Is O at war with the American people?

[Robert]

Obama is at war with the American people.

What disturbs me more than Obama's ideas on how the US should be is his lack of self control to use every method given him because of his office or taken by him against the constitution, at his disposal to achieve his own personal goals. I believe as his term winds down he has made a goal of living beyond his term in office by appointing to the Justice dept people who would carry out his agenda when he leaves. I would not be surprised if this was talked about in the appointing of people to their positions. He has disgraced the dignity of the office and the people of the US by trying to change the fabric of the US. He has not held by the rule of law even in the construction of Obama care but by the idea he wanted to implement a policy of health care and reform given to him. He has put his name on this piece of wealth distribution, that was in the planning for years. This piece of legislation has cost the US taxpayer and individual trillions of dollars. As with this idea I doubt very seriously that all the policies that Obama is going forward with are his own.  They are not the American peoples either but are part of special interests.

We see as resistance mounts to his policies not a rethinking of maybe this is not the best course of action but a obstinate plowing forward with legal and lobbying at the cost of tax payers who the majority do not want what has been dished out. When we see him fail in the courts the embarrassment and disagreement by the courts leaves him unphased. This is a point it  should not get to this because it again wastes tax payers money on legal suits and court costs and maybe its not dignified for a President to battling the people he supposedly represents. He has disregarded previous laws and went the opposite direction not in alignment with Congress or even the States but by his own pen and phone. He uses the Justice dept to enforce at the point of a lawsuit, jail time, or any other tactic like denying of funds to achieve his own personal goals. Instead of being a champion of all the people he has aligned himself with a few and enacted policies that are gutting the middle class and threatening anyone who does not go along with him.  I think he has disgraced the office of President, changed the course of the US in a negative way enacted laws that have cost the tax payer trillions and forced agendas on people who did not want them. Instead of unity to many he is at war over policy against the US people and the very lifestyle of the US. I believe he is bringing in line the US with how others around the globe rather than playing to the excellence of the US. You can bring someone down to a level or raise everyone up if you do both then you make everyone even and there is no excellence.

If you ask today if I am better off than I was when he started his terms I would have to say in someways yes but in most ways NO. 

I have never seen so clearly the statement absolute power corrupts absolutely being able to be applied more correctly than in this president.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thats going to be what gets that ruling changed. 

[Jess from VA]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

[Rams]

While not an exact quote, he did promise to change America.

He didn't indicate that it was necessarily for the better now, did he?   

[John Schmidt]

Kinda reminds me of that old joke about the guy that told his wife he wanted to make love to her in the worst way. She simply told him he has succeeded. Obama has stated much the same, wanted to change the U.S. in the worst way. So far, he's been quite successful. 

[baldo]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

    Only by a certain group.....

[TallRider]

And now the establishment Repub's are hell bent on pushing Hillary in to continue the disaster. At least we had Reagan to fix the Carter mess and  stablize things. I do not know what will happen if we don''t get the right person in now. Trump not my first choice but deffinitely not Hillary "or Sanders" for that matter.

[MarkT]

And now the establishment Repub's are hell bent on pushing Hillary in to continue the disaster. At least we had Reagan to fix the Carter mess and  stablize things. I do not know what will happen if we don''t get the right person in now. Trump not my first choice but deffinitely not Hillary "or Sanders" for that matter.

I'm afraid we are practically assured we will be saddled with the Hildabeast for the next 2 terms.  God help us.  With Trump saying stupid things shooting himself in the foot, and the RNC refusing to support him - can't see the forest for the trees -  while Zero's administration is indirectly (or directly under the table) stopping the FBI indicting the Beast just to assure his policies continue and are even expanded.  Then we get the legacy of a neutral SCOTUS (just for the moment)  soon to be very left...  The next 20 years or so should put our country in unrecoverable decline.  Good thing I've lived most of my life.  But I feel so bad for the young ones, my kids, their kids...

[Patrick]

We voted for fundamental change and we did it twice. Well, we're getting it.

[Rams]

We voted for fundamental change and we did it twice. Well, we're getting it.

True and we get reminded of that almost daily.   What I wonder is, will those who voted for this course change back then realize the error of their ways and help reset the course this election.   No doubt some will but, I fear not enough.

[f6john]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

    Only by a certain group.....

 And what group would you consider that to be? A serious question I assure you.

[Patrick]

We voted for fundamental change and we did it twice. Well, we're getting it.

True and we get reminded of that almost daily.   What I wonder is, will those who voted for this course change back then realize the error of their ways and help reset the course this election.   No doubt some will but, I fear not enough.

With the numbers that are in love with hillary and bernie I fear you are right.  I believe there are just too many clueless people in this country.
Since I'm now well into playing the back nine I should just sit back and enjoy the nannie state ride. I just can't do that though, I'm not built that way.

[baldo]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

    Only by a certain group.....

 And what group would you consider that to be? A serious question I assure you.

I think it would be safe to say that group is well represented by 98% of the frequent posters on this board...

[f6john]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

    Only by a certain group.....

 And what group would you consider that to be? A serious question I assure you.

I think it would be safe to say that group is well represented by 98% of the frequent posters on this board...

   Can you elaborate? You said "a certain group".  On here the percentage may be higher than 98%. Saying "certain group" is like saying "you people" to someone of a different race or ethnic background. Just trying to figure out if you think the users of this board are alone in our distaste for the current President. I know you like to poke the bear and that may have been your only intent with your statement.

[Firefighter]

This is a big chunk of the liberal agenda that "O" has been able to push through. Most democrats have been trying for years to do the same, and it has been happening a piece at a time.  Gun control, higher taxes or anything that can reduce american rights, create victims (transgender), and grow government to eventially take us over some day.  Being black has help "O" alot as no one wants to oppose because the onboard media will spin the situation into racism. Most media TV, Face Book, social medias, schools and colleges etc. are liberal. Most younger naive people get there education from social media, and they are indoctrinated in school. I figured that out years ago when I compaired what my kids were taught and what I was taught. Think Obama care is to help us, it is to make us dependent.

Our republicans don't seem to want to step up to the plate, don't wont to rock their on boat I guess. America could be so grand if government would leave it alone. We are better off in some ways, but that is not because of the liberal takeover.

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down, which is why they give away everything, and promise to pay your way for you and your vote. What they want is to bring us so far down that all of us will have to take what ever deal offered, and be ruled.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down,

Really ? If you are willing to give up your Social Security check, your Medicare, your civil rights then I am willing to listen.

[baldo]

This is a big chunk of the liberal agenda that "O" has been able to push through. Most democrats have been trying for years to do the same, and it has been happening a piece at a time.  Gun control, higher taxes or anything that can reduce american rights, create victims (transgender), and grow government to eventially take us over some day.  Being black has help "O" alot as no one wants to oppose because the onboard media will spin the situation into racism. Most media TV, Face Book, social medias, schools and colleges etc. are liberal. Most younger naive people get there education from social media, and they are indoctrinated in school. I figured that out years ago when I compaired what my kids were taught and what I was taught. Think Obama care is to help us, it is to make us dependent.

Our republicans don't seem to want to step up to the plate, don't wont to rock their on boat I guess. America could be so grand if government would leave it alone. We are better off in some ways, but that is not because of the liberal takeover.

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down, which is why they give away everything, and promise to pay your way for you and your vote. What they want is to bring us so far down that all of us will have to take what ever deal offered, and be ruled.

  ...Wow, how do you get out of bed every morning?

[art]

And now the establishment Repub's are hell bent on pushing Hillary in to continue the disaster. At least we had Reagan to fix the Carter mess and  stablize things. I do not know what will happen if we don''t get the right person in now. Trump not my first choice but deffinitely not Hillary "or Sanders" for that matter.

I'm afraid we are practically assured we will be saddled with the Hildabeast for the next 2 terms.  God help us.  With Trump saying stupid things shooting himself in the foot, and the RNC refusing to support him - can't see the forest for the trees -  while Zero's administration is indirectly (or directly under the table) stopping the FBI indicting the Beast just to assure his policies continue and are even expanded.  Then we get the legacy of a neutral SCOTUS (just for the moment)  soon to be very left...  The next 20 years or so should put our country in unrecoverable decline.  Good thing I've lived most of my life.  But I feel so bad for the young ones, my kids, their kids...

Same feeling here except the hilldabeast being pres.  I'm not convinced she will make it. I'm willing to give Trump a chance . What do we have to lose? O screwed up everything already as do most politicians. Give a non politician a try.

[baldo]

For such a narcissist, he seems unfazed by being the most hated man in American history.

    Only by a certain group.....

 And what group would you consider that to be? A serious question I assure you.

I think it would be safe to say that group is well represented by 98% of the frequent posters on this board...

   Can you elaborate? You said "a certain group".  On here the percentage may be higher than 98%. Saying "certain group" is like saying "you people" to someone of a different race or ethnic background. Just trying to figure out if you think the users of this board are alone in our distaste for the current President. I know you like to poke the bear and that may have been your only intent with your statement.

I'll make it easy for you, although I thought it would be plainly evident. The group to which I refer is the angry, conservative male/female who believes our current President is either a Communist, Muslim, foreign born, America hating, tyrannical, empirical, gay (not that there's anything wrong with that), Constitution shredding despot that will not rest until the country is a smoking hole. Any combination of these would apply.

As far as my intent....if standing up for my beliefs, which are usually 180 out from most, is what you consider 'poking the bear'. Well, give me a stick.

[Pappy!]

 

 our current President is either a Communist, Muslim, foreign born, America hating, tyrannical, empirical, gay (not that there's anything wrong with that), Constitution shredding despot that will not rest until the country is a smoking hole.

Can you say....."all of the above?" May not be gay but what the Hell....throw that in there as well.

[Bighead]

 

[Firefighter]

Baldo, not a clue what you mean.

Meathead, I am living off my retirement and my savings, paying 650.00 a month for my health insurance, not old enough for social security or medicare that I have been paying into all my life. I wont get much social security as the government will penalize me for having a retirement.

Not trying to be funny, but what part do you not understand or disagree?

[Jess from VA]

This is a big chunk of the liberal agenda that "O" has been able to push through. Most democrats have been trying for years to do the same, and it has been happening a piece at a time.  Gun control, higher taxes or anything that can reduce american rights, create victims (transgender), and grow government to eventially take us over some day.  Being black has help "O" alot as no one wants to oppose because the onboard media will spin the situation into racism. Most media TV, Face Book, social medias, schools and colleges etc. are liberal. Most younger naive people get there education from social media, and they are indoctrinated in school. I figured that out years ago when I compaired what my kids were taught and what I was taught. Think Obama care is to help us, it is to make us dependent.

Our republicans don't seem to want to step up to the plate, don't wont to rock their on boat I guess. America could be so grand if government would leave it alone. We are better off in some ways, but that is not because of the liberal takeover.

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down, which is why they give away everything, and promise to pay your way for you and your vote. What they want is to bring us so far down that all of us will have to take what ever deal offered, and be ruled.

Very well said!! 

Except the Free Sh!t Army (growing daily, per the socialist plan/doctrine) has every reason to vote for them.  (They could not care less about the philosophy, doctrine, plan, theory, platform.... they just want the free money, and will not stop voting for it; which is also the plan) 

[baldo]

 

 our current President is either a Communist, Muslim, foreign born, America hating, tyrannical, empirical, gay (not that there's anything wrong with that), Constitution shredding despot that will not rest until the country is a smoking hole.

Can you say....."all of the above?" May not be gay but what the Hell....throw that in there as well.

Why not, it's just as batshyte crazy as the rest....

[Firefighter]

Jess, that was what I meant, I agree. That is why liberals get elected. Years ago we had Mark White running for governer here in Texas, he told everyone he was going to lower their electric bills! Bill Clinton was going to try to do something about tornados. Cash for clunkers, free phones, free breakfast and lunch at our schools, parents can come for breakfast too. Didn't I read Sanders wants to pay for college?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Baldo, not a clue what you mean.

Meathead, I am living off my retirement and my savings, paying 650.00 a month for my health insurance, not old enough for social security or medicare that I have been paying into all my life. I wont get much social security as the government will penalize me for having a retirement.

Not trying to be funny, but what part do you not understand or disagree?

FF, I'm not trying to be funny either. The point I was trying to make is, your statement that Liberals have done nothing for this country is just incorrect. It's fine to be on the other side of the politics but to say that FDR, JFK, LBJ and others have done nothing for this country is just foolish.

[Jess from VA]

Perhaps, but those liberals of the past did not operate from an abiding hatred of traditional America, it's values, and it's people.

[Firefighter]

JFK was probably the last conserative democrat president, he cut taxes, but had some liberal civil rights views, I would probably vote for him,,, but,, liberals have come along way baby.

Even if social security was well intended (not saying it was) the libs have shreaded it and tapped into it so as it is unfunded and unstable now. Promise this and that for votes not our country.

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down, which is why they give away everything, and promise to pay your way for you and your vote.

This is what I said, I am talking about liberals in the last 30 years or so. Name something good that any of your favorite democrats have done for you. Just one reason to vote for them.

[The emperor has no clothes]

JFK was probably the last conserative democrat president, he cut taxes, but had some liberal civil rights views, I would probably vote for him,,, but,, liberals have come along way baby.

Even if social security was well intended (not saying it was) the libs have shreaded it and tapped into it so as it is unfunded and unstable now. Promise this and that for votes not our country.

Liberals have nothing to give, there is no reason to vote for them, there policys only bring us down, which is why they give away everything, and promise to pay your way for you and your vote.

This is what I said, I am talking about liberals in the last 30 years or so. Name something good that any of your favorite democrats have done for you. Just one reason to vote for them.

Well in that case a principled man would not take SS or Medicare from the govt. It was both Democrats and Republicans that spent the money from Social Security and put IOU's in the box. There is plenty of good things liberals have done. But if you want to paint all liberals as evil there is not much sense in stating them. There are good people of both sides, the sooner we quit demagoguing the other side the sooner we can "Make America Great Again". (Although we are still great)

[baldo]

Even if social security was well intended (not saying it was) the libs have shreaded it and tapped into it so as it is unfunded and unstable now. Promise this and that for votes not our country.

"Libs have shredded it" ???????

http://alexanderhiggins.com/how-your-social-security-money-was-stolen-where-did-the-2-5-trillion-surplus-go/

As MH has stated, both sides have had a hand in the theft of our retirement. But it was engineered and implemented by Saint Ronnie.

[Serk]

Well in that case a principled man would not take SS or Medicare from the govt.

Give me the option to opt out of the government stealing a sizable portion of my income every year going forward and I'll happily opt out of receiving SS and/or Medicare later in life. But, when a highway robber steals from you every paycheck for your entire life promising to give you a small portion back later in life, what's not principled about taking that small portion of your stolen property back when/if it's offered?

[Firefighter]

Yea, I agree both sides have spent the money or go along with the spending. Republicans have not been conserative at all for a long time, Bush spent way too much, nothing like the "O", but was very liberal. No ideal how Trump could do, but don't expect him to be conserative.

I want my government to stop all the wild spending on programs (growing the government), stop illeagals from infiltrating our border, build our military back so as to deter our enemys, take care of our veterans, and get out of the way of the free market.

Don't like arguing with you guys, rather ride with you!

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well in that case a principled man would not take SS or Medicare from the govt.

Give me the option to opt out of the government stealing a sizable portion of my income every year going forward and I'll happily opt out of receiving SS and/or Medicare later in life. But, when a highway robber steals from you every paycheck for your entire life promising to give you a small portion back later in life, what's not principled about taking that small portion of your stolen property back when/if it's offered?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/
 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Yea, I agree both sides have spent the money or go along with the spending. Republicans have not been conserative at all for a long time, Bush spent way too much, nothing like the "O", but was very liberal. No ideal how Trump could do, but don't expect him to be conserative.

I want my government to stop all the wild spending on programs (growing the government), stop illeagals from infiltrating our border, build our military back so as to deter our enemys, take care of our veterans, and get out of the way of the free market.

Don't like arguing with you guys, rather ride with you!

FF, you have always been respectful. I don't consider us arguing.  But I agree we would be better riding buddies than political buddies. 

[baldo]

Yea, I agree both sides have spent the money or go along with the spending. Republicans have not been conserative at all for a long time, Bush spent way too much, nothing like the "O", but was very liberal. No ideal how Trump could do, but don't expect him to be conserative.

I want my government to stop all the wild spending on programs (growing the government), stop illeagals from infiltrating our border, build our military back so as to deter our enemys, take care of our veterans, and get out of the way of the free market.

Don't like arguing with you guys, rather ride with you!

FF, you have always been respectful. I don't consider us arguing.  But I agree we would be better riding buddies than political buddies. 

Agreed FF. You've always been respectful in any discussions. Politics and religion are very touchy subjects, easy to become escalated.....

Riding is much more fun.....

[Rams]

to say that FDR, JFK, LBJ and others have done nothing for this country is just foolish.

My understanding is  there are about 100,000 comedians out of work, assuming you have a day job, don't quit.   You need a tad bit better material.

But, it is humorous, not funny but  a good attempt. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

to say that FDR, JFK, LBJ and others have done nothing for this country is just foolish.

My understanding is  there are about 100,000 comedians out of work, assuming you have a day job, don't quit.   You need a tad bit better material.

But, it is humorous, not funny but  a good attempt. 

you are right. We owe everything to Nixon, Bush, and W. 

[Firefighter]

Thanks guys, same here!

[MP]

I'll make it easy for you, although I thought it would be plainly evident. The group to which I refer is the angry, conservative male/female who believes our current President is either a Communist, Muslim, foreign born, America hating, tyrannical, empirical, gay (not that there's anything wrong
[/quote]

Why is it that it seems the moniker "angry" only applies to conservatives?  I hear it all the time.

Yet, on all the news, the "angriest " people I see are the Black Lives Matter, the Bernie Sanders "Give me free crap" crowd, the LGBT group, the left wing anti capitalists in Portland and Seattle, liberals shutting free speech down with protests,  etc.  Those are the ones I see in the streets, tearing things up, wrecking things, rioting, blocking traffic, kill the police liberals.  I do NOT see the conservatives doing that.  I am sure it was not conservatives that tore up, and burned down, Ferguson, MO!  They seemed REALLY ANGRY, they were liberals.  You NEVER see conservatives pulling that crap.