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Something to really think about that most voters aren't even considering. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A lot of people have brought up the fact that they won't vote for Trump if he's the eventual nominee. I just want to put something in perspective.
Justice Scalia's seat is vacant. Ginsberg is 82 years old, Kennedy is 79, Breyer is 77, and Thomas is 67. Nowadays, the data shows that the average age of a Supreme Court retirement or death occurs after 75.
These are 5 vacancies that will likely come up over the next 4-8 years. The next President will have the power to potentially create a 7-2 Supreme Court skewed in their ideology.
Think about that... 7-2. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it will guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. And 7-2 decisions will hold up much more over time than 5-4 decisions which are deemed to be lacking in mandate.
Hillary has made it clear she will use the Supreme Court to go after the 2nd Amendment. She has literally said that the Supreme Court was wrong in its Heller decision, stating that the Court should overturn and remove the individual right to keep and bear arms. Period.
Everyone saying that they won't vote for one candidate or the other if they are the GOP nominee, please realize this. If Hillary Clinton wins and gets to make these appointments, you likely will never see another Conservative victory at the Supreme Court level for the rest of your life. Ever.
I have a difficult time believing the SCOTUS can arbitrarily remove the "right to bear arms" since it is part of the 2nd Amendment. But, stranger things have happened. Just look at their decisions re. the Obama abomination...the "Unaffordable" Care Act. There has been too many decisions that many feel were made based on personal feelings or convictions, and not per the law. I tend to agree.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 05:14:55 PM » |
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The rule a SCOTUS is a lifer should be done away with.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2016, 05:25:40 PM » |
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Something to really think about that most voters aren't even considering. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A lot of people have brought up the fact that they won't vote for Trump if he's the eventual nominee. I just want to put something in perspective.
Justice Scalia's seat is vacant. Ginsberg is 82 years old, Kennedy is 79, Breyer is 77, and Thomas is 67. Nowadays, the data shows that the average age of a Supreme Court retirement or death occurs after 75.
These are 5 vacancies that will likely come up over the next 4-8 years. The next President will have the power to potentially create a 7-2 Supreme Court skewed in their ideology.
Think about that... 7-2. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it will guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. And 7-2 decisions will hold up much more over time than 5-4 decisions which are deemed to be lacking in mandate.
Hillary has made it clear she will use the Supreme Court to go after the 2nd Amendment. She has literally said that the Supreme Court was wrong in its Heller decision, stating that the Court should overturn and remove the individual right to keep and bear arms. Period.
Everyone saying that they won't vote for one candidate or the other if they are the GOP nominee, please realize this. If Hillary Clinton wins and gets to make these appointments, you likely will never see another Conservative victory at the Supreme Court level for the rest of your life. Ever.
I have a difficult time believing the SCOTUS can arbitrarily remove the "right to bear arms" since it is part of the 2nd Amendment. But, stranger things have happened. Just look at their decisions re. the Obama abomination...the "Unaffordable" Care Act. There has been too many decisions that many feel were made based on personal feelings or convictions, and not per the law. I tend to agree.
This is indeed a live or die election for the Bill of Rights, and, therefore America.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 05:56:34 PM » |
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Oh please!!!! That's the first time I have heard of Hillary's intent to dismantle the 2nd amendment. How will she find time for that while promoting abortions nationwide? Damn Democrat. Give it a break and spend more time worrying about the GOP!
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 07:46:04 PM » |
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I'm afraid you couldn't be more right, John. I will vote for any GOP nominee who can beat the Hildabeast. I'm still hoping she will be indicted but not holding my breath on that. Obummer is dead set on his replacement being a lefty and if it's HiLIARy so be it - he will do whatever he can to prevent her indictment and I'm betting that includes a pardon and never mind the law that says she can't hold public office after her malfeasance. It's beyond me how the free crap army can vote for her - but clearly the morons will forgive anything, or even stick their heads in the sand in denial and vote for any miscreant who will promise them their free crap. As for me, if it's Trump, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever. I'd love it if the POtuS has to ride a raft back from Havana.
Did you hear the news today, Obummer wants the presidential pension to be increased? I'm sure he needs to come up with additional coin to replace his personal world's most expensive private airplane. Not to mention T-fees, gonna ding his spending money if he has to start paying to continue golfing at the world's most excusive private links.
I honestly don't know how you guys get through your days, being so miserable.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2016, 08:05:32 PM » |
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Oh please!!!! That's the first time I have heard of Hillary's intent to dismantle the 2nd amendment. How will she find time for that while promoting abortions nationwide? Damn Democrat. Give it a break and spend more time worrying about the GOP!
You must not be paying attention to her too much then.... Or maybe you are and just want to see her follow thru. Something to really think about that most voters aren't even considering. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A lot of people have brought up the fact that they won't vote for Trump if he's the eventual nominee. I just want to put something in perspective.
Justice Scalia's seat is vacant. Ginsberg is 82 years old, Kennedy is 79, Breyer is 77, and Thomas is 67. Nowadays, the data shows that the average age of a Supreme Court retirement or death occurs after 75.
These are 5 vacancies that will likely come up over the next 4-8 years. The next President will have the power to potentially create a 7-2 Supreme Court skewed in their ideology.
Think about that... 7-2. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it will guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. And 7-2 decisions will hold up much more over time than 5-4 decisions which are deemed to be lacking in mandate.
Hillary has made it clear she will use the Supreme Court to go after the 2nd Amendment. She has literally said that the Supreme Court was wrong in its Heller decision, stating that the Court should overturn and remove the individual right to keep and bear arms. Period.
Everyone saying that they won't vote for one candidate or the other if they are the GOP nominee, please realize this. If Hillary Clinton wins and gets to make these appointments, you likely will never see another Conservative victory at the Supreme Court level for the rest of your life. Ever.
I have a difficult time believing the SCOTUS can arbitrarily remove the "right to bear arms" since it is part of the 2nd Amendment. But, stranger things have happened. Just look at their decisions re. the Obama abomination...the "Unaffordable" Care Act. There has been too many decisions that many feel were made based on personal feelings or convictions, and not per the law. I tend to agree.
This is indeed a live or die election for the Bill of Rights, and, therefore America. Agree. There have already been many Dems that have jumped the fence, but probably not as many we we might like. If Hillary gets it, and she gets her way, there will be many dumbfounded Dems wondering how it happened well after its too late.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2016, 08:22:08 PM » |
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I'm afraid you couldn't be more right, John. I will vote for any GOP nominee who can beat the Hildabeast. I'm still hoping she will be indicted but not holding my breath on that. Obummer is dead set on his replacement being a lefty and if it's HiLIARy so be it - he will do whatever he can to prevent her indictment and I'm betting that includes a pardon and never mind the law that says she can't hold public office after her malfeasance. It's beyond me how the free crap army can vote for her - but clearly the morons will forgive anything, or even stick their heads in the sand in denial and vote for any miscreant who will promise them their free crap. As for me, if it's Trump, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever. I'd love it if the POtuS has to ride a raft back from Havana.
Did you hear the news today, Obummer wants the presidential pension to be increased? I'm sure he needs to come up with additional coin to replace his personal world's most expensive private airplane. Not to mention T-fees, gonna ding his spending money if he has to start paying to continue golfing at the world's most excusive private links.
I honestly don't know how you guys get through your days, being so miserable. Nope, not miserable at all. I have a loving wife I have to care for....for how long, I don't know. Have a loving family but they're a minimum of two days drive away. Have 17 grandkids and 11 greats, keeps me busy just staying in touch with as many as possible. And, it's so much easier for me to breathe since I don't have my head in the sand. I feel great. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2016, 08:45:21 PM » |
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I'm afraid you couldn't be more right, John. I will vote for any GOP nominee who can beat the Hildabeast. I'm still hoping she will be indicted but not holding my breath on that. Obummer is dead set on his replacement being a lefty and if it's HiLIARy so be it - he will do whatever he can to prevent her indictment and I'm betting that includes a pardon and never mind the law that says she can't hold public office after her malfeasance. It's beyond me how the free crap army can vote for her - but clearly the morons will forgive anything, or even stick their heads in the sand in denial and vote for any miscreant who will promise them their free crap. As for me, if it's Trump, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever. I'd love it if the POtuS has to ride a raft back from Havana.
Did you hear the news today, Obummer wants the presidential pension to be increased? I'm sure he needs to come up with additional coin to replace his personal world's most expensive private airplane. Not to mention T-fees, gonna ding his spending money if he has to start paying to continue golfing at the world's most excusive private links.
I honestly don't know how you guys get through your days, being so miserable. Nope, not miserable at all. I have a loving wife I have to care for....for how long, I don't know. Have a loving family but they're a minimum of two days drive away. Have 17 grandkids and 11 greats, keeps me busy just staying in touch with as many as possible. And, it's so much easier for me to breathe since I don't have my head in the sand. I feel great.  17 grands and ELEVEN GREATS!...Sounds like Christmas and all those birthdays keep you hopping!
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 06:52:08 AM » |
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I'm afraid you couldn't be more right, John. I will vote for any GOP nominee who can beat the Hildabeast. I'm still hoping she will be indicted but not holding my breath on that. Obummer is dead set on his replacement being a lefty and if it's HiLIARy so be it - he will do whatever he can to prevent her indictment and I'm betting that includes a pardon and never mind the law that says she can't hold public office after her malfeasance. It's beyond me how the free crap army can vote for her - but clearly the morons will forgive anything, or even stick their heads in the sand in denial and vote for any miscreant who will promise them their free crap. As for me, if it's Trump, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever. I'd love it if the POtuS has to ride a raft back from Havana.
Did you hear the news today, Obummer wants the presidential pension to be increased? I'm sure he needs to come up with additional coin to replace his personal world's most expensive private airplane. Not to mention T-fees, gonna ding his spending money if he has to start paying to continue golfing at the world's most excusive private links.
I honestly don't know how you guys get through your days, being so miserable. I'm not sure where the miserable thing comes from. I've got 4 grown and successful children, all of whom live within 30 minutes. A wonderful wife who is fixing a bacon and eggs breakfast as I type. Five Grandsons ranging in age from 4 to 18, all of whom I am very close to. I'm semi-retired, run the maintenance department at an aero-space oriented machine shop 3 days a week and own and run a gunsmith shop the rest of time. I take every Friday (FRYEDAY) off to spend the day with my 4 year-old Grandson Ryder who has a bench next to mine in our shop. If I had a crappy life I wouldn't be concerned about preserving it or our family's freedom & future.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 07:21:05 AM » |
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I'm afraid you couldn't be more right, John. I will vote for any GOP nominee who can beat the Hildabeast. I'm still hoping she will be indicted but not holding my breath on that. Obummer is dead set on his replacement being a lefty and if it's HiLIARy so be it - he will do whatever he can to prevent her indictment and I'm betting that includes a pardon and never mind the law that says she can't hold public office after her malfeasance. It's beyond me how the free crap army can vote for her - but clearly the morons will forgive anything, or even stick their heads in the sand in denial and vote for any miscreant who will promise them their free crap. As for me, if it's Trump, I'll hold my nose and pull the lever. I'd love it if the POtuS has to ride a raft back from Havana.
Did you hear the news today, Obummer wants the presidential pension to be increased? I'm sure he needs to come up with additional coin to replace his personal world's most expensive private airplane. Not to mention T-fees, gonna ding his spending money if he has to start paying to continue golfing at the world's most excusive private links.
I honestly don't know how you guys get through your days, being so miserable. I'm not sure where the miserable thing comes from. I've got 4 grown and successful children, all of whom live within 30 minutes. A wonderful wife who is fixing a bacon and eggs breakfast as I type. Five Grandsons ranging in age from 4 to 18, all of whom I am very close to. I'm semi-retired, run the maintenance department at an aero-space oriented machine shop 3 days a week and own and run a gunsmith shop the rest of time. I take every Friday (FRYEDAY) off to spend the day with my 4 year-old Grandson Ryder who has a bench next to mine in our shop. If I had a crappy life I wouldn't be concerned about preserving it or our family's freedom & future. When our rights became subject to constant attacks from the present administration I decided I wanted to do more to preserve them than simply voting, contacting my government officials and donating some of what little money I have to help pro-2nd Amendment candidates. So, I got my FFL back after a 35 year hiatus, built a new building, and with the help of my youngest son, bought 3 used lathes and a mill and learned to use them. I left a full time, GOOD paying job so I could scrape by working part time to do what I believed in. Then I started helping people keep their family heirloom firearms in working order, bringing back neglected firearms into good looking, functioning firearms and helping first time buyers make informed decisions, then ordering their firearms, running the police checks and getting them underway as firearms owners. On top of throwing my financial future into this cause, I've worked and am still working the longest hours of my life because I believe what I'm doing is helping my country and fellow citizens preserve their freedom.
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 07:45:49 AM » |
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I can't believe why some very shallow things are said on this forum. The thought that we must be miserable because we are commenting on where our country is going. The word' concerned' should be substituted for miserable.
I'm not miserable. I've had a full life, worked in a defense plant making sure our Armed Forces got our country's absolute best in equipment. I served willingly in Korea, I had a great wife and have four wonderful children, I was president of our Homeowmers Association plus I served 14 years as a councilman, and I'm still serving on our city's Board of Works and Safety. I received Indiana's highest civilian award "The Sagamore of The Wabash" and yet, I'm miserable? BULLSHIT!
I haven't sat back and waited for government to serve me, I worked for what I have and what I see in this country.
So please, you progressive thinkers out there, give us some slack.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2016, 08:05:18 AM » |
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This is excellent. When I mentioned how so many on here seem to be miserable, I based that on reading your posts. The overall tone of the message is that everyone in government, especially the current administration, is hellbent to take away your freedom, your guns, and anything else you think they're coming after. It's post after post, along with all the bashing. Knowing nothing else about the person, that's the image I see.
These last few comments were great because it gave me, and I'm sure many others, a little glimpse at what other members are about. I haven't met anyone from this forum yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm trying to wrangle the time off to make Inzane this year, but being pretty junior in my new job, my options are a bit limited as far as vacation.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2016, 08:12:41 AM » |
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Great, thoughtful replies, guys!  The VRCC folks I've met on rides and at gatherings are some of the happiest, most down to earth people around anywhere. Most are very talented and intelligent people, and they have their priorities straight. You rarely see miserable Valkyrie riders -- at least in the summertime.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2016, 08:20:07 AM » |
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Yes Baldo, it does make life interesting....and challenging. There's no way I can keep up with all of them so don't try, my oldest granddaughter & her twin brother are 35, she lives nearby and is my only local family contact. About four years ago, following one of our daughter's funerals her husband had reserved a banquet room in a local restaurant for a family gathering. I was talking to my former wife as all the youngsters, both young and older, were running around the room. At one point I counted 27 in attendance, which included the kids and husbands and wives.....all family and that wasn't all of them. I told my ex to look around the room and take it all in, then keep in mind that if either of us hadn't gone to that dance at the YWCA in Denver back in the mid-50's, this room would be empty. I've often wondered what my legacy will be when I leave this blue marble. I think I know....and it has been a rather fertile one at that.  Amazing what two people can create when you only have four daughters.
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And on the miserable topic, I don't think it's possible to be miserable when I have this much:   Quite the opposite. It's because I have so much, because I have so many depending on me, because I have so many that the future depends on, that I will fight 'till my dying breath to preserve and defend the freedoms we have inherited in this great nation. If I were miserable, I wouldn't care. Sometimes I wish I didn't care to be honest, but I do, so I fight on.
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What a great club we have, because of the great members. This is one of those threads that really makes you proud of the VRCC, our members and the USA. By the way, my youngest Grandson Ryder is so named because his Mom had to miss a VRCC event due to her pregnancy. Sadly, we don't find much time or funds to attend these functions now. Such is life. Many thanks for starting this great thread John. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2016, 08:48:07 AM » |
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In truth all elections are important . I'm sure looking back most on here feel '08 was pretty important.
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At the risk of scaring away other riders.......... Baldo dont forget even if you miss Inzane (if your priorities are straight you will not miss it) you are still invited to attend my Columbus weekend ride You can meet (hopefully) lots of great folks, see some nice sights and eat some good food. I cant promise anyone will sit with you though and I am NOT responsible for your personal safety Oss  Just pick another handle when you get here and you will have people to sit with you
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At the risk of scaring away other riders.......... Baldo dont forget even if you miss Inzane (if your priorities are straight you will not miss it) you are still invited to attend my Columbus weekend ride You can meet (hopefully) lots of great folks, see some nice sights and eat some good food. I cant promise anyone will sit with you though and I am NOT responsible for your personal safety Oss  Just pick another handle when you get here and you will have people to sit with you  UhOh , does this mean Baldo and I are going to have to sit back to back with ours guns drawn  Oss you haven't met my wife yet. It goes without saying a 55 year old woman going thru menopause is not someone you take lightly. (Just kidding, she's only mean to me) Catskills here we come 
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As eveyrone said, this has been an eye opening post. Reminds me of the lady who sits with me on the Board of Works and Safety. She is a diehard Democrat who voted for Obama (twice). A while back she said that she didn't know why we (gun owners) wanted to own an assault rifle (her words, not mine). I said because we can. She said a polite word for BS! I replied that the government could commit a sexual indignity upon itself (also in a polite way  ) After that, we never brought up the subject again. We have to do the job in our municipality so personal opinions are now left out. Funny, she has relation in the military and is all for that.
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2016, 12:11:48 PM » |
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At the risk of scaring away other riders.......... Baldo dont forget even if you miss Inzane (if your priorities are straight you will not miss it) you are still invited to attend my Columbus weekend ride You can meet (hopefully) lots of great folks, see some nice sights and eat some good food. I cant promise anyone will sit with you though and I am NOT responsible for your personal safety Oss  Just pick another handle when you get here and you will have people to sit with you Lol.... Definitely intend to join you in NY when it comes around, beautiful time of year.... As far as the handle, don't think I haven't thought of that...... 
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At the risk of scaring away other riders.......... Baldo dont forget even if you miss Inzane (if your priorities are straight you will not miss it) you are still invited to attend my Columbus weekend ride You can meet (hopefully) lots of great folks, see some nice sights and eat some good food. I cant promise anyone will sit with you though and I am NOT responsible for your personal safety Oss  Just pick another handle when you get here and you will have people to sit with you  UhOh , does this mean Baldo and I are going to have to sit back to back with ours guns drawn  Oss you haven't met my wife yet. It goes without saying a 55 year old woman going thru menopause is not someone you take lightly. (Just kidding, she's only mean to me) Catskills here we come  Meathead, I picture it as always knowing where the exits are, and sitting with our backs against the wall, with a clear view of all entrances....  Oh yeah, I'll be the one without any guns...maybe I'll just bring big wrenches or something.
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Yes Baldo, it does make life interesting....and challenging. There's no way I can keep up with all of them so don't try, my oldest granddaughter & her twin brother are 35, she lives nearby and is my only local family contact. About four years ago, following one of our daughter's funerals her husband had reserved a banquet room in a local restaurant for a family gathering. I was talking to my former wife as all the youngsters, both young and older, were running around the room. At one point I counted 27 in attendance, which included the kids and husbands and wives.....all family and that wasn't all of them. I told my ex to look around the room and take it all in, then keep in mind that if either of us hadn't gone to that dance at the YWCA in Denver back in the mid-50's, this room would be empty. I've often wondered what my legacy will be when I leave this blue marble. I think I know....and it has been a rather fertile one at that.  Amazing what two people can create when you only have four daughters. Four daughters did all that!
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2016, 12:20:03 PM » |
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And on the miserable topic, I don't think it's possible to be miserable when I have this much:   Quite the opposite. It's because I have so much, because I have so many depending on me, because I have so many that the future depends on, that I will fight 'till my dying breath to preserve and defend the freedoms we have inherited in this great nation. If I were miserable, I wouldn't care. Sometimes I wish I didn't care to be honest, but I do, so I fight on. Looks like someone has cornered the market on blue eyes.....
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2016, 01:05:00 PM » |
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Great post and so very true. O and his handlers know how important these positions are.
The courts have dictated changes to the US that have changed the very structure of society all the way up to the courts approval of changing the definition of marriage. This was court appointed not a change by Congress that it should have been.
Roosevelt appointed many judges along with Truman both Democrat's it was after this that the courts started to hear separation of Church and state cases.
I wouldn't expect the younger members to fully understand the significance of the way the US is changing since its like the kid of a rich man that has never had to work and yet enjoys the position of money. But once its gone begin to understand and miss the benefits of it.
100 years ago today there was not even income tax in the US. Now with the devaluation of the dollar, health care, the Federal Reserve our money is almost worthless.
The dollar used to be backed by gold rather than just a piece of paper.
By a choice the government today could call martial law, say the dollar is worth nothing, take away all personal freedoms. Do you really want the government to have that much control?
Or do you like our Founding Fathers say that all men are created equal and endowed with certain rights from their Creator. That the government does not have the right to monitor every aspect of our lives.
When you are free you understand what its like to have those freedoms taken away. When you are a slave any freedom given is a treat because you think your master is the one that gives them to you.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2016, 02:08:03 PM » |
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Yes Baldo, it does make life interesting....and challenging. There's no way I can keep up with all of them so don't try, my oldest granddaughter & her twin brother are 35, she lives nearby and is my only local family contact. About four years ago, following one of our daughter's funerals her husband had reserved a banquet room in a local restaurant for a family gathering. I was talking to my former wife as all the youngsters, both young and older, were running around the room. At one point I counted 27 in attendance, which included the kids and husbands and wives.....all family and that wasn't all of them. I told my ex to look around the room and take it all in, then keep in mind that if either of us hadn't gone to that dance at the YWCA in Denver back in the mid-50's, this room would be empty. I've often wondered what my legacy will be when I leave this blue marble. I think I know....and it has been a rather fertile one at that.  Amazing what two people can create when you only have four daughters. Four daughters did all that! Well, they're the ones that gave us/me the 17 grandkids, the second daughter lost her husband in a car accident so when she remarried a few years later she sorta started over.  As for great grandkids, just looking at the ages of their prior generation it appears about half of the 17 are still to enter the child bearing years. That said, the list shall then grow even greater. Looks like I'll have one heck of a funeral procession....which I hope is still a few years away. 
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2016, 04:32:23 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
OK, then I have a question: Who SHOULD we vote for? Your Man Trump? If so, then you need to see https://www.google.com/search?q=confessions+of+a+republican&btnG=Search&gbv=1or view direct at https://youtu.be/LiG0AE8zdTU
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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2016, 05:02:36 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
OK, then I have a question: Who SHOULD we vote for? Your Man Trump? If so, then you need to see https://www.google.com/search?q=confessions+of+a+republican&btnG=Search&gbv=1or view direct at https://youtu.be/LiG0AE8zdTUI probably won't vote for Trump in the primary. But, I'll vote for whoever wins that primary and opposes the anti-constitution crowd in the fall.
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2016, 09:10:09 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
OK, then I have a question: Who SHOULD we vote for? Your Man Trump? If so, then you need to see https://www.google.com/search?q=confessions+of+a+republican&btnG=Search&gbv=1or view direct at https://youtu.be/LiG0AE8zdTUand where did skinhead say his man was Trump?
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2016, 09:23:30 PM » |
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Seen the changes in OUR Country since I got out of the United States Navy in Feb of 1968. And the changes for the most part have not been for the good. gubmint spending TOTALLY COMPETELY out of control. I too served willingly. MY Country called and I answered. If I was young today and MY Country called and with our current "leadership-I doubt I could answer that call today. I do LOVE this Country-It's the "leadership" I question. As to the question of being miserable-not me-I ride a Valkyrie!  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2016, 09:31:59 AM » |
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and where did skinhead say his man was Trump?
You miss the reality of the situation: the balance of the conservative voting constituents are working to make sure your (only) option is Trump. Unless the convention ends in an uproar, Trump will likely be going in with the largest number of delegates and had foreseen "riots" if he does not get the nomination. If the convention is brokered due to a lack of definitive nominee, the GOP's power base will be split and, like Goldwater, defeat almost certain. If Trump is nominated, the GOP will probably lose moderates and swing voters, again losing like Goldwater. Things do not look promising for the Republican party right now. They let a wild gun in and failed to address his rhetoric in an early enough stage to maintain face with everyone except Trump's followers.
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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2016, 09:50:25 AM » |
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CBS's "Face The Nation" is on every Sunday morning - I'd suggest all you political junkies watch it or similar shows weekly. I'll go out on a limb and say we're seeing the distruction of the Republican party as we now know it.
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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2016, 03:44:10 PM » |
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You miss the reality of the situation: the balance of the conservative voting constituents are working to make sure your (only) option is Trump. Unless the convention ends in an uproar, Trump will likely be going in with the largest number of delegates and had foreseen "riots" if he does not get the nomination. If the convention is brokered due to a lack of definitive nominee, the GOP's power base will be split and, like Goldwater, defeat almost certain. If Trump is nominated, the GOP will probably lose moderates and swing voters, again losing like Goldwater.
Things do not look promising for the Republican party right now. They let a wild gun in and failed to address his rhetoric in an early enough stage to maintain face with everyone except Trump's followers.
Just out of curiosity, when did 35-37% become a majority? That would leave 63-65% of the voters in the republican party opposed to the P.T. Barnum show. I will vote for the actual conservatives on the ballot at the state level. The huckster is a question that I will decide how to answer if he is on the ballot in November. Hopefully a grown-up will actually be on the ballot as opposed to the Cain or Able act that the two party system seems determined to shove up our collective a$$es. I vote to abolish political parties and vote for the best candidate you think available, but that would be like trying to stick my finger in the crumbling dyke during Katrina. As far as riots anywhere, there are plenty of jail cells if you can find a DA and a Judge willing to do their jobs.
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2016, 04:48:07 PM » |
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As eveyrone said, this has been an eye opening post. Reminds me of the lady who sits with me on the Board of Works and Safety. She is a diehard Democrat who voted for Obama (twice). A while back she said that she didn't know why we (gun owners) wanted to own an assault rifle (her words, not mine). I said because we can. She said a polite word for BS! I replied that the government could commit a sexual indignity upon itself (also in a polite way  ) Snip Funny, she has relation in the military and is all for that. I believe I would have taken the opportunity to explain to her what the definition of an assault weapon is. Not that it would have made much difference in her position. http://civilliberty.about.com/od/guncontrol/a/Assault-Weapons.htm
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2016, 06:19:20 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
Very much not miserable, skinhead
Very well said! That's a hard lesson for the left to learn.
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2016, 07:25:57 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
Very much not miserable, skinhead
Very well said! That's a hard lesson for the left to learn. Exactly how is that a hard lesson for the LEFT to learn??! Wasn't it the RIGHT that had/has opposed the 14th Amendment, universal suffrage, women's rights, gay rights, etc etc? So the left wants to block gun rights, and that's a rallying cry that THEY have been the "oppressors"? Wow. Just...wow. And they say that minorities have a victim mentality.
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2016, 07:39:19 PM » |
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I think the miserable ones are those that cannot accept the fact that freedom means you are just as free to not do something you don't like or agree with, as you are free to do the things you enjoy. You do not have to ban or take the freedoms you don't enjoy or agree with from those that do, you simply choose not to exercise them.
This extends to religion as well as firearms, free to practice or not, it is up to you.
I don't want to take away your right to be an idiot and vote for obama, clinton, or sanders, I simply choose to not do it, while allowing you to be free to do so and be a fool if that is what you enjoy.
Very much not miserable, skinhead
Very well said! That's a hard lesson for the left to learn. Exactly how is that a hard lesson for the LEFT to learn??! Wasn't it the RIGHT that had/has opposed the 14th Amendment, universal suffrage, women's rights, gay rights, etc etc? So the left wants to block gun rights, and that's a rallying cry that THEY have been the "oppressors"? Wow. Just...wow. And they say that minorities have a victim mentality. Three points: 1) Not a single Democrat in the house OR senate voted for the 14th amendment. 2) The 2nd Amendment is, by far, the most important because, without it, all the others are just words on paper. 3) I agree that ALL rights should be respected. All of them. For everyone. Total believer in the NAP here.
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