Old men

[Patrick]

 This sums it up rather well, I’d say……..
 
Classic....
 
Why Older Men Don't Get Hired
 

 
Job Interview:
 Human Resources Manager: "What is your greatest weakness?"
 Old Man : "Honesty!"
 Human Resources Manager: "I don't think honesty is a weakness."
 Old Man : "I don't give a f**k what you think."
 
Enjoy Life - It has an expiration date.
 
 

[Jess from VA]

 

[Mr Whiskey]

Now THAT'S goin' on the bathroom wall

[Ramie]

I'm officially and old fart now and can't count the number of times I've wanted to say that, maybe when I retire.

[cookiedough]

I think the reason on why older men (say pushing 50 on up) do not get hired is because employers/HR think we will get sick more often than younger adults under 35 and increase their premiums the employer have to pay out.

I've seen this scenario 100's of times applying for jobs they'd rather take the recent college graduate say 23 years old over me being 45 with 20+ years experience for same pay which is fine with me in terms of pay (or almost within 1-2 bucks more I would want tops maybe vs. a new college grad with no job experience)  What they don't get is I show up for work EVERY DAY vs. some 20 year old who either goofs off at work on the internet or cell phone for hours or misses 1-2 days every few weeks calling in sick. 

I think once into the 50's and even more so pushing 60,  employers discriminate even worse than someone in their 40's.  Is not right, but is true in most instances.

[WoodyFL]

However, many firms realize that the younger generation has no where near the work ethic that us
'Ol Geezers' have. We were raised in the generation that had to work for what we wanted, not have it handed to us!

Bob

[cookiedough]

However, many firms realize that the younger generation has no where near the work ethic that us
'Ol Geezers' have. We were raised in the generation that had to work for what we wanted, not have it handed to us!

Bob

Yes, but unfortunately for the most part the 'younger' generation is in HR and they don't see it that way.  I applied for a job I am very well qualified for been wanting to get in for years and years and they ONLY hire young in their 20's right out of college kids and they keep hiring and hiring them every few years for SAME job for same pay I would want.    That is their 'culture'  and have heard than from dozens of others as well.  If I could get in, I would probably stick it out and work there for the next 20 years vs. hiring 20 year olds who quit after 2-3 years tops and move on.

[Jess from VA]

IMHO, the principle reason for age discrimination in public and private employment is money.

Longer term employees make more.  

They also have more experience and do the agency far more good than rookies.  But when managers and HR types calculate they can hire three rookies for your pay the two way loyalty street takes a hike.  They hope to hire the three, train them up quickly, and be even money.

One other thing, long term employees tend to know BS when they hear it, and don't mind calling it BS.  Management hates that.  It's much easier intimidating (owning) rookies than experts.

I found it entertaining working for a couple (USDVA) judges that I trained when they were new.  When asked why I didn't go for judge, I told them I was a lawyer not a politician and nursemaid to rookies.  They didn't like that either.  

[hukmut]

When I reached, well, old enough, I suddenly became "over qualified".
Screw that! I decided to open my own cursed business and just see how much " market share" I could squeeze out of their business! Did rather well up until Katrina came and rearranged ALL of our lives. We had to move and never really fully recovered. Say LA vee!


Ride safe and see you in Morgantown.

[cookiedough]

I bet 7 or 8 out of 10 employers will hire a 24 year old right out of college vs. a 50 year old with 20 years experience in the industry for just about the same amount of money.  Just the way it goes, around me at least, depending on industry of course.

Age discrimination sucks, but I hear it ALL the time even where I currently work that the young bucks goof off on internet or cell phone for hours and expect that is the norm.   

I don't see it changing until I retire in another 20+ years.  The way of the world nowadays unfortunately.   

I also know job hopping is rapidly growing it seems like the younger generation job hop every couple of years showing no loyalty whatsoever.  I have to have a good reason to job hop since as I age,  job hopping doesn't work for us older folks.  Being appreciated and having good supervisors and co-workers means MORE to me than money, speaking from over 20 years of working experience, I've learned that lesson the hard way when I was pushing 30 had a cushy, cushy job decent money and GREAT benefits quitting my job for an up and coming tech company and unfortunately left to go work for them and after 5 months I quit with NO job lined up since boss was a psycho bitch and mostly horrible co-workers bunch of young geeky punks who only cared about themselves and not how the workflow should be done. 

[art]

I hate the words Human Resource. I'm not a resource. I'm a employed person, a man. I also heard a supervisor call his men tools to be used as he wanted.  As far as I'm concerned he could take his tool and stick it where the sun don't shine. This was how I felt ten years ago when I was in the work force. Best thing ever is now I'm retired.

[hukmut]

One of the things that really got to me was my last paycheck for a group I was working with was called "PeopleLease".
EXCUSE ME!?!?



Oh, yes. Ride safe and see you in Morgantown.

[Hooter]

  The "over qualified" statement is a crock....About 20 years ago I got tired of what I was doing and started looking around. My dad was a carpet / flooring installer and I learned the trade from him. by working with him for years. I was in LE / fire service at the time and was getting sick of the political crap.
   I applied at a local large boat builder (Yatchs) to install floors in their large high end boats. Never been layed off, collected workers comp or unemjoyment, or took time off. I had and have a good work ethic. I had an interview and it went well...so I thought! A week or so later I got a letter in the mail from the company and they said I was over qualified. WTH...and why? Never did understand that. They asked for an installer and I had years of experience. But, I was over qualified.

[FLAVALK]

However, many firms realize that the younger generation has no where near the work ethic that us
'Ol Geezers' have. We were raised in the generation that had to work for what we wanted, not have it handed to us!

Bob

Don't paint with such a broad brush. I know some Millennials with an excellent work ethic, my daughter being one of them. The only problem is most of em don't know what the eff their doing....