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Author Topic: Summary of the situation in the Middle East (Obviously non-Valk)  (Read 772 times)
Serk
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« on: November 24, 2015, 07:01:55 AM »

Sorry for another post beating this dead horse, but this explained the situation right now I thought very well. I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions but it's still a pretty good summary of just how  tickedoff 'ed up the situation is over there right now...

-----Begin cut and paste from some random Facebook post (NOT claiming this as my work)-----

President Assad ( who is bad ) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels ( who are good ) started winning ( Hurrah!).
But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy ( who are still good.)

So the Americans ( who are good ) started bombing Islamic State ( who are bad ) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) so they could fight Assad ( who is still bad ) which was good.
By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.
So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad ( who is still bad ) by attacking IS ( who are also bad ) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans ( who are good ) who are busy backing and arming the rebels ( who are also good).

Now Iran ( who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good ) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad ( still bad ) as are the Russians ( bad ) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad ( still bad ) Putin ( extra bad ) and the Iranians ( good, but in a bad sort of way ) are going to attack IS ( who are bad ) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels ( who are good ) which is bad.

Now the British ( obviously good, except that nice Mr Corbyn in the corduroy jacket, who is probably bad ) and the Americans ( also good ) cannot attack Assad ( still bad ) for fear of upsetting Putin ( bad ) and Iran ( good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS ( who are super bad).

So Assad ( bad ) is now probably good, being better than IS ( but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there ) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America ( still Good ) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin ( now good ) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran ( also Good ) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS ( still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims ( Assad and Iran ) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good ( Doh!.)

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal ( mmm.might have a point.) and hence we will be seen as Bad.

So now we have America ( now bad ) and Britain ( also bad ) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels ( bad ) many of whom are looking to IS ( Good / bad ) for support against Assad ( now good ) who, along with Iran ( also Good) and Putin ( also, now, unbelievably, Good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

So, now you fully understand everything, all your questions are answered!!!!   
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DirtyDan
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 07:19:48 AM »

the people who want to kill .....will

unless killed first

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 08:42:01 AM »

Used ta wuz the enemy of my enemy is my fiend!  crazy2 BUT-THAT word again-who REALLY knows who ya can trust.  Evil I have no/none/nada/zero trust in our gubmint AT ALL.  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2015, 08:59:59 AM »

Dang Serk.  After that spiel it is all crystal clear to me now which is good  -----   I think Lips Sealed
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2015, 10:49:27 AM »

lay off the ethanol..................

I almost understood that   2funny
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2015, 01:46:33 PM »

Hey man.... the CIA needs some good analysts.    cooldude

You throw in Iran, Saudi, Yemen, Hamas, Hezbollah, Shia-Sunni-relations, and it gets even harder to figure out.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2015, 02:03:03 PM »


   No worries about any of those issues. 4 hours ago.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris.

     Problem solved.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2015, 02:52:46 PM »


   No worries about any of those issues. 4 hours ago.

    Obama: What a “powerful rebuke” it will be to ISIS to hold a climate-change summit in Paris.

     Problem solved.

I thought this was a joke.

by God, he actually said that. What a buffoon.

ISIS must be shivering in their boots. THAT MUST BE IT!

WE MUST SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING SO IT WILL GET COLD AND ISIS WILL SHIVER IN THEIR BOOTS!

GENIUS!

And to think I thought a Destroy Terrorism Summit in Paris would be a powerful rebuke.

I'm sure after the climate change summit they will follow with the Ice Cream and cookie summit.

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2015, 03:06:04 PM »

Well, O keeps telling us global warming is our biggest threat.

Terrorist attacks, such as paris, are just "setbacks".

How do you argue with someone that screwed up?
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2015, 03:26:33 PM »

Serk - You and I must be on the same email list !!
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2015, 03:46:11 PM »

so the article is good so it is bad? 

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2015, 04:05:37 PM »



  Remember, on the left it’s conventional wisdom that climate change helped instigate the Syrian civil war: A sustained drought created social unrest that provided the kindling and then the Arab Spring struck the match. But for global warming, there might not be an ISIS.

How come the Christians and Jews and other religions in the middle east haven’t gone ape sh!t crazy and tried to kill everyone. Are they immune to the effects of global warming. Only Muslims are affected? Sounds racist to me.   

  I did a copy paste from a blog but totally agree
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2015, 06:15:39 PM »

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/09/11/founding-fathers-first-war-was-defending-america-from-islam-treaty-of-tripoli/                     coolsmiley
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2015, 07:18:11 PM »

I think if we would just leave the muslims to themselves.... they would kill themselves off... problem solved...
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2015, 09:24:45 PM »

I think if we would just leave the muslims to themselves.... they would kill themselves off... problem solved...

      Yeah BUT while killing each other off they kinda wanna take us out also!  Undecided THAT I have a Major problem with.  Lips Sealed Did I mention the wanna take over OUR country?  uglystupid2 Gotta MAJOR problem with THAT to-we ARE already here!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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