Revenge is sweet!!

[big poppa pump]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

[..]

Faked.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

Not a fan of hunting ?

[Psychotic Bovine]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

[big poppa pump]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

Not a fan of hunting ?

I hunt, but not for sport!

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

It's got nothing to do with the hunter being a woman. I would've called a guy in her shoes a d**k. As far as I am concerned anyone who hunts for sport are f**ktards!

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

Not a fan of hunting ?

I hunt, but not for sport!

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

It's got nothing to do with the hunter being a woman. I would've called a guy in her shoes a d**k. As far as I am concerned anyone who hunts for sport are f**ktards!

Thats fine. I have no problem with your opinion. But I would say I that I have hunted for sport many times. All of the animals I have hunted were not endangered and were highly regulated by Fish and Game. Although it's been a few years since I've hunted I would still do it if given the chance. That said I've had many discussions with people who feel the same as you and I do understand where you are coming from. We just have a difference of opinion about what is ethical hunting.

[big poppa pump]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

Not a fan of hunting ?

I hunt, but not for sport!

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

It's got nothing to do with the hunter being a woman. I would've called a guy in her shoes a d**k. As far as I am concerned anyone who hunts for sport are f**ktards!

Thats fine. I have no problem with your opinion. But I would say I that I have hunted for sport many times. All of the animals I have hunted were not endangered and were highly regulated by Fish and Game. Although it's been a few years since I've hunted I would still do it if given the chance. That said I've had many discussions with people who feel the same as you and I do understand where you are coming from. We just have a difference of opinion about what is ethical hunting.

A difference in opinion has never been an issue for me.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

Not a fan of hunting ?

I hunt, but not for sport!

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

It's got nothing to do with the hunter being a woman. I would've called a guy in her shoes a d**k. As far as I am concerned anyone who hunts for sport are f**ktards!

Thats fine. I have no problem with your opinion. But I would say I that I have hunted for sport many times. All of the animals I have hunted were not endangered and were highly regulated by Fish and Game. Although it's been a few years since I've hunted I would still do it if given the chance. That said I've had many discussions with people who feel the same as you and I do understand where you are coming from. We just have a difference of opinion about what is ethical hunting.

A difference in opinion has never been an issue for me.  

I hear you. I have a huge issue with "canned hunts". In my mind they are not ethical. 

[mike72903]

I used to hunt a little when I was young.  Dont anymore, seems like an uneven match.  Now if a sport hunter would stalk and sneak up on his prey and attempt to take it with a knife that would have my respect for sure.  Seems like sitting in a tree with a powerful weapon waiting for a deer to walk by is more like bush whacking.   

[RP#62]

Katie Couric production?

-RP

[The emperor has no clothes]

Katie Couric production?

-RP

[Jess from VA]

All ethical (legal) hunting is sport (I suppose unless you are starving to death at the time).  

Ethical hunting requires you treat the animal with a degree of respect to ensure a quick (as possible) kill, and that you finish the job asap if your marksmanship failed.  You don't ever take long shots with a high percentage chance of non lethal wounding.

But if you (or others by donation) are not eating the meat, fish, bird (and this often means very hard work lugging it), or taking the hide or using the animal to some legitimate purpose, then I feel it's back to unethical.  Of course dealing with infestation of feral pigs and the like would be an exception.  

I would not want to hunt any big cats, elephants, rhino, giraffe, brown bear, wolf or whales, even if a $10K license made it legal.  I would like to see them in the wild (preferably with a guy like Meathead I can outrun  ).  

[Rams]

Not sure if this footage is real or was staged, but I sure hope the b***h got what she deserved!!!

https://youtu.be/VBa4D9D6Gng

So, women hunters are b***es in your opinion?
nice.

Nope, at least not for me but, I'm not a fan of trophy hunters.  

Edited: With one exception, Deer.   I'd like to see them hunted until they approach the endangered species level.   Hey, there's always an exception.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

All ethical (legal) hunting is sport (I suppose unless you are starving to death at the time).  

Ethical hunting requires you treat the animal with a degree of respect to ensure a quick (as possible) kill, and that you finish the job asap if your marksmanship failed.  You don't ever take long shots with a high percentage chance of non lethal wounding.

But if you (or others by donation) are not eating the meat, fish, bird (and this often means very hard work lugging it), or taking the hide or using the animal to some legitimate purpose, then I feel it's back to unethical.  Of course dealing with infestation of feral pigs and the like would be an exception.  

I would not want to hunt any big cats, elephants, rhino, giraffe, brown bear, wolf or whales, even if a $10K license made it legal.  I would like to see them in the wild (preferably with a guy like Meathead I can outrun  ).  

Hey Now ! I thought we were tight. 

[Gavin_Sons]

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/02/23/zimbabwe-park-to-cull-200-lions-cites-lack-of-hunters/

I'm a big fan of hunting. I do trophy hunt when I dont need much meat. If I need or want meat first deer that comes by gets it. After the doctor from Michigan? Killed that famous lion people are afraid to go hunting for lions. The numbers are getting out of control and they are killing tons of the savanna animals and their numbers are depleting quickly. If they can't get a hold on the lion population there will be no animals in the savanna and the lions will starve. Yes there is poaching, but regulations are put in place to control populations of certain animals.  I dont understa d how this woman is a bitch or if it were a guy how he is a dick for hunting and controling the population. I am against caged hunts if it's 100 acres or 1,000 acres.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Those African animals are seldom endangered by trophy hunters, they're endangered by the native people who frequently live in a degree of poverty we can hardly imagine. Trophy hunting and the money and meat it brings the local people has been about the only successful means of stopping this poaching.

Hunters and their love of the outdoors and wildlife is why we still have abundant wildlife here in the states and hunters are largely the reason why there is still wildlife elsewhere too. Our game laws were brought about by hunters, hunters also championed the Pittman-Robertson act in 1937  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman%E2%80%93Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act which ensures there is funding for the scientific management of our wildlife. No one puts in the money and time to protect wildlife that hunters do.

I've personally harvested somewhere around 50 deer, mostly does, in my lifetime. With the exception of a very few, all fed my family or friends. I've taken them with muzzle-loaders, rifles, bows and handguns, and all have been taken without ever even bending a game law.

Myself, I think paying someone else to kill, field dress, butcher and package all your meat makes it impossible to truly appreciate the interwoven nature of life on this planet. Everyday that you survive on this planet, something dies to make it possible. Even if you're a vegetarian, merely the act of walking across your lawn invariably kills something. The plot of land your house is on and the soybean fields which feed our vegans kill generations of wildlife. No one is above it, no one is outside that circle of life, however much they want to be.

The difference is, hunters (true hunters) rejoice in being part of this tapestry of life.

Personally, I truly love deer. I like to watch them interact with each other, I like to listen to them, and, I like to eat them and sometimes tan their skins. My ride bells are attached to my Valkyrie with leather I tanned from the first deer I killed many years ago. I also have several deer heads on my walls, not because I disrespect them, but because I respect them. I also think our DNR is caving too much to special interests in bringing down the deer population. I know they are dangerous, my wife hit one in her then new car just a mile from our house and pretty well destroyed the car. My truck and the truck before it both have dents from being hit by deer blasting out of the roadside brush and into my truck doors. I come within feet of hitting them on the valk every year and may well be killed by one on a predawn ride to work one day. That's just a risk you take to live & ride in deer country.

Here where I live we have an over abundance of coyotes. I seldom pass up a shot at a coyote even though I don't eat them because of their overabundance. If hunters such as myself didn't do our part to control their population, there would be fewer fawns make it to adulthood, less rabbits, quail, turkeys and other small game animals.

When you consider there were very few deer left Indiana in 1937 when hunters got the Pittman-Robertson act passed I'd say we've done a pretty good job of bringing back our wildlife from the brink of extinction. If allowed to do so, hunting and the dollars it brings to the local people could also still save most species of African game too.

If you really care about wildlife, even if you don't hunt, buy a hunting license and put your money to work scientifically managing wildlife and catching and jailing poachers.

[Gavin_Sons]

http://www.fws.gov/hunting/whatdo.html

[Chrisj CMA]

It's easy these days to find a group of people against this or that.  It comes to a animals we have people more upset about killing animals than they are about killing people.

Hunting is necessary but if we continue to vilify it and all guns there will be a shortage of hunters before any animals that are hunted will be in danger

[Rams]

It's easy these days to find a group of people against this or that.  It comes to a animals we have people more upset about killing animals than they are about killing people.

Hunting is necessary but if we continue to vilify it and all guns there will be a shortage of hunters before any animals that are hunted will be in danger

In my best John Wayne impersonation, Some Folks Need Kill'n.  

Or, was that Clint Eastwood?   Doesn't matter, it's still true.   

[cookiedough]

I think, in my opinion,  the hunting population will continue to decline rapidly in next 10+ years from now.  Not many youngen's growing up hunting anymore like 20+ years ago. 

I say if the animal is not endangered or causing a threat to humans,  then fine with me for the most part, especially if so called trophy hunting brings 1,000's of dollars to the local tribe or village and helps humans live a better life.

Bear baiting is iffy in my eyes though sort of seems not right baiting bear and shooting them right under your tree.  Why not deer baiting being legal then, since all they are is a nuisance and destroys 100's of 1000's of vehicles per year. 

Growing up hunting deer,  I use to get slack from the BIG BUCK ONLY hunters letting does pass up.  NOT me,  I just told them too darn bad,  I paid my license fee,  meat is going in the freezer and I NEVER held off on 'waiting' for that BIG buck to come along.  Even a forked buck was fine with me, but the BIG buck hunters got pissy with me telling me to let it grow up some.  I could care less what they thought and told them all off.     Many a year I shot 3-4 deer in one hunting season if it wasn't for me it was for my dad or brother nearby. 

[Jess from VA]

As suggested above, it should also never be forgotten that hunters are a healthy subset of all gun owners, all of whom should support and exercise their 2d A liberty harmoniously.  Too many times in the past, hunters voted against, or didn't vote at all in important pro/anti gun candidate/issue elections.  Thinking their purely hunting rifles or shotguns would never be affected by incremental gun law prohibitions/regulations....thinking they had no desire for a black rifle or hi-cap auto pistol so why be concerned?  They were also heard to say that they thought the NRA was too radical (in whole or in part). 

Today, I think most hunters are much more pro 2d A in attitude and voting, and we non-hunters should remain strong (lawful) hunting supporters, in theory if not in practice.  Hunters do pay the money to support and contribute greatly to healthy wildlife management.  My point is we all need to stick together.   

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

As suggested above, it should also never be forgotten that hunters are a healthy subset of all gun owners, all of whom should support and exercise their 2d A liberty harmoniously.  Too many times in the past, hunters voted against, or didn't vote at all in important pro/anti gun candidate/issue elections.  Thinking their purely hunting rifles or shotguns would never be affected by incremental gun law prohibitions/regulations....thinking they had no desire for a black rifle or hi-cap auto pistol so why be concerned?  They were also heard to say that they thought the NRA was too radical (in whole or in part). 

Today, I think most hunters are much more pro 2d A in attitude and voting, and we non-hunters should remain strong (lawful) hunting supporters, in theory if not in practice.  Hunters do pay the money to support and contribute greatly to healthy wildlife management.  My point is we all need to stick together.   

 

[Psychotic Bovine]

Those African animals are seldom endangered by trophy hunters, they're endangered by the native people who frequently live in a degree of poverty we can hardly imagine. Trophy hunting and the money and meat it brings the local people has been about the only successful means of stopping this poaching.

Hunters and their love of the outdoors and wildlife is why we still have abundant wildlife here in the states and hunters are largely the reason why there is still wildlife elsewhere too. Our game laws were brought about by hunters, hunters also championed the Pittman-Robertson act in 1937  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman%E2%80%93Robertson_Federal_Aid_in_Wildlife_Restoration_Act which ensures there is funding for the scientific management of our wildlife. No one puts in the money and time to protect wildlife that hunters do.

I've personally harvested somewhere around 50 deer, mostly does, in my lifetime. With the exception of a very few, all fed my family or friends. I've taken them with muzzle-loaders, rifles, bows and handguns, and all have been taken without ever even bending a game law.

Myself, I think paying someone else to kill, field dress, butcher and package all your meat makes it impossible to truly appreciate the interwoven nature of life on this planet. Everyday that you survive on this planet, something dies to make it possible. Even if you're a vegetarian, merely the act of walking across your lawn invariably kills something. The plot of land your house is on and the soybean fields which feed our vegans kill generations of wildlife. No one is above it, no one is outside that circle of life, however much they want to be.

The difference is, hunters (true hunters) rejoice in being part of this tapestry of life.

Personally, I truly love deer. I like to watch them interact with each other, I like to listen to them, and, I like to eat them and sometimes tan their skins. My ride bells are attached to my Valkyrie with leather I tanned from the first deer I killed many years ago. I also have several deer heads on my walls, not because I disrespect them, but because I respect them. I also think our DNR is caving too much to special interests in bringing down the deer population. I know they are dangerous, my wife hit one in her then new car just a mile from our house and pretty well destroyed the car. My truck and the truck before it both have dents from being hit by deer blasting out of the roadside brush and into my truck doors. I come within feet of hitting them on the valk every year and may well be killed by one on a predawn ride to work one day. That's just a risk you take to live & ride in deer country.

Here where I live we have an over abundance of coyotes. I seldom pass up a shot at a coyote even though I don't eat them because of their overabundance. If hunters such as myself didn't do our part to control their population, there would be fewer fawns make it to adulthood, less rabbits, quail, turkeys and other small game animals.

When you consider there were very few deer left Indiana in 1937 when hunters got the Pittman-Robertson act passed I'd say we've done a pretty good job of bringing back our wildlife from the brink of extinction. If allowed to do so, hunting and the dollars it brings to the local people could also still save most species of African game too.

If you really care about wildlife, even if you don't hunt, buy a hunting license and put your money to work scientifically managing wildlife and catching and jailing poachers.

Incredibly well said.  And very good information for those not "in the know" as they say.

[Hooter]

It's easy these days to find a group of people against this or that.  It comes to a animals we have people more upset about killing animals than they are about killing people.

Hunting is necessary but if we continue to vilify it and all guns there will be a shortage of hunters before any animals that are hunted will be in danger

.                               

I'm an avid hunter I was taught at an early age you eat what you kill. I have 385 acres I manage. I have food plots and control growth thru clearing and brush hogging certain parts of the property. We don't shoot does and nothing under 8 point bucks. I don't believe in fenced hunts and I do in fair chase. I also believe in respecting the privilege to hunt. Hunting is a dying sport. (If that's what you wish to call it)

Kids and even adults  aren't hunting to BUSY doing something else. We used to hunt to eat. I enjoy the exercise and watching everything else in the woods that goes on around me. Things the average person never sees. Even the chipmunk looking for food. Its not all about the kill its about being outside, depending on only myself, experiencing nature and if I happen to score that is the bonus plan.

[Gavin_Sons]

but hey, lets bad mouth hunters and say the bitch got what she deserved
Another fine example of misinformed people.

[solo1]

Very good and true responses to a derogatory post.

I agree that hunting IS a sport. For many years I hunted, abiding by the rules of conservation (NOT preservation) and I ate what I harvested.  The enjoyment of being in an outside environment was the main part.  

I do not believe in 'canned hunts', by definition not hunts at all.  I don't really care for trophy hunting but that's just me.

According to history so called Buffalo (Bison) hunters did not hunt for sport.  They hunted for the hides , left the meat to spoil,  and, in the process, decimated the Indian's main source of  meat..

[Gavin_Sons]

trophy hunters will spend years getting the quality of deer up before they take a big deer. of course you have to have a bunch of property to do this properly or have all the neighbors on board with this. We tried this for several years at our property. got the neighbors on board with it but some got trigger happy with a small buck walked by. So now i just take what i need in does and save my buck tag until a big one comes by.

[hubcapsc]

There's a big hunting reserve in Texas that brings "exotic" animals in
to be hunted. They had a large stock of endangered antelope-like things
from Africa that they had bred and cared for, people could pay to come
in and hunt them. The PETA people pitched a fit, and the Texas people
were forced to quit breeding and hunting them. Now there's a lot less of
the endangered antelope-creatures on the planet... good job PETA   

Is the Texas place "canned" hunting?

-Mike

[Gavin_Sons]

There's a big hunting reserve in Texas that brings "exotic" animals in
to be hunted. They had a large stock of endangered antelope-like things
from Africa that they had bred and cared for, people could pay to come
in and hunt them. The PETA people pitched a fit, and the Texas people
were forced to quit breeding and hunting them. Now there's a lot less of
the endangered antelope-creatures on the planet... good job PETA   

Is the Texas place "canned" hunting?

-Mike

yes it is Mike, very much so. I do not like it at all. Whatever happened to fair chase? This is not these animals natural habitat, even though it may be close. They will eventually run out of room to run and be cornered. I know some of the ranches are 10k + acres, but if there is a high fence around the whole thing it is a canned hunt. I'm all for a breeding program for these animals, just dont let anyone hunt them. If you want to hunt african game, go to Africa and hunt them in their habitat, not yours.

[solo1]

I agree, it is canned hunting, no matter the size of the restriction. 

"Bragging rights" seem to go along with this type of hunting, IMO.  Fair chase is the only way to go and feel comfortable as a sportsman., once again, IMO.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I used to hunt a little when I was young.  Dont anymore, seems like an uneven match.  Now if a sport hunter would stalk and sneak up on his prey and attempt to take it with a knife that would have my respect for sure.  Seems like sitting in a tree with a powerful weapon waiting for a deer to walk by is more like bush whacking.   

Hunting is an uneven match. Even with knives as you suggest it would be uneven. But then hunting isn't really a "match". There are many forms of hunting that are not for me. Bear Baiting for black bears has been legal in AK for decades but I always thought it was just a form of killing. Sitting in a stand waiting for a deer to come by would be boring to me, but I don't have a problem with it. For me 99% of the lure of hunting was getting out in nature and enjoying all its grandeur. Probably half of the hunting in my life has been for trophies. All the wolves, foxes, coyotes, bears, Dall sheep and some of the moose, caribou, and deer were for the trophy. In my opinion they were all ethical hunts. I have no problem with anyone that doesn't want to do that, but that doesn't mean they are ethical and I am not.

[Gryphon Rider]

I'm not against hunting for food, fur, or whatever, as long as the prey's population can sustain it and the animals suffer minimally.

The thing I have about trophy hunting is that it can be harmful to the overall population of the prey if the biggest/strongest/healthiest examples are taken as trophies.  The remaining population will not be as big/strong/healthy without the ongoing contribution of the trophy animals to the gene pool.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm not against hunting for food, fur, or whatever, as long as the prey's population can sustain it and the animals suffer minimally.

The thing I have about trophy hunting is that it can be harmful to the overall population of the prey if the biggest/strongest/healthiest examples are taken as trophies.  The remaining population will not be as big/strong/healthy without the ongoing contribution of the trophy animals to the gene pool.

A good stewardship by Fish and Game can easily handle that. As an example, in Alaska there are certain areas that have always produced large Dall Sheep. F&G stepped in decades ago and limited the amount of animals that could be taken in those areas. They have been able to sustain large animals for many, many years. But yes I do agree with uncontrolled management the population will suffer.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I used to hunt a little when I was young.  Dont anymore, seems like an uneven match.  Now if a sport hunter would stalk and sneak up on his prey and attempt to take it with a knife that would have my respect for sure.  Seems like sitting in a tree with a powerful weapon waiting for a deer to walk by is more like bush whacking.  

So... let me see.  The hunter has his rifle, shotgun, muzzle loader, bow, whatever.... and his 5 human senses.
The deer (or whatever animal) knows the terrain, has better ears, sense of smell, is stronger, has weapons (in the case of bear, boar, lions, and other carnivores), has spent it's entire life being predator or prey,  and can easily outrun a human.   The human has only been hunting during hunting seasons and when he was of age to do it.  The hunted animal brings more experience to the game.
I see the hunt as being pretty evenly matched.  In fact, the hunted animal has the upper hand.  If they didn't, than nearly every hunter would always get his animal.  That's just not the case.

[Gavin_Sons]

I used to hunt a little when I was young.  Dont anymore, seems like an uneven match.  Now if a sport hunter would stalk and sneak up on his prey and attempt to take it with a knife that would have my respect for sure.  Seems like sitting in a tree with a powerful weapon waiting for a deer to walk by is more like bush whacking.  

So... let me see.  The hunter has his rifle, shotgun, muzzle loader, bow, whatever.... and his 5 human senses.
The deer (or whatever animal) knows the terrain, has better ears, sense of smell, is stronger, has weapons (in the case of bear, boar, lions, and other carnivores), has spent it's entire life being predator or prey,  and can easily outrun a human.   The human has only been hunting during hunting seasons and when he was of age to do it.  The hunted animal brings more experience to the game.
I see the hunt as being pretty evenly matched.  In fact, the hunted animal has the upper hand.  If they didn't, than nearly every hunter would always get his animal.  That's just not the case.

But you have a gun, says the uninformed liberal. 

[mike72903]

I'm not against hunting for food, fur, or whatever, as long as the prey's population can sustain it and the animals suffer minimally.

The thing I have about trophy hunting is that it can be harmful to the overall population of the prey if the biggest/strongest/healthiest examples are taken as trophies.  The remaining population will not be as big/strong/healthy without the ongoing contribution of the trophy animals to the gene pool.

Well said.  I have no problem with hunting, but it's not a "natural" herd thinning. Hunting does not insure that the strong survive. Nature is a better selector. Left to nature there would be a great balance of life.  Of course, we (humans) can't always wait for nature to take it course when large animals are driven into our neighborhood by overpopulation or distruction of habitat.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm not against hunting for food, fur, or whatever, as long as the prey's population can sustain it and the animals suffer minimally.

The thing I have about trophy hunting is that it can be harmful to the overall population of the prey if the biggest/strongest/healthiest examples are taken as trophies.  The remaining population will not be as big/strong/healthy without the ongoing contribution of the trophy animals to the gene pool.

Well said.  I have no problem with hunting, but it's not a "natural" herd thinning. Hunting does not insure that the strong survive. Nature is a better selector. Left to nature there would be a great balance of life.  Of course, we (humans) can't always wait for nature to take it course when large animals are driven into our neighborhood by overpopulation or distruction of habitat.

Lets not forget that we as humans are part of nature. Leaving animals to themselves doesn't always result in a great balance of life. There are many areas where moose might have been wiped out do to wolve predation. We as humans have an impact on nature and always will. The trick is to make it a smart and informed impact. 

[Gavin_Sons]

I'm not against hunting for food, fur, or whatever, as long as the prey's population can sustain it and the animals suffer minimally.

The thing I have about trophy hunting is that it can be harmful to the overall population of the prey if the biggest/strongest/healthiest examples are taken as trophies.  The remaining population will not be as big/strong/healthy without the ongoing contribution of the trophy animals to the gene pool.

Well said.  I have no problem with hunting, but it's not a "natural" herd thinning. Hunting does not insure that the strong survive. Nature is a better selector. Left to nature there would be a great balance of life.  Of course, we (humans) can't always wait for nature to take it course when large animals are driven into our neighborhood by overpopulation or distruction of habitat.

Lets not forget that we as humans are part of nature. Leaving animals to themselves doesn't always result in a great balance of life. There are many areas where moose might have been wiped out do to wolve predation. We as humans have an impact on nature and always will. The trick is to make it a smart and informed impact. 

  i guess some would rather not hunt the animals to control the population but let them run rampant so they can kill them with their cars and motorcycles. Think of that next time you want to bad mouth a hunter. That very hunter might have killed an animal that would have been in your path. 

[JimmyG]

So, if a Zombie apocalypse occurs, will it be ethical to kill them by any means possible? Will  there be a liberal uprising to,"save the zombies"? Just asking

[Gavin_Sons]

So, if a Zombie apocalypse occurs, will it be ethical to kill them by any means possible? Will  there be a liberal uprising to,"save the zombies"? Just asking

there probably will be Jimmy, might be unethical to kill such a creature. The hardest part about a zombie apocalypse is pretending i'm not excited about it.