Valkyrie Trike Riders, I need some information, a favor.

[Rams]

I've always been intrigued/interested in Valkyrie Trikes.   Have seriously considered getting one, not triking out my baby but looking at options.   

Since I retired and bought my toy hauler, I've been doing some traveling in it with my baby (Valkyrie) inside and riding when I get to where ever the destination is and in between when the feeling strikes me.   

Back to my interest in a Valkyrie trike, I need to know what the outside measurements for Valkyrie trikes are.   Widest points and total length.    I really like the Road Smith version but am considering others.   I assume most are generally about the same width and length but, in this case, size does matter.   If I were to move forward with getting a Valkyrie Trike, it needs to fit inside the toy hauler.      If it doesn't, then I'll end up being one of those dudes pulling a really long rig down the road (truck, toy hauler and trike trailer).    Don't really want to go there.

So, the favor I'm asking is, will anyone with a Valkyrie trike be so kind as to measure their trike's width and total length and respond to this thread.   Please advise me as  to the particular brand of trike. 

Thanks in advance.

[Spirited-6]

Ron , BIG & LONG. Hope this helps !   
Best to you my friend !
Don

[Rams]

Ron , BIG & LONG. Hope this helps !    
Best to you my friend !
Don

Don,
We are talking about a Valkyrie Trike aren't we?

Just checking.    

Honestly, I'm having doubts a trike will fit in my toy hauler.   But, that's why I'm asking.

[MP]

Some states will not allow pulling two trailers, some will.

[Rams]

Some states will not allow pulling two trailers, some will.

I travel quite a bit, I see RVs trailers with boats and bike trailers all the time so that surprises me.    Will have to look into that.   Last time I checked, all states have width restrictions but never heard of one with length or multiple trailer restrictions with the exception of pulling triples.  

Edited: Thanks for bringing that up.   Caused me to do some research that I had not anticipated.

This site was very informative: http://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguide.com/2009/07/triple_towing.php

Triple towing is allowed in the following states:
•Alaska
•Arizona
•Arkansas
•California
•Colorado
•Idaho
•Illinois
•Indiana
•Iowa
•Kansas
•Kentucky
•Louisiana
•Maryland
•Michigan
•Minnesota
•Mississippi
•Missouri
•Montana
•Nebraska
•Nevada
•New Mexico
•North Dakota
•Ohio
•Oklahoma
•South Dakota
•Tennessee
•Texas
•Utah



Many of these states have a variety of restrictions which could still hamper your ability to tow two trailers.

For example, some states limit total length of all 3 units to 65 feet. In some instances, the limit is 70 feet or 75 feet total length.

In some states, triple towing is restricted to adding the second trailer only behind a 5th wheel trailer.

Many states limit the second trailer to recreational equipment, such as a boat, snowmobile, or ATV 4-wheelers.

In California you even need a special endorsement on your drivers license to tow any trailer over 10,000 lbs or to drive a motorhome that is over 40 feet in length.

I do my best to avoid California anyway.  

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Some states will not allow pulling two trailers, some will.

In California you even need a special endorsement on your drivers license to tow any trailer over 10,000 lbs or to drive a motorhome that is over 40 feet in length.

I do my best to avoid California anyway.  

Don't forget, in California the speed limit is 55 for a trailer. A friend of mine got a $400 ticket for pulling a motorcycle trailer 70 mph.

[larryh0841]

     I have two Valkyrie/Roadsmith trikes.  One is the early model body style and the other I converted last year.  The older one is 55" wide X 120" long.  The new one is 55" wide X 118 1/2" long.  the measurements are at the widest point of the body and from the tip of the exhaust to the front of the front tire.  The front tires are stock Valkyrie size and the forks are raked 8 degrees with triple clamps from VTX-treme.  The exhausts extend just beyond the Roadsmith rear bumper.  Both of these are Interstates.  If you can find a nice one already converted it is probably better than doing your own.  It costs about $10,000.00 to do the conversion.  I prefer the older body style as the new one leaves the area in front of the rear fender exposed and the fenders are about four inches higher at the front edge than the old style.  The tour pack also is remounted much higher on the newer style and just did not look right to me.  I did a lot of extra fiberglass work to close up the opening in the body and bring the front of the fenders down to match the old style.  I also lowered the trunk and set it back so it blended better with the lines of the trike.
                                                                    Larry
                                                                     

[Rams]

Larry,
Thanks for the information.   BTW, I also like the old Road Smith body style.   In fact, there's a lady in NY that is storing mine for me as I type this.    I know she thinks it's her's still but, eventually, it'll end up here in Kentucky.      Lil Deb, are you listening?   

Thanks again Larry.   Anyone else have a different trike with other dimensions?

Ron

[LBValk]

I have a 2000 interstate converted to a roadsmith trike.   I just came from  my mechanic and measured the length of mine while there (for same reason as you)   front tire was off but length was aprox 9' 3".  I think mine was a 6 degree rake????.  same width as you stated.  I really like this rig but had some problems in the beginning.   I think roadsmith trikes are great looking but the engineering and the installation was not up to par.  I had to change brakelines and really beef up struts to pull a trailer.  The mechs did it all the easy way instead of correct way.   The kit used 1967 VW brake rotors and they had smaller diameter lines first then larger lines just before the whl cylinder.  I had to stand on the brakes to get it stopped.  Changed lines and all worked good. Now trike is at mechs because the shoddy materials used in the rake were sloppy and wore out the bearings.    I think mine was older model (2011) and trunk was smaller but after work was done, excellent trike now!!

[Rams]

I have a 2000 interstate converted to a roadsmith trike.   I just came from  my mechanic and measured the length of mine while there (for same reason as you)   front tire was off but length was aprox 9' 3".  I think mine was a 6 degree rake????.  same width as you stated.  I really like this rig but had some problems in the beginning.   I think roadsmith trikes are great looking but the engineering and the installation was not up to par.  I had to change brakelines and really beef up struts to pull a trailer.  The mechs did it all the easy way instead of correct way.   The kit used 1967 VW brake rotors and they had smaller diameter lines first then larger lines just before the whl cylinder.  I had to stand on the brakes to get it stopped.  Changed lines and all worked good. Now trike is at mechs because the shoddy materials used in the rake were sloppy and wore out the bearings.    I think mine was older model (2011) and trunk was smaller but after work was done, excellent trike now!!

My understanding is that Road Smith has authorized and trained dealers to install their conversions, may I ask which dealer did your conversion?

[TallRider]

Looks like you will need at least a 12` garage. What size garage is in the back of your trailer? Most I've looked at were at least 11'. I am thinking about getting a toy hauler myself. Wanted to stay with a dual axle fifth wheel and not go to big. I will have to keep size in mind. Never think how long these bikes really are.

[Rams]

Looks like you will need at least a 12` garage. What size garage is in the back of your trailer? Most I've looked at were at least 11'. I am thinking about getting a toy hauler myself. Wanted to stay with a dual axle fifth wheel and not go to big. I will have to keep size in mind. Never think how long these bikes really are.

My RV/Toy Hauler is a fifth wheel converted to a gooseneck hitch.   Did that because I already have a gooseneck trailer I transport with.   Fifth wheel hitches take up most of the bed of a truck and I can always use that space for something else.   

Length is not nearly as important for me as width.   With the exception of, if I want to take my original Valkyrie then, length is very important.   My RV/Toy Hauler is kind of difficult to describe in that it wasn't built to be a toy hauler but taken back to the factory a few years after it was originally sold and converted into a toy hauler.   It still has all the things that were in it originally but moved to one side (driver's side), to accommodate a 3 or 4 wheeler or bike.    So, width is a bigger concern than length.    After getting the provided information on the width of a Road Smith conversion trike, I'm no longer concerned about one fitting into my RV/Toy Hauler.    My toy hauler doesn't really have a garage, the bike and living area are open so, I can put a bike all the way to the front of the trailer and put a second Valkyrie behind it.   It's tight but, it works.   

The upper deck is where the bedroom is located.   It ain't fancy but, it works for me.    Buying, owning and utilizing the RV/Toy Hauler has opened up a whole new set of opportunities for me to travel and save money while still being able to ride with my friends at the destinations.    I do miss out on those long rides with friends on bikes but, when I get there, I'm refreshed from riding in an air conditioned cab, I drop the back ramp, unload, lock it up and go ride.    It's not for everyone but, I love it.

Of course, having the RV that's open like it is, I've get asked to help folks move a lot.   My answer is always the same, you call, I haul (what are you paying).   

[weewillie103]

might want to talk to local LEOs where you are looking at going.
I THINK in Kansas, two trailers are limited to 28 ft each
HOWEVER, I don't think it gets enforced much on travel trailer setups.
Mostly commercial motor vehicle set ups (ie semis)
I also think that to be legal, one has to be a fifth wheel hitch and then a bumper hitch
The very back trailer also has to be equipped with brakes.

[Rams]

might want to talk to local LEOs where you are looking at going.
I THINK in Kansas, two trailers are limited to 28 ft each
HOWEVER, I don't think it gets enforced much on travel trailer setups.
Mostly commercial motor vehicle set ups (ie semis)
I also think that to be legal, one has to be a fifth wheel hitch and then a bumper hitch
The very back trailer also has to be equipped with brakes.

Willie,
I've been doing some research based on some of the comments in this thread.   Based on what I've read, the total length of tandem trailers in KS can not exceed 65 feet for the entire vehicle front to rear.   In reference to the back trailer needing brakes in KS, you are correct.   So, I called a friend who just happens to be a KHP Trooper.   Asked him about it.   He told me that you are correct but, unless the lack of brakes on the back trailer was a contributing factor in an accident, that is pretty much ignored and would not be the reason a citation would be issued.   This also assumes it's a light duty trailer less than a couple of thousand pounds loaded.   But, a citation can be issued, his words were, if you piss off a Trooper, you can expect all kinds of crap to get his attention that he normally wouldn't be looking at.

[cookiedough]

In WI,  trailer brakes are required if trailer and inside weight pulling is 3000 lbs. or more.  I got my Tekumsah primus IQ on amazon.com under 100 bucks with wiring specific to my truck.  Each state am sure has different weight laws.

I think a 6x12' trailer would be fine for a trike, with 6' wide being around 5[8" wide inside usually.   A 5x10 or even a 6 x 10' might be pushing it - no good.    5' wide is pushing it for sure being around 56" or so.  You would want at least 1-2 inches on each side to spare 'just in case'. 

[Rams]

Cookie,
Already determined the Road Smith Trike will fit inside my Toy Hauler, not 100% sure I can fit my unaltered Valkyrie in there with it yet.   But, if it won't fit then, I'd just hook up my small bike trailer to the back of the Toy Hauler and move on with life.   

Yeah, I know some states want brakes.   At this point, I'm not going to worry about it.   With the Valkyrie on that small trailer, I doubt it'll tip the scales over 2,000 lbs.   It will have lights and I do have the capability to install brakes if I decide to but, I just don't see a need for them.   The RV/Toy Hauler has brakes on both axles and the truck is a heavy duty 3/4 Ton, Cummins powered truck.

[old2soon]

On the P Oing the L E O-they P Od the fine tooth comb WILL come out-I don't care WHAT state yer travelin in. Go on ahead and ask me HOW I know dat!  RIDE SAFE.