I Doubt we would see this in the US.

[MP]

I just watched a video, wish I hadn't - didn't know what the content was, of a woman being forced to kneel in the street. She's surrounded by big brave men with guns in ISIS uniform. She's in Muslim attire with her face revealed.

The main guy is ranting in Arabic for a couple of minutes.

Then his right hand man pulls out a revolver and shoots the woman in the top of the head. DEAD.

The big brave men with guns start yelling Alu Akhbar.

I'd be willing to feed the shooter live to some starving pigs.

Saw that too, from Joe.

The Religion of Peace.  And, the Dems attack Repubs for being anti woman! LOL. What a crock.

I know of no way to deal with what happened, other than wipe them out.  How do we deal with a people who execute women, for merely having their face exposed?  You will NOT convince them otherwise, as they believe their Religion, Muslim, demands this of them?  Hard to change minds like this.

The Democrats believe if we give them jobs, let more into the US, and stop talking about these atrocities, they will change their ways.

I do not believe they will.  I believe they will think, correctly, that they are winning, and do it even more!

I wish just "loving" them more would fix it.  It will not.

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I just watched a video, wish I hadn't - didn't know what the content was, of a woman being forced to kneel in the street. She's surrounded by big brave men with guns in ISIS uniform. She's in Muslim attire with her face revealed.

The main guy is ranting in Arabic for a couple of minutes.

Then his right hand man pulls out a revolver and shoots the woman in the top of the head. DEAD.

The big brave men with guns start yelling Alu Akhbar.

I'd be willing to feed the shooter live to some starving pigs.

Saw that too, from Joe.

The Religion of Peace.  And, the Dems attack Repubs for being anti woman! LOL. What a crock.

I know of no way to deal with what happened, other than wipe them out.  How do we deal with a people who execute women, for merely having their face exposed?  You will NOT convince them otherwise, as they believe their Religion, Muslim, demands this of them?  Hard to change minds like this.

The Democrats believe if we give them jobs, let more into the US, and stop talking about these atrocities, they will change their ways.

I do not believe they will.  I believe they will think, correctly, that they are winning, and do it even more!

I wish just "loving" them more would fix it.  It will not.

Love them to death? Soon I hope. Is love spelt .45 or .357 or 9mm?

[Bighead]

Stocking up on  more ammo every day

[Serk]

Honestly I doubt the veracity of this, it sounds like the kind of thing someone claims they heard but it's interesting nonetheless... Making the rounds on social media, supposedly a WWII vet overhears someone lamenting in relation to the current situation that you "can't bomb an ideology."

"The hell you can't! Because we did it. These Muslims are no different than the (Imperial) Japanese. The Japs has their suicide bombers too. And we stopped them.

What it takes is a resolve and will to use a level of brutality and violence that your generation can't stomach. And until you can, this crap won't stop.

It took us on the beaches, with bullets, clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like LeMay burning down their cities killing people by the tens of thousands. And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it.

But if that was what it took to win we were willing to do it.

Until you are willing to do the same... well I hope you enjoy this crap, because it ain't going to stop."

[Willow]

Honestly I doubt the veracity of this, it sounds like the kind of thing someone claims they heard but it's interesting nonetheless... Making the rounds on social media, supposedly a WWII vet overhears someone lamenting in relation to the current situation that you "can't bomb an ideology."

"The hell you can't! Because we did it. These Muslims are no different than the (Imperial) Japanese. The Japs has their suicide bombers too. And we stopped them.

What it takes is a resolve and will to use a level of brutality and violence that your generation can't stomach. And until you can, this crap won't stop.

It took us on the beaches, with bullets, clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like LeMay burning down their cities killing people by the tens of thousands. And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it.

But if that was what it took to win we were willing to do it.

Until you are willing to do the same... well I hope you enjoy this crap, because it ain't going to stop."

There is a problem with the comparison.

The kamakazis continued until the Japanese government entered cease fire and surrender talks.  They ceased with the Japanese surrender because they were devoted to a government at war as opposed to a religion promising afterlife rewards.  The Japanese imperialist suicide pilots were very different from the Islamic terrorist suicide bombers.

The reference to mixing the terrorist bodies with swine I'm not sure makes any sense.  I think the supposed belief in an impact on their eternal reward is some sort of old wives' tale.  I'd like to see some believable confirmation.

The reason terrorism works is that reports of incidents (media, word of mouth?) makes them seem much more wide spread and more likely than they actually are.

I don't know the answer.  We are dealing with devoted zealots driven by a belief we don't fully understand.  Part of the answer is certainly the death of anyone who murders or plans to murder for terrorism.  I'm sure bombing any place where organized training or arming of terrorists takes place will help.

It's ironic that our insistence that freedom of religion includes those who have goals of our deaths and defeat is ultimately our weakness.  

[Jess from VA]

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. Matthew 5:38-39 NKJV


Jesus often spoke in parables.

While his words here are not a parable I do believe that he was using these words to make a point.

The point being that if someone is doing something that really doesn't harm you, let it slide (i.e. Turn the other cheek).

I don't believe that this was meant to imply that we were to stand by and do nothing if someone is trying to either take our life or do serious bodily harm to us.

Terrorists are the most vile and evil beings upon the earth, their actions are so evil that the only explanation is that they are under the direct control of Satan himself.

You aren't going to reform someone who has regressed this far, the only viable option is to kill them.

While it would feel very good to bring about their demise in the most painful and denigrating way possible, that doesn't make it right.

Besides, dead is dead!

And it doesn't get anymore final than that.

ALL terrorists need to be killed period, and they need to be killed when possible before they take innocent lives.

I believe that simply being a member of an organization such as ISIS is reason enough to be executed.

We should execute them by the most expediate means available which pretty much precludes torture.

I do believe that once we have executed them we should dispose of their body in a manner that according to their religious beliefs prevents them from passing into the afterlife.

Doing this and making it known just might reduce the number of them that are willing to die for their beliefs.  

I agree completely Mike.     (as long as the procedure with their dead bodies to make them heaven-proof doesn't arise to some gruesome circus event)

I would happily napalm them (even a tactical nuke, if we could limit innocent loss of life), but we must not torture people to death (maybe for information, but not to death), lest we get down to their level and thereby act to legitimize their horrible behavior.  Killing them efficiently (and in large numbers) will suffice.

And BTW, in the criminal law (or moral code), trying to pick the very worst crimes or criminals is a waste of time.  Instead, you draw a line in the criminal law, and anyone who steps over should hang.  Lots of crimes are worthy of death.

[Skinhead]

Not saying it would, but if doing this would discourage some percentage of potential terrorists from carrying out their plans, then would you be in favor of it?

I mean, if feeding the carcass of already dead terrorists to pigs saves the life of just one child, isn't it something we should at least TRY?

I have no problem with killing . But I sure don't want it to be some spectator event.

Serk, you should have cited a reference of the original utter-er(?) of your statement, I think it's source was lost on my brother. 

And Meathead, it surprises me that you have no problem with killing, I guess I don't when it is deserved as retribution, but in general I'm agin it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not saying it would, but if doing this would discourage some percentage of potential terrorists from carrying out their plans, then would you be in favor of it?

I mean, if feeding the carcass of already dead terrorists to pigs saves the life of just one child, isn't it something we should at least TRY?

I have no problem with killing . But I sure don't want it to be some spectator event.

Serk, you should have cited a reference of the original utter-er(?) of your statement, I think it's source was lost on my brother. 

And Meathead, it surprises me that you have no problem with killing, I guess I don't when it is deserved as retribution, but in general I'm agin it.

Yeah I guess I didn't state that very well did I ? I have no problem killing terrorists, murderers, child molesters, people we are at war with. But I don't want it to become a TV show.

[Skinhead]

Not saying it would, but if doing this would discourage some percentage of potential terrorists from carrying out their plans, then would you be in favor of it?

I mean, if feeding the carcass of already dead terrorists to pigs saves the life of just one child, isn't it something we should at least TRY?

I have no problem with killing . But I sure don't want it to be some spectator event.

Serk, you should have cited a reference of the original utter-er(?) of your statement, I think it's source was lost on my brother. 

And Meathead, it surprises me that you have no problem with killing, I guess I don't when it is deserved as retribution, but in general I'm agin it.

Yeah I guess I didn't state that very well did I ? I have no problem killing terrorists, murderers, child molesters, people we are at war with. But I don't want it to become a TV show.

I understand It's happened to me many times, YOU know what You meant, and that's what you thought you wrote, but on re-reading or when it is read by others, it is very different than your thought.  All part of the joy of arguing discussing via the written word.  I wish I had Willow's grasp of the written word, (and that I had paid more attention in English class).

[The emperor has no clothes]

I hated English class. Well I disliked it immensely. And it does seem to show in the way I write.  Willow does have a good grasp of the written word. But if I could emulate someone's writing, it would be DDT's. I love how he can tell a story. 

[Skinhead]

I hated English class. Well I disliked it immensely. And it does seem to show in the way I write.  Willow does have a good grasp of the written word. But if I could emulate someone's writing, it would be DDT's. I love how he can tell a story. 

Couldn't agree more.  ( I thought I'd never say that to you   )

[The emperor has no clothes]

I hated English class. Well I disliked it immensely. And it does seem to show in the way I write.  Willow does have a good grasp of the written word. But if I could emulate someone's writing, it would be DDT's. I love how he can tell a story. 

Couldn't agree more.  ( I thought I'd never say that to you   )

These are strange times we live in.