fudgie
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Bought one last week for work. Yes, EMS work. Seems to get more dangerous as time goes on. The dept was going to buy them, and they still may if the funds are there, but I went and got one for myself. My partner already had one from his previous EMS job. Opiate drug use is way up in our county. We had more opiate overdoses last yr then 3 other counties combined. We get threatened alot in this job. Was belly to belly with a big biker a month ago. Took all I could not to go hands on.  Thats what cops are for you say. Yes and no. We all know they cant be around all the time. Being a rural service it can take 15 min for them to get to us. Only gonna wear it on certain runs or areas of town. Fits nice and is rather comfy. |
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2016, 06:15:57 PM » |
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the gang who shot/stabbed etc., don't want u to save that person.
there are cases of this happening already even the fireman being shot at trying to put out a fire.
God Bless u.
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fudgie
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2016, 06:26:54 PM » |
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the gang who shot/stabbed etc., don't want u to save that person.
there are cases of this happening already even the fireman being shot at trying to put out a fire.
God Bless u.
Luckily we dont have gangs here. The county over which is huge and does have a problem. They shot up a ambulance a few yrs ago hauling someone they initially shot at. Been reading for yrs of FF getting shot. Happens every month. Thts why I carry on fire runs, whether its medical or fire in nature. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 06:34:14 PM » |
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holy crap OP....god bless, thanks for your service to the community
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 06:39:24 PM » |
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holy crap OP....god bless, thanks for your service to the community
fudgie - thank you for your service. You've got guts . ( or big cojones  ) |
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 07:12:34 PM » |
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Sad what our world has become.....
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 07:15:26 PM » |
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Good idea Fudge.  Mine is pretty heavy and can be murder in the heat (they sell special Tshirts to go under them). I don't wear one daily, it's just for special occasions.  My wife has worn one for 15 years (custom made to fit her chest). She's tiny and it makes her look like a body builder. When I call her Arnold, she doesn't think its funny. I do. I think the key is to not turn your back on people. If one is kneeled down working on someone, the partner should watch the back. |
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Serk
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 07:36:20 PM » |
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Just remember.....
...ain't no such thing as bullet proof...
Bullet resistant, at best...
And be safe out there!
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2016, 11:53:42 PM » |
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I used to wear a level two vest when I worked EMS, and that was 10 years ago
God Bless ya and stay safe,
when you get a time try to pick up a book called Street Dancer
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 07:33:51 AM » |
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sad state of this country when EMS and fire dept. have to wear bullet proof vests for their own safety doing their jobs.
Do you get to pack a sidearm as well concealed carry and all?
I would surely hope so.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2016, 07:49:26 AM » |
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sad state of this country when EMS and fire dept. have to wear bullet proof vests for their own safety doing their jobs.
Do you get to pack a sidearm as well concealed carry and all?
I would surely hope so.
If one is going to have a shield they should have a sword to go with it dan |
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2016, 09:34:52 AM » |
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I have to second Serk's response, there aint no such thing as bulletproof.
Pistol proof, yeah, AK47, AR15's etc, No.
As far as I know, our responders in New Haven do not wear threat level two vests and no need for them, even though we are next to Ft. Wayne. I'll ask the Fire chief next time at the Board of Works and Safety meeting. New Haven furnishes them to the LEO's but not firemen or Paramedics.
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fudgie
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2016, 06:41:06 PM » |
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I have to second Serk's response, there aint no such thing as bulletproof.
Pistol proof, yeah, AK47, AR15's etc, No.
As far as I know, our responders in New Haven do not wear threat level two vests and no need for them, even though we are next to Ft. Wayne. I'll ask the Fire chief next time at the Board of Works and Safety meeting. New Haven furnishes them to the LEO's but not firemen or Paramedics.
TRAA wears them, that's where my partner got his. |
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fudgie
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 06:41:51 PM » |
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Do you get to pack a sidearm as well concealed carry and all?
I would surely hope so.
Its against policy.  |
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fudgie
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2016, 06:42:45 PM » |
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sad state of this country when EMS and fire dept. have to wear bullet proof vests for their own safety doing their jobs.
Do you get to pack a sidearm as well concealed carry and all?
I would surely hope so.
If one is going to have a shield they should have a sword to go with it dan We all carry knives or I mean seat belt cutters. |
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fudgie
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2016, 06:44:28 PM » |
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I used to wear a level two vest when I worked EMS, and that was 10 years ago
God Bless ya and stay safe,
when you get a time try to pick up a book called Street Dancer
Mines a IIIA Up to .44 mag and is needle/knife proof. I'll have to look that book up. |
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fudgie
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2016, 06:47:12 PM » |
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Good idea Fudge. Mine is pretty heavy and can be murder in the heat (they sell special Tshirts to go under them). I don't wear one daily, it's just for special occasions. My wife has worn one for 15 years (custom made to fit her chest). She's tiny and it makes her look like a body builder. When I call her Arnold, she doesn't think its funny. I do. I think the key is to not turn your back on people. If one is kneeled down working on someone, the partner should watch the back. Yup our backs always towards the door/egress. Mines a IIIA and fairly light. 4 lbs maybe. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2016, 07:20:18 PM » |
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Here's a little IIIA demonstration (it's what I have too). It's pretty impressive at stopping handgun/shotgun rounds, but take a look at the clay dents. Even with no penetration, that's got to leave a mark. I also think in your line, the protection from knives cannot be underestimated. http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-16-level-iiia-armor/ |
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2016, 04:36:13 AM » |
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I still wear mine. The fire service is in the same boat. Why these idiots are shooting at EMS or fire departments is beyond me.  Seems to be more so now than ever. I would figure (if there isn't already?) that there will be kevlar in fire fighting gear before long. Crap is already too hot and heavy but beats the alternative. |
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2016, 05:49:47 AM » |
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I can most certainly see a need for Three Rivers to wear them, Brian. Again, I'll talk to the fire chief, might be a good idea here too.
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fudgie
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 07:15:51 AM » |
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I can most certainly see a need for Three Rivers to wear them, Brian. Again, I'll talk to the fire chief, might be a good idea here too.
Yup a big 'crime' diff between FW & NH. The thing would be money. Far more EMS & FF then there are cops. I can see some folks going to get there own if they want. I know a couple NH EMS guys. I'll have to ask them too. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2016, 07:16:34 AM » |
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best of luck to you brian. it is a shame that you cannot carry, and even more of a shame that you even have to worry about sh!t like that...
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fudgie
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2016, 07:19:54 AM » |
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Here's a little IIIA demonstration (it's what I have too). It's pretty impressive at stopping handgun/shotgun rounds, but take a look at the clay dents. Even with no penetration, that's got to leave a mark. I also think in your line, the protection from knives cannot be underestimated. http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-16-level-iiia-armor/ Wow! |
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2016, 09:47:44 AM » |
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My cousin Dan in S. Carolina was shot 3 times in his chest. The vest he had on at the time stopped all 3 .357 rounds. He said it "hurt like hell" and his entire chest was black n blue. But, better than the final sleep. Oh, he double tapped the guy that shot him. He didn't have a vest on. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 04:55:09 AM » |
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'Been retired for 5 years now. (Fire-Rescue-EMS) Only a few incidents that we were assaulted. No firearms involved. We're pretty fortunate, LEO's were usually on the scene as we would pull up. I'm now 61 years young and not in as good of shape as when I was on the job. I'm not sure I could still handle getting my a** kicked like when I was young! Kinda glad I'm retired, but still miss the job and the guys.
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Clinton Township Mi.
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