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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 08:30:13 AM » |
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we wont defend our territory so we get what we deserve
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 12:02:50 PM » |
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Hmmm, on this issue, I side with Trump. Cease bringing in those refugees until we can get the situation under control. Obviously the so called vetting process doesn't/didn't work, as evidenced in the recent event in California.
It may not be "who we are as a country" but maybe it's time for us to "be who we need to be for our own country's self preservation. Border control has been an unresolved hot issue for many years....and this is an extension of that.
This issue has been around before...and maybe that is who we are as a country.... Found this in one of my news feeds on FaceBook......
For those misinformed by the media.
During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.
Here’s Jimmy “Hitler” Carter saying it back in 1980.
Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all. It may even be “who we are”. Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.
Meanwhile here’s how the Iranian students in the US were treated.
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.
Meanwhile any Iranians entering the US were forced to undergo secondary screening.
Interestingly enough, Carter did this by invoking the Nationality Act of 1952. A law originally opposed by Democrats for its attempt to restrict Communist immigration to the United States.
“If this oasis of the world should be overrun, perverted, contaminated, or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished,” Senator McCarran said of the law. He was a Democrat.
Now unlike Muslims, Iranians were not necessarily supportive of Islamic terrorism. Many were and are opponents of it. Khomeini didn’t represent Iran as a country, but his Islamist allies. So Trump’s proposal is far more legitimate than Carter’s action. Carter targeted people by nationality. Trump’s proposal does so by ideology.
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1955 expressly forbids entrance to the US of any person that is a member of an organization seeking the overthrow of the American government by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means". Please see section 241, subsection C, on page 380. The koran, sharia law, and the Hadith all demand complete submission to Islam first and always. Muslims who attest to these therefore subvert US law in favor of them. Trump just wants to enforce existing law..
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 03:02:50 PM » |
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WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE WIDOWS AND ORPHANS?
You don't think Obama would lie to us about this, do you??
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 04:29:25 PM » |
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Obama was speaking in paris today. What came out of his mouth was amazing. He was talking about the recent shooting in California and said these mass shooting just don't happen in other countries. Really? Your in paris where 125 people were just killed but it doesn't happen anywhere but the US. What a moron. Someone should slap him up beside his fat arrogant head.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 04:37:07 PM » |
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Obama was speaking in paris today. What came out of his mouth was amazing. He was talking about the recent shooting in California and said these mass shooting just don't happen in other countries. Really? Your in paris where 125 people were just killed but it doesn't happen anywhere but the US. What a moron. Someone should slap him up beside his fat arrogant head.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 05:12:45 PM » |
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Obama was speaking in paris today. What came out of his mouth was amazing. He was talking about the recent shooting in California and said these mass shooting just don't happen in other countries. Really? Your in paris where 125 people were just killed but it doesn't happen anywhere but the US. What a moron. Someone should slap him up beside his fat arrogant head.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 08:08:47 PM » |
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Those people are nuts. Welcoming them like they were their saviors They can't improve their own country so they want to destroy Europe and America. Trump is right keep them out.England ,France and Germany have big trouble an no one has an ans. We may be next. Thankfully there is a big ocean between us and them,it will help for awhile.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 05:11:16 AM » |
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Obama was speaking in paris today. What came out of his mouth was amazing. He was talking about the recent shooting in California and said these mass shooting just don't happen in other countries. Really? Your in paris where 125 people were just killed but it doesn't happen anywhere but the US. What a moron. Someone should slap him up beside his fat arrogant head.
Obama was in Paris today ? Dang, not only can we not agree on where he comes from, we can't even agree on where he is. all you see is where he was at? May not have been yesterday or today but recently. You do have to admit that was a very stupid thing to say. He just proved to me that he has no brain. Complete retard of a president. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 05:53:58 AM » |
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Obama was speaking in paris today. What came out of his mouth was amazing. He was talking about the recent shooting in California and said these mass shooting just don't happen in other countries. Really? Your in paris where 125 people were just killed but it doesn't happen anywhere but the US. What a moron. Someone should slap him up beside his fat arrogant head.
Obama was in Paris today ? Dang, not only can we not agree on where he comes from, we can't even agree on where he is. all you see is where he was at? May not have been yesterday or today but recently. You do have to admit that was a very stupid thing to say. He just proved to me that he has no brain. Complete retard of a president. Just thought it was amusing that the 2 sides of political thinking can't even agree on the simplest things nowadays . No big deal. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM » |
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You guys in Canada have anything to say?I was in BC this summer and the locals said there all over Canada.
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