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If you live in the Orlando area and are a blood donor there's an appeal for blood. Senator Rubio at a press conference said the shooter was an American whose Afghani parents immigrated to the USA. This is the worst terrorist attack on American soil since the bastards destroyed the World Trade Center. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=orlando+shooter&ia=news
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Being reported that Mateen [ shooter] was a security guard at one time and apparently hated gays. They are also thinking he may have radical muslim tendencies.
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As tragic as it is, "America's worst mass shooting" should not be the headline. Not even close.
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As tragic as it is, "America's worst mass shooting" should not be the headline. Not even close. Hmmm, I can't think of one worse.
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As tragic as it is, "America's worst mass shooting" should not be the headline. Not even close. Are you referring to the Civil War ?
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After Linclon's war. Worse mass shooting in the U.S. since that war. Innocent men, women, children in their mothers arms. Little kids lured out of hiding with the promise of being spared, then killed mercilessly.
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After Linclon's war. Worse mass shooting in the U.S. since that war. Innocent men, women, children in their mothers arms. Little kids lured out of hiding with the promise of being spared, then killed mercilessly.
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https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/12/orlando-night-club-attack-by-known-wolf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/Islam is a "death cult" that came ~600 years after Christianity. It was founded by a violent child molester. Adherents to Islam are INCOMPATIBLE will ALL OTHER PEOPLES! Islamic adherents DO NOT INTEGRATE, but CAUSE CHAOS IN THE HOST COUNTRY LIKE A CANCER. If a Muslim will not personally kill you, they will not object if a more "devout" Muslim does. Do not be fooled if they act "friendly" -- deception to "non-believers" is part of the "death cult". Deception is very clearly described in the Qu'ran! Muslims should not be allowed to reside in this country AT ALL! They WILL NOT alert authorities even if they know of impending attacks...they WILL NOT alert authorities if they know a friend, family member or neighbor that is or has been radicalized! They DO NOT assimilate! They are treacherous!
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After Linclon's war. Worse mass shooting in the U.S. since that war. Innocent men, women, children in their mothers arms. Little kids lured out of hiding with the promise of being spared, then killed mercilessly.
No doubt about it. "War is Hell" Not talking about any war, mass murder. Worst senseless shooting and mass murder in U.S history. Today's tragedy is not it, not by a long shot. The news media just want to make news instead by reporting it as the worst ever was.
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After Linclon's war. Worse mass shooting in the U.S. since that war. Innocent men, women, children in their mothers arms. Little kids lured out of hiding with the promise of being spared, then killed mercilessly.
When, where and how many ?
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Some of you people know who Hal Lindsey is, Now I ask you to look at this video of his, from the beginning to 7:20. Look at it in a logical sense rather than a religious frame of mind. Listen to the explanation to the timeline of that book of the Muslim scholar. Don't have to believe it, just think about it, and think about what happened in Florida, the incidents that happened in the near past. Think about the things that have popped up in your area, that may seem out of place to you. Don't have to believe it, just think about it! http://www.hallindsey.com/videos/hal-lindsey-report-632016/483/
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No doubt about it. "War is Hell" Not talking about any war, mass murder. Worst senseless shooting and mass murder in U.S history. Today's tragedy is not it, not by a long shot. The news media just want to make news instead by reporting it as the worst ever was. I, too, would like to learn about this mass murder, you speak of.
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After Linclon's war. Worse mass shooting in the U.S. since that war. Innocent men, women, children in their mothers arms. Little kids lured out of hiding with the promise of being spared, then killed mercilessly.
No doubt about it. "War is Hell" Not talking about any war, mass murder. Worst senseless shooting and mass murder in U.S history. Today's tragedy is not it, not by a long shot. The news media just want to make news instead by reporting it as the worst ever was. I, too, would like to learn about this mass murder, you speak of. That is all I was hoping for. History is important. It should not be forgotten, changed, destroyed, or manufactured for sensationalism. Wounded Knee Massacre, 1890. All should read about it, study it, and think about it. 20 Federal soldiers awarded medals for it. Should today's killer be awarded the notoriety for a record number killed in a mass shooting, so the next nut can try to achieve greater notoriety? Irresponsible reporting and every news outlet eats it up and spews it to the world.
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I didn't think about Wounded Knee. It was the military and apparently started over a disagreement or misunderstanding over giving up a rifle if I remember correctly. It shouldn't have happened and was later considered a massacre and rightly so. A number of soldiers were awarded the CMH.
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Florida is mostly a 2nd Amendment friendly state.
However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
I haven't seen anything about his politics. Where did you see that ?
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
I haven't seen anything about his politics. Where did you see that ? I have not either other than his father ran for a political position in Afganistan and was a taliban supporter.
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
I haven't seen anything about his politics. Where did you see that ? I have not either other than his father ran for a political position in Afganistan and was a taliban supporter. The article I read about his dad makes him seem pretty odd. If I understand it correctly he lived in Florida, did a TV show in California in an Afghani dialect that was not the dialect of the people he was speaking to. He said supportive things about the Taliban and wanted to be an Afghani President.
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the UN dictator aka obumer has much blood on his hands. this is the world elitists plans cause chaos, masses of people will scream for protection and there by all American rights will go away to have protection. The bible tells us this will all backfire on the elitist for the anti-christ one world leader is a muslim. We are living in the end times. and hildemon is part of the UN take over also. If trump wins he will be told what to do or else. if either win we will have national ID cards/chips under skin etc., trump already alluded to this in his early speeches, for how will all illegal imigrates be identified vs Americans? u will need ID. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/12/afghanistan-migration-surging-america-99-support-sharia-law/Between 2001 and 2013, the U.S. permanently resettled nearly 30,000 Afghan migrants on green cards. According to Pew, nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) support sharia law as official law. As legal immigrants, these migrants will be granted lifetime resettlement privileges will be given automatic work permits, welfare access, and the ability to become voting citizens. Between 2001 and 2013, the United States permanently resettled 1.5 million Muslim immigrants throughout the United States. In the next five years, without changes to our autopilot visa dispensations, the U.S. will permanently resettle a Muslim population larger than the entire population of Washington D.C. Immigration from the Middle East is on the rise. Based on 2014 data–the most recent available data from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)– the number of green cards issued to Middle Eastern countries increased by 32 percent. The number of green cards issued to Afghan migrants increased by 379 percent in the course of that single year. Hillary Clinton has made clear that under a Clinton Presidency, these numbers will grow substantially higher. Based on the minimum numbers Clinton has put forth thus far, the U.S. will resettle 730,000 permanent migrants from the Muslim world during her first term alone. According to NBC, the suspect’s family says the terror attack may have been motivated Mateen’s hatred for the LGBT community. Mateen’s father says his son was angry over the sight of two men kissing.
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
I haven't seen anything about his politics. Where did you see that ? http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/orlando_gay_nightclub_shooter_was_a_registered_democrat.html
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My prayers to those who have suffered today.
Also a big Thank You, to those I just saw on the news standing in lines waiting to donate blood, in Orlando.
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
I haven't seen anything about his politics. Where did you see that ? http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/orlando_gay_nightclub_shooter_was_a_registered_democrat.htmlDid you snopes that? Everyone knows it's not true unless snopes says it is. 
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Well we now know that the killer shouted Allah Akbar during the shooting and pledged his allegiance to ISIS. Obama never even mentioned that during his speech and instead blames the guns yet again. When will he wake up? Do you suppose the LGBT will now spew out their hate for muslims like the do for christians?
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Well we now know that the killer shouted Allah Akbar during the shooting and pledged his allegiance to ISIS. Obama never even mentioned that during his speech and instead blames the guns yet again. When will he wake up?
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So he has a problem with gays, selects a target group supposedly far from his home, 150 miles according to one report, scouts it out, and attacks a group situation where he know he is likely to find sheepels who will respond with the same predictable behavior as a real herd of sheep. A previous post indicated by the attachment that he had come to the feds attention in two consecutive years. It appears that this was not enough to be grounds to put him on a denial list for purchase of firearms. He had to have made comments on some obscure or not so obscure radically connected website that should have caused this. I wonder when he purchased the arms used in this crime. Something smells foul about this whole situation. Why was he not on a watch list? These situations occur far too often, and then there is outcry from those with a clearly stated agenda. I will now be on a list because I suspect there is something more to this story associated with a stated goal to forward the wishes of the new order. What happened in Orlando was murder, pure and simple. Omission of follow up of any previously recorded concerns is complicity by omission. It will be interesting to see what will be brought out of this outrage.
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However, even with a permit you can't carry in a restaurant or club that sells alcohol. At least you couldn't last year when I was there. I assume this terrorist knew that and took advantage of it. As always, anti-gun laws hurt the innocent and enable killers.
If the next president kills our 2nd Amendment rights citizens won't be safe anywhere.
So lets see, this killer was a Muslim & a registered Democrat. Now, lets sit back and wait on the president and his minions to blame it on the NRA, Republicans, Christians and guns.
And I expect there was a whole lot of that yesterday, today and beyond. I turned off the tv when a fox reporter put the camera and mic on a 300 lbs female florida state senator ( nice how the camera did not pick up her walmart cart loaded with candy bars ) spewing on about gun laws instead of the hatred this lunatic had. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/13/former-co-worker-says-orlando-gunman-was-unhinged-and-unstable-went-on-racist-misogynistic-rants.html?intcmp=hpbt1Yes this fanatic was interviewed by FBI, twice I believe. A security co worker had went to bosses and others about this guy who constantly spewed racist hatred towards gays, blacks, women and brought his prayer rug to work with him daily. In the end they would not fire him because that religion of peace and the pc culture that is destroying this country piece by piece won out. The interviewed co worker was harrassed in various forms and he made the smart move by leaving.
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No doubt about it. "War is Hell" Not talking about any war, mass murder. Worst senseless shooting and mass murder in U.S history. Today's tragedy is not it, not by a long shot. The news media just want to make news instead by reporting it as the worst ever was. Well maybe. But I think you are arguing semantics. Massacre by Government forces vs. a mass killing by individuals. There is not much sense in either, but I doubt there is a concerted effort by the media to make news. It's big enough news already.
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How can I say that...because the parents are immigrants from Afghanistan and have ties to terrorism. Trump would have booted them a long time ago. The shooter was under FBI investigation twice, they knew he supported ISIS. Trump would not have looked the other way.
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