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It's a multipart work that took 10 yrs to make. It's very spellbinding and shows the ungodly way Steve Avery was framed in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. It's a true story.
I've only seen two parts so far but it's VERY well done! I highly recommend it.
You would need to start from the beginning--Epsidode 1.
Oh, and if you know about it, please, no spoilers.
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 09:48:06 AM » |
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I watched it since it happened just a few miles from my house. I drive by the murder site all the time.
Great movie but very one sided. Hard to believe the Sheriff would do what they did if they did it. Lots of unanswered questions????? Steven Avery was not a nice man.
If you didn't watch you should 10 hours sounds like a lot of TV time but once you start you want to watch more.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 09:52:21 AM » |
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I watched it since it happened just a few miles from my house. I drive by the murder site all the time.
Great movie but very one sided. Hard to believe the Sheriff would do what they did if they did it. Lots of unanswered questions????? Steven Avery was not a nice man.
If you didn't watch you should 10 hours sounds like a lot of TV time but once you start you want to watch more.
Thanks, Jack. I'm only in to the 3rd episode so I still don't know how it will all end. Still watching. |
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 12:09:25 PM » |
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It's a multipart work that took 10 yrs to make. It's very spellbinding and shows the ungodly way Steve Avery was framed in Manitowoc, Wisconsin. It's a true story.
I've only seen two parts so far but it's VERY well done! I highly recommend it.
You would need to start from the beginning--Epsidode 1.
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Those who know the case, say it is VERY one sided. The best evidence the prosecutors have, is NOT being presented. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 01:08:18 PM » |
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I've watched the entire "documentary" now.
I know this, it's on the TV made for TV so it has to all be true and tells both sides points equally. (I doubt it). I've concluded there must be a bunch of the "rest of the story" not being TV'd.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 01:18:37 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 01:29:28 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
Like I said early Avery was not a nice man. He was in prison for 18 years, I think he knows how to lie. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 01:34:11 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
If the TV is showing that to his advantage, OF COURSE he would appear more believable. I have no idea. Never heard of him before. I am going by what independant judges and lawyers on shows on tv say, that have studied the case a lot. They say the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty, and that the show is sorely one sided. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2016, 01:57:26 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
If the TV is showing that to his advantage, OF COURSE he would appear more believable. I have no idea. Never heard of him before. I am going by what independant judges and lawyers on shows on tv say, that have studied the case a lot. They say the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty, and that the show is sorely one sided. Yes, a one sided propaganda piece for the bleeding heart crowd... |
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2016, 02:20:11 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
If the TV is showing that to his advantage, OF COURSE he would appear more believable. I have no idea. Never heard of him before. I am going by what independant judges and lawyers on shows on tv say, that have studied the case a lot. They say the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty, and that the show is sorely one sided. Yes, a one sided propaganda piece for the bleeding heart crowd... SMH...  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2016, 03:44:14 PM » |
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MP and Black Pearl's Captain,,
At this early point(have seen 3 episodes) I'm completely baffled on whether he was framed(twice?)or not. But Avery seems a lot more believable than those on the prosecuting side.
If the TV is showing that to his advantage, OF COURSE he would appear more believable. I have no idea. Never heard of him before. I am going by what independant judges and lawyers on shows on tv say, that have studied the case a lot. They say the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty, and that the show is sorely one sided. Yes, a one sided propaganda piece for the bleeding heart crowd... Don't know where that statement came from but you couldn't be more wrong if you are lumping me in there. I've read nothing about this case. My comments were based on what was presented in 3 episodes and I said I was only going by what the show presented. Have you watched it or are you just running your mouth? |
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2016, 03:59:19 PM » |
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I have been watching it and I find it hard to believe that may law enforcement agencies came together to frame a single guy. Not saying it couldn't happen but a little unbelievable to me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2016, 04:08:38 PM » |
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Understood. The more I watch it, I might arrive at that same conclusion. Just too early to say. Thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2016, 04:12:23 PM » |
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I've watched the series, kind of disturbing in various directions. I did a few Google searches after watching the series and a bunch of things were filled in for me; took less than an hour for this basic scan. I'm still not totally comfortable with the investigation but Google puts a light on the entirety of the murder.
Mr. Averies two lawyers for the trial impressed me greatly.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2016, 07:08:52 PM » |
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I won't tell you what you should believe, but.....before you decide that Avery is being framed, read some of the actual trial transcripts to see what the documentary (?) left out. Actually some fairly damning evidence. I will not bother to watch a defense attorney's product after all legal appeals have been exhausted. There are a number of factual books about the original miscarriage of justice and subsequent horrors that were perpetrated by Avery against an innocent victim. And a victims family that once again that has to relive a daughters brutal rape, murder and dismemberment.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2016, 07:57:00 PM » |
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I don't get Netflix but a couple of weeks ago there was a program detailing the conviction that he spent 18 years in prison for. He was identified by the witness,
a cops wife or girlfriend. Between that and a sketchy past put him in prison.
When he was released he met with that victim, they hugged and he forgave her.
There are plans for a video to come that tells the complete story. I forgot who was commissioned to do it.
All of these things were covered in the trial. Now the DA, city and county officials say unless there is "new" evidence there will not be a new trial.
Even the governor said he doesn't want to touch this. Not his place to do so.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2016, 09:32:15 PM » |
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A local TV station has a reporter that lived there and covered the entire trial , said he basically lived in the courthouse basement. Said that the people doing this documentary had an agenda from the very start to make this very one sided and sensational for viewers , to make sure it looked like Avery was framed. The reporter said he saw every moment of courtroom testimony and that so much evidence, that proves Averys guilty, was purposely left out of the documentary. He said he believed 100 % that Avery was guilty.Proves to me that the media can make you believe whatever they want.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2016, 04:32:40 AM » |
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A local TV station has a reporter that lived there and covered the entire trial , said he basically lived in the courthouse basement. Said that the people doing this documentary had an agenda from the very start to make this very one sided and sensational for viewers , to make sure it looked like Avery was framed. The reporter said he saw every moment of courtroom testimony and that so much evidence, that proves Averys guilty, was purposely left out of the documentary. He said he believed 100 % that Avery was guilty.Proves to me that the media can make you believe whatever they want.
Like I said - one sided propaganda piece the lefties are eating up with a fork and spoon because they " feel" his innocence based on a hack job contrived " documentary" based on emotion rather than the facts. Feelings ARE more important than facts, you know...  |
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2016, 06:28:09 AM » |
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A local TV station has a reporter that lived there and covered the entire trial , said he basically lived in the courthouse basement. Said that the people doing this documentary had an agenda from the very start to make this very one sided and sensational for viewers , to make sure it looked like Avery was framed. The reporter said he saw every moment of courtroom testimony and that so much evidence, that proves Averys guilty, was purposely left out of the documentary. He said he believed 100 % that Avery was guilty.Proves to me that the media can make you believe whatever they want.
Like I said - one sided propaganda piece the lefties are eating up with a fork and spoon because they " feel" his innocence based on a hack job contrived " documentary" based on emotion rather than the facts. Feelings ARE more important than facts, you know... Ok, based on what everyone is saying so far, including youself, the presentation seems very flawed. Apologies to you, Gig. While the first six episodes at least sure do make it "look" like he was framed and the police leadership is corrupt, I sure won't be locked in to that conclusion. But I do want to finish the series as presented before I go looking for "the rest of the story". Thanks! |
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Overhearing conversation in my local bar those involved were able to sweep all police, lawyers and judges into one HUGE corrupt pile due to the NETFLIX production.
How quickly the squirrels become prescient.
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How can anyone that wasn't present at the trial every day form an opinion from watching a docu/dramatization?????????????????
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2016, 07:08:01 AM » |
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When a missing woman's car and tortured, mutilated, dismembered, incinerated body turn up on your property, you're going to have to work pretty hard to convince me you had nothing to do with it. I've seen the whole show and while the police could have handled the investigation and themselves much better, none of that makes Avery any less guilty.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2016, 06:29:43 PM » |
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I wish I could comment on more of this stuff but I want to watch the last 4 episodes first. Thanks for the post, saddlesore. I'll check it out. In related news, it looks like the documentary has sparked interest. Steve Avery is getting a new high falutin lawyer from Chicago to take on his case. It should get interesting. http://patch.com/illinois/downersgrove/steven-avery-newest-client-downers-grove-law-firm |
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