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You would think Trump would have learned something from Romney about not releasing them.
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He may have alot to hide, he may just be going against the grain like he has been doing with everything else. I bet even if he released his returns and everything was ok, he would be hammered and they would find something and make a huge deal out of it.
Clinton I think wouldn't release his medical records, Obama I think was his grades, "what does it matter at this point"!
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2016, 01:06:50 PM » |
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It seems the last I heard Trump was being audited and said it wouldn't be appropriate to release until it was finished. That was awhile ago though.
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Whats the big deal on tax returns? In general.
Not that it would change my vote for him...
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2016, 02:53:27 PM » |
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You would think Trump would have learned something from Romney about not releasing them.
Based on what Trump has stated, I'd say he did learn something. To be released after the audit is over. That could be sometime after his two terms are up. I'm pretty confident he's got some very good tax attorneys and tax accountants working for him. 
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Whats the big deal on tax returns? In a perfect world, the press would want to explore all candidates backgrounds (including tax returns) to publish findings in the public's general interest. In our world, the wing of the democratic party known as the Main Stream Media acts (at no charge) as the attack dog against anyone making a serious run against any democrat (especially any incumbent). Looking under rocks, making crap up, quoting out of context, and generally creating news rather than reporting news. You will note the general absence of much (main stream) press coverage of the Bitch's past bad acts (of which there are enough to fill books). Ask her why we can't look at her medical records (cough, cough). If Trump's returns proved squeaky clean, the MSM would nonetheless bemoan him as being filthy rich.... a well known leftist sin of the first order. Edit: Now that Don is the presumptive R nominee, the Washington Post ( DC Pravda) has assigned 20 of their journalists full-time to looking under rocks for Don stuff (and to prepare a book). http://video.foxnews.com/v/4890696506001/washington-post-assigns-20-reporters-to-dig-dirt-on-trump/?intcmp=hpbt3#sp=show-clips
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Whats the big deal on tax returns? In general.
Not that it would change my vote for him...
In general I would say it gives a glimpse into a persons character. If for instance a person is rich and says they give x amount of money to charities and then it turns out that they didn't, that gives an idea of what kind of person they are. Or if a person is rich and ends up paying less in taxes than his secretary because of loopholes that also shows a little of their character. You are probably right in that it wouldn't change some peoples votes but for the ones who are undecided it might be important. In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them.
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In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 07:43:46 PM » |
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In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them.
I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. Nope, all I'm saying is that if Obama had cut to the chase when asked, it would have never been an issue. Character flaw, something to hide, you tell me.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. Nope, all I'm saying is that if Obama had cut to the chase when asked, it would have never been an issue. Character flaw, something to hide, you tell me. Like I said it's a new election between Clinton and Trump. Obama is done. If Trump is going to hide his tax returns it's going to hurt his chances. It's not a lethal blow but it doesn't help.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing. 
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?What part of his well hidden history do you suppose he would release after he leaves office? My guess would be not one single thing.
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Story came out today that the Clinton Foundation received over 100 million dollars from Middle East leaders WHILE Hiliary was Sec. of State and SHE IS running for President?????
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Ok. I understand your position. We need to know EVERYTHING about repubs, but Clinton, Obama, et al, are perfectly within their rights to hide everything possible damaging to them, and it is all right with you. Progressive double standard does not surprise me at all any more. Does disappoint though.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Ok. I understand your position. We need to know EVERYTHING about repubs, but Clinton, Obama, et al, are perfectly within their rights to hide everything possible damaging to them, and it is all right with you. Progressive double standard does not surprise me at all any more. Does disappoint though. MP, I never said anything was alright with me. I just asked a question of strategy for THIS election. You guys can keep gnashing your teeth about Obama's birth certificate, college records, etc. For the life of me I don't see how that it going to help you win THIS election.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Ok. I understand your position. We need to know EVERYTHING about repubs, but Clinton, Obama, et al, are perfectly within their rights to hide everything possible damaging to them, and it is all right with you. Progressive double standard does not surprise me at all any more. Does disappoint though. MP, I never said anything was alright with me. I just asked a question of strategy for THIS election. You guys can keep gnashing your teeth about Obama's birth certificate, college records, etc. For the life of me I don't see how that it going to help you win THIS election. I do not think they are using this as a bitch session for Obama! I think as I read it they are stating as to why so many are concerned about his tax returns and yet they gave Obama a pass on his records. Its a comparison, not a bitch! I personally do not agree with all of Trumps stands on issues but I could give a s**t about his tax returns. As I think most libs could give a s##t about Obama's records. Its a stand off!
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Gosh, sorry, I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on discovery of lies, frauds, stealing and misuse of power. Where we are now is a direct reflection of many things but, most division issues can be attributed to the Obama administration. All credit and discredit due should be appropriately passed out.
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If you guys want to keep rehashing Obama's birth certificate and his college records YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THE NEXT ELECTION AGAIN.  According to the current "media" polls, Hillary is already winning. So, what's yer point?
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2016, 07:03:40 AM » |
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Not that it would change my vote for him...
In general I would say it gives a glimpse into a persons character. If for instance a person is rich and says they give x amount of money to charities and then it turns out that they didn't, that gives an idea of what kind of person they are. Or if a person is rich and ends up paying less in taxes than his secretary because of loopholes that also shows a little of their character. You are probably right in that it wouldn't change some peoples votes but for the ones who are undecided it might be important. In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them. There you go, loopholes. who put them there, if it is a legal loophole, a person or company would be foolish to not take advantage. Do you claim mortgage interest??? That is a loophole isn't it. Liberals just love sound bites that sound bad, but mean nothing.
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Not that it would change my vote for him...
In general I would say it gives a glimpse into a persons character. If for instance a person is rich and says they give x amount of money to charities and then it turns out that they didn't, that gives an idea of what kind of person they are. Or if a person is rich and ends up paying less in taxes than his secretary because of loopholes that also shows a little of their character. You are probably right in that it wouldn't change some peoples votes but for the ones who are undecided it might be important. In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them. There you go, loopholes. who put them there, if it is a legal loophole, a person or company would be foolish to not take advantage. Do you claim mortgage interest??? That is a loophole isn't it. Liberals just love sound bites that sound bad, but mean nothing. Here we go with facts again. We done need no steenkin facts to be mouth foaming hysterics.
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Not that it would change my vote for him...
In general I would say it gives a glimpse into a persons character. If for instance a person is rich and says they give x amount of money to charities and then it turns out that they didn't, that gives an idea of what kind of person they are. Or if a person is rich and ends up paying less in taxes than his secretary because of loopholes that also shows a little of their character. You are probably right in that it wouldn't change some peoples votes but for the ones who are undecided it might be important. In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them. There you go, loopholes. who put them there, if it is a legal loophole, a person or company would be foolish to not take advantage. Do you claim mortgage interest??? That is a loophole isn't it. Liberals just love sound bites that sound bad, but mean nothing. Who put them there ? Generally speaking it is corrupt politicians bought off by lobbyists of BOTH parties. I did not say the loop holes were illegal. But if a rich person is able to avail themselves of loop holes that keep them from paying much in taxes, it would be understandable why they wouldn't want the poor working Joe who doesn't have that ability to use the loop holes to not find out about them.
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Not that it would change my vote for him...
In general I would say it gives a glimpse into a persons character. If for instance a person is rich and says they give x amount of money to charities and then it turns out that they didn't, that gives an idea of what kind of person they are. Or if a person is rich and ends up paying less in taxes than his secretary because of loopholes that also shows a little of their character. You are probably right in that it wouldn't change some peoples votes but for the ones who are undecided it might be important. In general it just appears that they want to hide something about their finances if they don't release them. There you go, loopholes. who put them there, if it is a legal loophole, a person or company would be foolish to not take advantage. Do you claim mortgage interest??? That is a loophole isn't it. Liberals just love sound bites that sound bad, but mean nothing. Who put them there ? Generally speaking it is corrupt politicians bought off by lobbyists of BOTH parties. I did not say the loop holes were illegal. But if a rich person is able to avail themselves of loop holes that keep them from paying much in taxes, it would be understandable why they wouldn't want the poor working Joe who doesn't have that ability to use the loop holes to not find out about them. MH, you're wasting your time with these guys. They're not happy unless they're not happy.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Gosh, sorry, I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on discovery of lies, frauds, stealing and misuse of power. Where we are now is a direct reflection of many things but, most division issues can be attributed to the Obama administration. All credit and discredit due should be appropriately passed out. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asphttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.aspThere's lots more out there, it really isn't hard to find. But I'm tired of the same old shnitzel from the haters. Time to find another gear, fellas.
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I'd almost agree. Kind of like Obama's academic records and dissertation papers............... Or, a birth certificate, maybe even a "transparent" administration promise. Yeah, I agree, there might be a character flaw..  You aren't going to the Birther theory again are you ? Obama is almost gone. You skipped over the academic records. He still has them sealed, doesn't he? What is so seriously wrong that he STILL needs to hide it?  Guys Obama's tenure is over !!! Get over it and move on. I'm beginning to think you guys don't want to win, you just want to bitch about losing.  Gosh, sorry, I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on discovery of lies, frauds, stealing and misuse of power. Where we are now is a direct reflection of many things but, most division issues can be attributed to the Obama administration. All credit and discredit due should be appropriately passed out. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asphttp://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.aspThere's lots more out there, it really isn't hard to find. But I'm tired of the same old shnitzel from the haters. Time to find another gear, fellas. Howabout YOU finding a non biased source. Time to find another gear fella.
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I have never brought up his birth records, yet you keep referencing it in regards to my posts.
Dems call for Trumps taxes, yet refuse to have Hillary release her transcripts. Hillary DELETES over 30,000 emails, and Dems go ho hum. Yes, the double standard is alive and well.
There, RELEVANT to THIS election.
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Jess, I noticed our leftist brothers didn't bother replying to this. A newspaper hires 20 investigator's to look into ONE of the presidential candidates entire life, and no opposition from those claiming to be liberal. I hope Trump tears her apart in the debates. I don't care if he sounds like a school kid cursing out her mother. I hope he brings up EVERYTHING around all the right-wing made-up scandals. A political whore of a B I T C H lies to the parents of dead soldiers, deletes 30,000 documents of evidence, headed up 4 years of foreign policy failures, stood by a supported her sexual predator husband, and they're investigating Trump's life? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? How did it all get so backwards? And how do supposedly educated people get in line with this? Keepin it classy...... As far as the debates, I plan on DVRing them. Trump is going to reveal himself to be the farce that he is. Clinton will chew him up and spit him out. And this is from a non-Hilary fan.
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baldo
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2016, 11:03:24 AM » |
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Howabout YOU finding a non biased source. Time to find another gear fella.
Oh yes, I keep forgetting. I'm getting tired of supplying these links for you guys. Maybe you could bookmark them? http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2016, 12:55:32 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2016, 02:31:31 PM » |
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Keepin it classy......
She lied to the parents of dead soldiers. As far as I'm concerned, she, Obama, Rice, and anyone else in that room when the decision was made to lie to the American people about the deaths of Americans in Libya, with Clinton lying directly to the parents of dead soldiers, does not deserve to be dealt with with class. They're names should be smeared. They should be shamed. Instead, one is running for president. Sickening.
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