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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 05:10:54 AM » |
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Saw that on the morning National news this morning.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 06:27:47 AM » |
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Very limited information but, based on the video, I'm guessing a sprag clutch or transmission failure. Tail rotor lost authority and the main rotor appears to be slowing while the turbine sounded like it was free wheeling/increasing in speed. The accident investigation will determine what really happened.
Appears the pilot was aware of the problem and was trying to make it to shore. But, as I said, not enough information to know much at this point.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 07:02:39 AM » |
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They're calling it a "hard landing"......doesn't look like the word "landing" applies here.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 07:42:12 AM » |
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They're calling it a "hard landing"......doesn't look like the word "landing" applies here.
An arrested landing on an aircraft carrier has been likened to a controlled crash. Had a couple of helicopter landings that have "tested" the undercarriage. IF it's mechanical and man built it-it will break down-eventually. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 07:52:52 AM » |
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They're calling it a "hard landing"......doesn't look like the word "landing" applies here.
maybe "hard water" they have filters for that giggle dan |
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 07:54:43 AM » |
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They're calling it a "hard landing"......doesn't look like the word "landing" applies here.
I think if you can walk or swim away from it, it was a decent landing. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 08:00:19 AM » |
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They're calling it a "hard landing"......doesn't look like the word "landing" applies here.
I think if you can walk or swim away from it, it was a decent landing. I've also heard-from pilots-that ANY landing you can walk away from is considered a "good" landing!  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 09:34:45 AM » |
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Yep... if you can walk away, it's a good landing. If you can use the aircraft again, it's a GREAT landing.
Being an off-shore worker, I have trained many many times for that exact type of landing. "Soft" touchdown in water, then craft rolls over.
There are 3 different simulators near Lafayette, LA. You sit down, buckle in, and get dunked in a really big swimming pool. The good simulators will dunk you pretty darn fast, but not quite as fast as you see in that video (they don't want to break peoples back in the name of training).
Stay seated until rolling stops (hold your breath), then unlatch you belt and aim for the nearest window.
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Patrick
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 09:52:31 AM » |
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Yep... if you can walk away, it's a good landing. If you can use the aircraft again, it's a GREAT landing.
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Yep, been saying that kiddingly for decades.
Trying to figure out what make that monster is. Not up on helicopters. Its doesn't quite look like the few I'm a little familiar with . Also couldn't quite determine if was was turbine or piston powered. But, it did appear like the driver was doing what he could.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 10:13:58 AM » |
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Trying to figure out what make that monster is. Not up on helicopters. Its doesn't quite look like the few I'm a little familiar with . Also couldn't quite determine if was was turbine or piston powered. But, it did appear like the driver was doing what he could.
Bell 206, turbine powered. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 10:48:53 AM » |
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Trying to figure out what make that monster is. Not up on helicopters. Its doesn't quite look like the few I'm a little familiar with . Also couldn't quite determine if was was turbine or piston powered. But, it did appear like the driver was doing what he could.
Bell 206, turbine powered. That was a Bell 206 !? Well, Ok. I'm familiar with them, somewhat. It did/does have that profile, I just didn't think at the time thats what it was. That surprises me then. They are pretty bullet-proof critters. Video sometimes screw up movements, so I wondered if there really were rotor issues or not. It looked it, but, didn't want to comment really. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 10:55:56 AM » |
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One other thing I've heard is that by the laws of aerodynamics, helicopters don't actually "fly" they beat the air into submission.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 11:24:25 AM » |
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One other thing I've heard is that by the laws of aerodynamics, helicopters don't actually "fly" they beat the air into submission.
Well, they do call them Crazy Egg "Beaters". |
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 11:30:52 AM » |
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Trying to figure out what make that monster is. Not up on helicopters. Its doesn't quite look like the few I'm a little familiar with . Also couldn't quite determine if was was turbine or piston powered. But, it did appear like the driver was doing what he could.
Bell 206, turbine powered. That was a Bell 206 !? Well, Ok. I'm familiar with them, somewhat. It did/does have that profile, I just didn't think at the time thats what it was. That surprises me then. They are pretty bullet-proof critters. Video sometimes screw up movements, so I wondered if there really were rotor issues or not. It looked it, but, didn't want to comment really. I'm definitely no expert on 'chopper ID, but the news reports I was reading said it was a Bell 206... Also, supposedly the tour operator is Genesis Helicopters, and their web page says it's a Bell 206B 3, and the fuselage code, N90918 seems to be the same as in the video... http://www.genesishelicopters.com/#introGlad it appears no one was killed... I've only had a few trips in a chopper, but have loved every second of every one I've managed to take... |
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Patrick
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2016, 12:00:32 PM » |
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Trying to figure out what make that monster is. Not up on helicopters. Its doesn't quite look like the few I'm a little familiar with . Also couldn't quite determine if was was turbine or piston powered. But, it did appear like the driver was doing what he could.
Bell 206, turbine powered. That was a Bell 206 !? Well, Ok. I'm familiar with them, somewhat. It did/does have that profile, I just didn't think at the time thats what it was. That surprises me then. They are pretty bullet-proof critters. Video sometimes screw up movements, so I wondered if there really were rotor issues or not. It looked it, but, didn't want to comment really. I'm definitely no expert on 'chopper ID, but the news reports I was reading said it was a Bell 206... Also, supposedly the tour operator is Genesis Helicopters, and their web page says it's a Bell 206B 3, and the fuselage code, N90918 seems to be the same as in the video... http://www.genesishelicopters.com/#introGlad it appears no one was killed... I've only had a few trips in a chopper, but have loved every second of every one I've managed to take... Been flying a long time. Do not like helicopters, bad experiences. Tried to get back in one, can't do it even after 45 years. I stick with stationary winged vehicles. But, that said, been thinking about putting together a Safari for the backyard. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2016, 04:47:15 PM » |
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Yep... if you can walk away, it's a good landing. If you can use the aircraft again, it's a GREAT landing.
Being an off-shore worker, I have trained many many times for that exact type of landing. "Soft" touchdown in water, then craft rolls over.
There are 3 different simulators near Lafayette, LA. You sit down, buckle in, and get dunked in a really big swimming pool. The good simulators will dunk you pretty darn fast, but not quite as fast as you see in that video (they don't want to break peoples back in the name of training).
Stay seated until rolling stops (hold your breath), then unlatch you belt and aim for the nearest window.
Naval aviation training - I think every Navy / Marine Corp Pilot / NFO HATES them things ( the helo dunker) - while I was in Pensacola - we did 4 dunks with it - #1 - Simply drop, out any exit. #2 - Simple drop - everybody out the main door #3 - painted up eyegoggles (to simulate night), drop and out closest door #4 - painted eyegoggle, drop and everybody out the main door The Navy version was a replica of a Chinook helo body, and of course after it dunked, it flipped over (you didn't know which way it was going to go...) Brought the point home that you STAY in your seatbelt until the A/C stops moving, then release and get out. Oh - BTW - no using your feet (so you don't kick someone else). |
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