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« on: July 14, 2016, 12:57:07 AM »

I updated to Windows 10.  I hate it and my laptop runs like crap ever since.

Is there a way to undo this and go back to 7?  I tried system restore, but apparently when you update it wipes out all previous restore points.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2016, 02:54:57 AM »

yes there is a way but i forget how at the moment,,,BRB
http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-to-uninstall-windows-10-and-downgrade-to-windows-7-or-8.1/

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/instantanswers/1235b5b0-bf94-4b77-9cbd-1c1a8337070c/going-back-to-windows-7-or-windows-8.1

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-ways-to-downgrade-windows-10/
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2016, 03:28:09 AM »

My wife's laptop did it in it's own. So far she likes it. Apparently it takes a bit of getting used to. She says everything is still there, you just have to learn where.....

I've been trying to download it onto mine, but it just hangs. Won't even begin.

Maybe I should wait. The free download ends July 29. Hopefully Win 7 won't be affected down the road.

Good luck.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2016, 03:32:07 AM »

 l did the same but when the restored version of Win7 was once more on the system , Win10 kept trying to re-install. I ended up formating the HDD and doing a clean install of Win7. Back up everything you want to save now is my best advise. And I am only an educated termite, no geek.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2016, 04:12:42 AM »

I put 10 on a laptop and it did slow that down also but I did a few things that really helped. First stop all the privacy stuff from reporting. Windows 10 turns on every conceivable thing it can from privacy to any program it thinks you will need along with advertising its a load of garbage. Once I stopped everything except what I use it was comparable to 7. Windows 10 was made for tablet, touch screen, computers, phones, and any other device it may be put into. So it loads all that and cannot just load the stuff for that one thing it was installed on. Not to mention loading Bluetooth and so much more garbage. I for security turn off the cam and microphone also because it also takes system resources.
  
 The other thing is turn off any unnecessary programs from loading automatically. I have C Cleaner and any program I couldn't turn off in services or task manager, in the menu of cc under tools>startup you can see other programs that start automatically. Except for a few I stop most from starting. If you want them you can just click the program and it will start normally when you need it. If you go to the task manager and look at how many programs you have loaded it may be something like 60 or so, but the less the better and usually around 40 seems not to slow computers down. In the services menu is where you can actually turn off the programs from starting or even decide delayed start. Control panel>administrative tools> services These small steps made a major difference and brought it very close to 7 in speed. I would also uninstall programs you dont need. Once you do this then you are left with finding and making short cuts to the things you use the most since in 10 they have decided for some foolish reason to change the order of things. I decided to leave 10 on the laptop after going through this and dont mind it except when something is not in the place I wanted it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 06:14:14 AM »

I had the same issues, but after installation, it offered an option to uninstall 10 & restore 7. I did that, and so far it's been OK...
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2016, 07:39:49 AM »

It took me about a week to beat Windows 10 into submission and into a state where I didn't hate it...

However, if you're just wnating to go back, click the Start menu and select Settings.
From there click the "Update & Security" link.
On the left of that window select "Recovery"
If it's been less than a month since you upgraded, you SHOULD have a "Go back to Windows 7" option there.

After a month or so Windows 10 whacks the option to save space.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2016, 07:57:55 AM »

Strangely enough, when I first installed 7 I really didn't like it over XP but over time I found it to be quite good. More recently, W10 has come into being and again I was tempted to install it but heard a lot of comments against it. That made me hesitant to even consider it. My wife's grandson and wife visited us a few months back and since he's an IT guy working in D.C., I picked his brain a bit about installing 10. In the end I went with the install, it does have a learning curve but after using 7 I found 10 easier to work through. It does have a lot of stuff start up and I killed a lot of that. First thing I did was left click the Start(lower left) and got rid of most of those boxes showing various programs at startup. Just right click and "unpin" from Start. I now have just one box showing....the weather. I killed a number of other stuff from startup and the system seems to have sped up considerably. I still get a "freeze" once in a while, not sure why or what is causing it but using Task Mgr. will kill the operating program and I can start over. Not always to my liking but often the only recourse. When my wife fusses about the freezing, I tell it her due to all the grandkid's pictures we have loaded, causes a system overload. I don't think she believes me but since she's still afraid the 'puter will blow up if she hits the wrong key, I'm sticking to my story.  angel
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 09:35:00 AM »

It took me about a week to beat Windows 10 into submission and into a state where I didn't hate it...

However, if you're just wnating to go back, click the Start menu and select Settings.
From there click the "Update & Security" link.
On the left of that window select "Recovery"
If it's been less than a month since you upgraded, you SHOULD have a "Go back to Windows 7" option there.

After a month or so Windows 10 whacks the option to save space.


Been more that a month, no longer available.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2016, 09:39:03 AM »

I'm not really concerned with usability and finding things, I can figure that out.  My concern really is that the computer runs like crap.  Sometimes it won't even start up.  I have to try several times to get started.  And it crashes without warning occasionally.   
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2016, 09:44:09 AM »


Time for Fedora  cooldude

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2016, 09:50:47 AM »

https://www.komando.com/tips/362988/how-to-go-back-to-an-older-version-after-updating-to-windows-10

Connie,
If it has been less than 30 days since you've made the switch, take a look at the link above or any article Kim has written about Windows 10

Good luck!
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2016, 10:12:42 AM »

You'd need to backup any data and would need to re-acquire and install any programs you've installed, but might be worth seeing if you can find/acquire a factory reset option for your laptop. You might can contact the manufacturer and see if they'll see you factory reset media, or there might be a factory reset partition on your hard drive you can use to wipe everything out and put the machine back to how it was the day you bought it.

An extreme measure, but it might be an option.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2016, 10:13:37 AM »


Time for Fedora  cooldude

-Mike

Or Ubuntu, might be a better option for someone freshly moving from Windows...

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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2016, 10:45:02 AM »

Fedora?  Ubuntu? 
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2016, 10:52:24 AM »

Fedora?  Ubuntu? 

Linux distributions that are aimed at desktop usage.

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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2016, 12:51:31 PM »

i tried and liked ubunto but i cannot get drivers for my scanner and that puts a hold on linux right now
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2016, 01:10:37 PM »

i tried and liked ubunto but i cannot get drivers for my scanner and that puts a hold on linux right now


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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2016, 01:21:50 PM »

-Mike "anybody got a picture of Bill Gates doing that? "


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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2016, 04:12:15 PM »

When it doesn't boot up what screen does it get to?

You can also go to event viewer and see what errors windows is logging.

When you bought the laptop there should have been a system restore disc that came with it. If you still have it or can find it you may be able to use that to go back to windows 7. By having the computer you have a license to have Windows 7 so you could download a copy of 7 then reformat the hard drive and use your license number.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2016, 05:53:20 PM »


By having the computer you have a license to have Windows 7

Oh no, there's some whacky loophole (that's my take on it) that computer
vendors use to sell computers with windows 7 loaded, but windows 8 licenses.
My wife's laptop came that way. And the license key isn't a number on a
decal on the computer, it is some encrypted goo in the bios...

-Mike "or something like that..."
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2016, 06:32:06 PM »


By having the computer you have a license to have Windows 7

Oh no, there's some whacky loophole (that's my take on it) that computer
vendors use to sell computers with windows 7 loaded, but windows 8 licenses.
My wife's laptop came that way. And the license key isn't a number on a
decal on the computer, it is some encrypted goo in the bios...

-Mike "or something like that..."

You can use some free programs that will tell you the key number even if you dont have a disc.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2016, 07:08:13 PM »

I do have the product code from Win 7.  I really don't want to reset back to factory, too many expensive programs installed.  I got one error message yesterday that said something about not enough memory.  I have 6 GB of RAM now, I'm going to try increasing that, before taking more drastic measures.  (Thx Serk).
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2016, 07:15:12 PM »

I'm going to try increasing that, before taking more drastic measures.  (Thx Serk).

But remember, it was only my idea if it works! Wink
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2016, 08:10:16 PM »

My wife's laptop did it in it's own. So far she likes it. Apparently it takes a bit of getting used to. She says everything is still there, you just have to learn where.....

I've been trying to download it onto mine, but it just hangs. Won't even begin.

Maybe I should wait. The free download ends July 29. Hopefully Win 7 won't be affected down the road.

Good luck.

I've tried for a couple months to get it to install on my desktop.  Finally gave up. 

I'm not really concerned with usability and finding things, I can figure that out.  My concern really is that the computer runs like crap.  Sometimes it won't even start up.  I have to try several times to get started.  And it crashes without warning occasionally.   

Sometimes starting over with new works better for me. 

Dell has a nice little 11" laptop with 10 already on it that I'm thinking of buying.  It's only $170 something brand new. 

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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2016, 08:18:05 PM »

Sometimes starting over with new works better for me. 

I'm with you on that.  If only I didn't have to replace all the software.  But, I think I would just get a new one, before I would send this one back to square one.
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2016, 10:59:35 PM »

...  I have 6 GB of RAM now, I'm going to try increasing that, before taking more drastic measures.  (Thx Serk).

More memory sounds like a good approach although 6 gig seems like plenty.  Windows 10 itself itself if you can manage the transition won't be a bad change.

How old is the machine?  If more than a few years old it is time anyway.
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