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« on: November 28, 2015, 10:28:02 AM » |
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hey all
ive been looking around the internet trying to find a modern built 10 gauge double barreled shotgun with no luck
any input would be helpful
dan
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 11:39:34 AM » |
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I don't quite know what your meaning of modern is. But there is a Saive and a Baker [ both side by side 10 ga] for sale at Gun Brokers for under $1K. The more popular makes are going for some high dollars. There is an Ithaca 4 for a mere $9750.00
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 05:58:43 PM » |
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My question would be why would anyone want a side by side other than an old one for historic value?
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2015, 06:45:28 PM » |
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12 gauge 3.5 is typically replacing the need for the 10 gauge in modern hunting.
Bur to my knowledge none are made in a double.
A decent modern 10 gauge may be very expensive if you can find one.
You define decent.
Modern 10 gauge have been typically auto or pump and were very available several years.
There should be plenty in the after market used.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2015, 07:08:52 AM » |
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12 gauge 3.5 is typically replacing the need for the 10 gauge in modern hunting.
Bur to my knowledge none are made in a double.
A decent modern 10 gauge may be very expensive if you can find one.
You define decent.
Modern 10 gauge have been typically auto or pump and were very available several years.
There should be plenty in the after market used.
12 gauge 3.5" are nice and is what I turkey hunt with. Got a 73 yard kill a couple years ago. But this was due to the custom long range shells and a custom made choke tube. You would never get past 50 yards with factory replacement chokes or factory loaded shells. My buddy has a 10 gauge semi auto. Shoots 3.5" shells and it does ok. Just because its bigger doesn't mean its better. Why take the abuse of the 10 gauge recoil when you can get better performance out of a 12.the longest kill he has is 32 yards. I tell my buddy he has little man syndrome, he is little so he has to make up for it with what he drives and what guns he has.  |
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2015, 08:01:24 AM » |
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My question would be why would anyone want a side by side other than an old one for historic value?
Im not a fan of pump shotguns. I hv 2 single shots and would love a double barrel. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2015, 08:05:58 AM » |
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im with ya Fudgie
its not for hunting. im thinking a side by side coach gun, 18 inch barrels maximum spread
10 guage 3 1/2 if I pull the trigger I want to be SURE
dan
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2015, 08:31:18 AM » |
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Stoeger side by side 12 gauge coach shotgun. Reasonably priced and decent quality.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2015, 10:25:01 AM » |
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Funny this was brought up at this time. I was just contemplating hacking down a nice old double 12g I've had for years. Not much value for hunting or resale value as is, (about $200). If it were cut down nicely and sold for defense weapon, I think it could easily double that, although I will be keeping it for now.
While I was searching for legal overall length (I know barrel has to be 18") and(now I know 26" overall) legality in the state of TN without permit or tax, I discovered something I did not expect.
Seems our state gubbermint quietly passed a law and is in effect (as of July 2014) allowing anyone that is legal to own a firearm, may carry it in ones privately owned vehicle, fully loaded. Handgun, rifle, or shotgun. No permit required. I do have a handgun carry permit.
Found out some other related stuff too, I'll go into later.
Well, I will be performing the surgery soon.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 10:52:30 AM » |
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Just a friendly note.... the reason all the Mfgrs make their shortest shotgun bbls 18.5" is to avoid the possibility of some G asswipe claiming an 18" bbl is really 17.99999999 (and a felony).
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 11:39:02 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2015, 01:32:42 PM » |
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Just a friendly note.... the reason all the Mfgrs make their shortest shotgun bbls 18.5" is to avoid the possibility of some G asswipe claiming an 18" bbl is really 17.99999999 (and a felony).
Exactly. Was on jury once for this. FEDERAL FELONY! Be careful! Was 5 years, mandatory! |
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2015, 01:44:07 PM » |
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Just a friendly note.... the reason all the Mfgrs make their shortest shotgun bbls 18.5" is to avoid the possibility of some G asswipe claiming an 18" bbl is really 17.99999999 (and a felony).
Exactly. Was on jury once for this. FEDERAL FELONY! Be careful! Was 5 years, mandatory! Makes me think of Randy Weaver and family. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2015, 04:11:48 PM » |
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Just a friendly note.... the reason all the Mfgrs make their shortest shotgun bbls 18.5" is to avoid the possibility of some G asswipe claiming an 18" bbl is really 17.99999999 (and a felony).
Exactly. Was on jury once for this. FEDERAL FELONY! Be careful! Was 5 years, mandatory! UNLESS you pay the $200 tax and fill the paper work out BEFORE you cut the barrel. Then you can cut it as short as you want it.  |
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2015, 04:19:09 PM » |
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Certainly, though I didn't think you had that in mind for the old double you were describing.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2015, 05:39:22 PM » |
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No, I'm not going the registration route on this, I will keep this one 18+/26+ so it can be re-homed at some point without fuss if I decided to. I have shortened barrels before, but not the stock & barrel down to minimum. I'm curious what the law is regarding carry on the m/c would be, you know, in case I hit a squirrel and had to put it down?  I think the new TN carry in vehicle law is coinciding with the castle law, so not too sure if a m/c can be considered a "castle" unless you're like DDT or Dan. |
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2015, 05:47:01 PM » |
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No, I'm not going the registration route on this, I will keep this one 18+/26+ so it can be re-homed at some point without fuss if I decided to. I have shortened barrels before, but not the stock & barrel down to minimum. I'm curious what the law is regarding carry on the m/c would be, you know, in case I hit a squirrel and had to put it down? I think the new TN carry in vehicle law is coinciding with the castle law, so not too sure if a m/c can be considered a "castle" unless you're like DDT or Dan. I don't know about Dan's new bike, but his red & white was lacking a little castle effect.   |
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 07:25:16 AM » |
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I hope you're a good shot and you have sights and the time to use them on that 10 gauge. 2 shots then you throw the gun? go to 7:25 in the video if you're in a hurry. I'd rather have a Judge with more shots or my 17 round 9mm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00IvKx6gGeA |
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2015, 07:45:15 AM » |
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I hope you're a good shot and you have sights and the time to use them on that 10 gauge. 2 shots then you throw the gun? go to 7:25 in the video if you're in a hurry. I'd rather have a Judge with more shots or my 17 round 9mm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00IvKx6gGeAI have a Rossi coach gun [ similar to that in the video]. Its not really good for anything except to look at. I keep an old worn out hammerless cutoff double under the bed. I'm not a fan of big shot, I prefer smaller stuff. And, I think its hard to miss something across a room. I've thought about getting a Judge for quite some time, now you have me thinking about it again. |
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2015, 08:24:38 AM » |
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a judge loaded with 410 bb's will put a hurting on anything across a room
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2015, 11:20:40 AM » |
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No way to hide those shotguns in a holster, pants or book either.
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2015, 11:17:40 AM » |
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No, I'm not going the registration route on this, I will keep this one 18+/26+ so it can be re-homed at some point without fuss if I decided to. I have shortened barrels before, but not the stock & barrel down to minimum. I'm curious what the law is regarding carry on the m/c would be, you know, in case I hit a squirrel and had to put it down? I think the new TN carry in vehicle law is coinciding with the castle law, so not too sure if a m/c can be considered a "castle" unless you're like DDT or Dan. I don't know about Dan's new bike, but his red & white was lacking a little castle effect. some people were calling the old one "thunder dome" someone out alone on his bike probably has the tools he needs and I am honored to be mentioned in the same sentence as DDT dan |
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2015, 03:01:07 PM » |
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No, I'm not going the registration route on this, I will keep this one 18+/26+ so it can be re-homed at some point without fuss if I decided to. I have shortened barrels before, but not the stock & barrel down to minimum. I'm curious what the law is regarding carry on the m/c would be, you know, in case I hit a squirrel and had to put it down? I think the new TN carry in vehicle law is coinciding with the castle law, so not too sure if a m/c can be considered a "castle" unless you're like DDT or Dan. I don't know about Dan's new bike, but his red & white was lacking a little castle effect. some people were calling the old one "thunder dome" someone out alone on his bike probably has the tools he needs and I am honored to be mentioned in the same sentence as DDT dan So can we call the new black one "Beyond Thunder Dome" ?   |
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2015, 07:40:16 AM » |
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well my out look is I rode up s#$@ creek went out beyond thunder dome
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back in black
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