scholarship to school in Quitar.

Yep, damaged for 15 mill for sure!

The reason for arrest was noncooperation. Ya, he did not claim it was bomb. But, would not explain it either, at the time.

Maybe if I got my grandson a $50 kit rocket, obama would invite him over, and he would get scholarship to MIT!


Na, hes just a white, christian male. Nothing for him

[Serk]

Bringing a hoax bomb to school is a crime, it doesn't have to be a real bomb. And his non-cooperation when asked about his hoax-bomb didn't help him any.

Steve Wozniak (The REAL genius behind Apple) spent a night in prison for bringing a hoax bomb to school back in the day. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/steve-wozniak-spent-a-night-in-jail-for-making-a-fake-bomb-in-hi/21237617/

[98valk]

was he just a test of school officials awareness? testing the enemy's limits??

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate#

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.11242/pub_detail.asp

bombs more precious than children...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y


Why??
http://theinstituteforjihadiresearch.org/category/a-culture-war/mosques-off-limits-to-fbi/

for deniers...u know who u are....
http://muslimjihad.org/the-jihad/

[highmiles]

It all boils down to this: what the libs can't ban they mandate and what they can't mandate they ban.

[WilliamRS]

Bringing a hoax bomb to school is a crime, it doesn't have to be a real bomb. And his non-cooperation when asked about his hoax-bomb didn't help him any.

Steve Wozniak (The REAL genius behind Apple) spent a night in prison for bringing a hoax bomb to school back in the day. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/steve-wozniak-spent-a-night-in-jail-for-making-a-fake-bomb-in-hi/21237617/

i am not sure that I would be cooperative with the authorities in that situation either.  they were asking stupid questions of that kid. and a lot of kids that age would be obstinate in the face of stupidity from adults.

 in what way was it a hoax bomb?  did it have anything attached to it that could be misconstrued as containing an explosive?  it was a clock. no more no less.  even the cops dropped the hoax bomb charges (and again, they did not evacuate the building)

[Serk]

Bringing a hoax bomb to school is a crime, it doesn't have to be a real bomb. And his non-cooperation when asked about his hoax-bomb didn't help him any.

Steve Wozniak (The REAL genius behind Apple) spent a night in prison for bringing a hoax bomb to school back in the day. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/steve-wozniak-spent-a-night-in-jail-for-making-a-fake-bomb-in-hi/21237617/

i am not sure that I would be cooperative with the authorities in that situation either.  they were asking stupid questions of that kid. and a lot of kids that age would be obstinate in the face of stupidity from adults.

 in what way was it a hoax bomb?  did it have anything attached to it that could be misconstrued as containing an explosive?  it was a clock. no more no less.  even the cops dropped the hoax bomb charges (and again, they did not evacuate the building)

Taking a regular clock out of it's casing and stuffing the parts into a pencil case isn't exactly "making" a clock, something else is going on here. But yeah, it looks a LOT like a suitcase bomb... Enough that asking the kid WTF he was doing with it at school was fully warranted.

[dreamaker]

You guys bring up some good points, the whole thing baffles me. A white kid brings a electronic project to school, and get in trouble. Some of the things we built in our childhood days, we would still be in jail. They were just experiments and tests to learn about things, and how they work. We didn't have the resources and the internet, so we had to figure it out ourselves. We didn't do things to hurt anyone or damage anything. But the way this whole thing is being handled, seems extreme and excessive for the norm. Makes me think of a hidden agenda, I know it sounds silly, but I never exclude it. Is it me, and not just this situation, but people that commit crimes these day seem to get more rights than the people that go by the rules.

[WilliamRS]

Bringing a hoax bomb to school is a crime, it doesn't have to be a real bomb. And his non-cooperation when asked about his hoax-bomb didn't help him any.

Steve Wozniak (The REAL genius behind Apple) spent a night in prison for bringing a hoax bomb to school back in the day. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/steve-wozniak-spent-a-night-in-jail-for-making-a-fake-bomb-in-hi/21237617/

i am not sure that I would be cooperative with the authorities in that situation either.  they were asking stupid questions of that kid. and a lot of kids that age would be obstinate in the face of stupidity from adults.

 in what way was it a hoax bomb?  did it have anything attached to it that could be misconstrued as containing an explosive?  it was a clock. no more no less.  even the cops dropped the hoax bomb charges (and again, they did not evacuate the building)

Taking a regular clock out of it's casing and stuffing the parts into a pencil case isn't exactly "making" a clock, something else is going on here. But yeah, it looks a LOT like a suitcase bomb... Enough that asking the kid WTF he was doing with it at school was fully warranted.

it is a small pencil box, not a suitcase.  This style of pencil box has also been used by other hobbyists for small electronic projects. The adults in the school over reacted.  putting the kid in handcuffs was an over reaction.   

Whether he 'made' a clock or merely tinkered with an old clock to reconfigure it to fit his pencil case doesn't change the fact that it is actually only a clock.

[old2soon]

So WHEN not IF when they win the lawsuit follow the money-see who gets paid off. WHAT-you thought they were gonna lose?? Kids got zeros backing. RIDE SAFE.

[Wizzard]

This is true,, and it was over reacted. But, the kid did disassemble a commercial clock and claimed he built it and he did none of the sort. He cheated, plain and simple and everyone ignores this fact including our POTUS. Now he wants rewarded with a huge sum of money and an apology without ever admitting his wrong. This crap needs to stop.

[WilliamRS]

This is true,, and it was over reacted. But, the kid did disassemble a commercial clock and claimed he built it and he did none of the sort. He cheated, plain and simple and everyone ignores this fact including our POTUS. Now he wants rewarded with a huge sum of money and an apology without ever admitting his wrong. This crap needs to stop.

he never claimed that he built a clock from scratch.  he said that he put together the project in about 20 minutes the night  before

[dreamaker]

I guess I am missing something here!!  OK! Whether he built the clock or not, what was the point of taking the clock built/apart and put it in to a case and take it to school and class? What was his intentions?

[MP]

This is true,, and it was over reacted. But, the kid did disassemble a commercial clock and claimed he built it and he did none of the sort. He cheated, plain and simple and everyone ignores this fact including our POTUS. Now he wants rewarded with a huge sum of money and an apology without ever admitting his wrong. This crap needs to stop.

he never claimed that he built a clock from scratch.  he said that he put together the project in about 20 minutes the night  before

And, THAT warrants the President holding him up as an example of the "best and brightest"?

POTUS sure has LOW standards.

[Wizzard]

I guess I am missing something here!!  OK! Whether he built the clock or not, what was the point of taking the clock built/apart and put it in to a case and take it to school and class? What was his intentions?

His intentions were as he stated. He built a clock all on his own, as if he was some kind of wiz kid.

[dreamaker]

Now if he is a so called Wiz Kid, then why wouldn't he know, you don't take ticking boxes or carrying cases with disassembled clocks in them to school.  The idea of it, just scrambles my brain. Now let just think out of the box, for a minute(no pun intended) lets say it was planed that way, children can't do hard time, but end up with 15mill in the end. Just thinking a little radically, I can't  comprehend any one, with the Media and Internet highway of information, can think that was an innocent act, maybe so, I don't know.

[RP#62]

Doesn't matter what his intentions were, doesn't matter what he built or claimed to build.  He brought something to school that looked threatening to others and got called on it.  Other kids have gotten the same treatment for much much less.  Why should he be treated any differently? 

-RP

[Jess from VA]

Doesn't matter what his intentions were, doesn't matter what he built or claimed to build.  He brought something to school that looked threatening to others and got called on it.  Other kids have gotten the same treatment for much much less.  Why should he be treated any differently? 

-RP

 

It looked very reasonably threatening.  Unlike say a cookie chewed into a gun shape.

And the school acted reasonably as well, so their claim for millions isn't even worth settlement value (although only Allah knows what insurance companies will do). 

[dreamaker]

I am not making excuses, but thinking back when we were young, when we built or accomplished something, we don't think of the politics that surrounds us. We just present our deeds with our personal pride. Now thinking, maybe to most it was no big deal of accomplishment, but maybe to him it was, and never considered the out come, because he was focused on a pat one the back, rather than a set hand cuffs.

[Wizzard]

I am not making excuses, but thinking back when we were young, when we built or accomplished something, we don't think of the politics that surrounds us. We just present our deeds with our personal pride. Now thinking, maybe to most it was no big deal of accomplishment, but maybe to him it was, and never considered the out come, because he was focused on a pat one the back, rather than a set hand cuffs.

I agree with you but fact is he did not build anything. He took a commercial clock apart and tried to take credit for it or at least give the impression that he built it. Can you say deception?

[3fan4life]

Bringing a hoax bomb to school is a crime, it doesn't have to be a real bomb. And his non-cooperation when asked about his hoax-bomb didn't help him any.

Steve Wozniak (The REAL genius behind Apple) spent a night in prison for bringing a hoax bomb to school back in the day. http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/17/steve-wozniak-spent-a-night-in-jail-for-making-a-fake-bomb-in-hi/21237617/

i am not sure that I would be cooperative with the authorities in that situation either.  they were asking stupid questions of that kid. and a lot of kids that age would be obstinate in the face of stupidity from adults.

 in what way was it a hoax bomb?  did it have anything attached to it that could be misconstrued as containing an explosive?  it was a clock. no more no less.  even the cops dropped the hoax bomb charges (and again, they did not evacuate the building)

Taking a regular clock out of it's casing and stuffing the parts into a pencil case isn't exactly "making" a clock, something else is going on here. But yeah, it looks a LOT like a suitcase bomb... Enough that asking the kid WTF he was doing with it at school was fully warranted.

it is a small pencil box, not a suitcase.  This style of pencil box has also been used by other hobbyists for small electronic projects. The adults in the school over reacted.  putting the kid in handcuffs was an over reaction.   

Whether he 'made' a clock or merely tinkered with an old clock to reconfigure it to fit his pencil case doesn't change the fact that it is actually only a clock.

It does look more like a bomb than a clock:



I'd say that for once a school system did a good job of not overreacting to something. 

[DirtyDan]

the phrase self defense comes to mind

what if he was next to you on a plane, train, bus, etc ?

dan

[Serk]

From Obama's Department of Homeland Defense:

http://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something



I guess the site needs to add an *Does not apply if the suspicious person happens to be Muslim.

[dreamaker]

Again! I am not making excuses. I am just trying to think with an open, objective mind, and think like a child's mindset. On the most part, children are innocent and basically have no fear, maybe it applies to this case, AND maybe it don't. I had a talent of taking things apart and using them, for other than what they were intended.  I am just saying, to look at it in the eyes of an ambitious, creative child, first, I am not saying he is innocent, but their maybe a slight possibility.  The way I see it all, is the whole situation is a wash, on both parties.  Due to todays issues, the child and parent should have used better discretion before submitting to class. It seems to me that a child's first reaction, would be to show the parents to get their approval first, then submit it.
Far as the school and the authorities are concerned, their actions may have been slightly over reacting, but better safe than sorry. If I was still a child, I would have probably said "COOL", but then as an Adult I would maybe said "Holy Crap"!!!