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Interesting pick?
Kinda made the socialist side of the Demo party - ill.
Interesting that she picked a former governor of the state where the current governor wanted felons to vote (court said NO).
Kaine is a somewhat typical Demo liberal though the MSM will probably present him as more conservative than he really is or ever has been.
I know nothing bad about Kaine except his gun control record (he is for) and he makes bad choices for running mates and political parties. If he ever really wanted to be president he should have told Hillary NO.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 07:42:09 AM » |
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Kaine has a 0% rating from the NRA.
All I need to know.
Oh, and he has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 08:10:52 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 09:38:14 AM » |
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Why was there no talk of running Bill as her VP?  That would have got the media all excited. The interns too. |
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Heard on the news this morning (I don't remember which network it was) that he was investigated for $160,000 worth of gifts while serving as governor (I think he was governor at the time, honestly wasn't paying a whole lot of attention.) but, that those gifts were determined to be "legal".
If that investigation was as clean as the recent email scandal done on Hilary, then I have no doubts it was rigged from the beginning. But, I don't know much about him. Based on everything else the "media" has done, I can only believe Hilary and now Kaine will be treated with kit gloves.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 12:12:40 PM » |
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Why was there no talk of running Bill as her VP? That would have got the media all excited. The interns too. He'll be too busy, she said he would be running the economy so between that and chasing skirts he would be stretched too thin be VP too. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 12:56:58 PM » |
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Why was there no talk of running Bill as her VP? That would have got the media all excited. The interns too. He'll be too busy, she said he would be running the economy so between that and chasing skirts he would be stretched too thin be VP too. John, Not to belittle old guys but, I doubt he'll have enough energy to run the economy after chasing all the skirts. A man has to have his priorities ya know. He's demonstrated his previously. Then again, if I was married to Hilary........... No, let's not even think about such a nightmare..........  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2016, 05:12:21 PM » |
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Interesting pick?
Kinda made the socialist side of the Demo party - ill.
Interesting that she picked a former governor of the state where the current governor wanted felons to vote (court said NO).
Kaine is a somewhat typical Demo liberal though the MSM will probably present him as more conservative than he really is or ever has been.
I know nothing bad about Kaine except his gun control record (he is for) and he makes bad choices for running mates and political parties. If he ever really wanted to be president he should have told Hillary NO.
Find the choice of Kaine rather interesting. I had anticipated a choice that would be a much more dynamic one. A woman, minority, a major Democrat politician perhaps. Kaine is kind of under the radar and a stunningly mundane pick record wise. Which is ok. I just don't know what kind of political leverage this guy can bring to enhance the ticket. But it leads me to wonder how many folks quietly turned her down that she decided to finally go with this guy. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2016, 05:47:34 PM » |
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But it leads me to wonder how many folks quietly turned her down that she decided to finally go with this guy.
Watch and see how many high level Democrats mysteriously commit suicide, are attacked and murdered on the streets, have the brakes fail on their cars or die in other mysterious ways in the next few weeks and you'll have a clue as to how many...  |
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 05:22:55 AM » |
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I'm not sure how that would work. I don't believe that Scalia was a Democrat.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 06:15:27 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 08:49:57 AM » |
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Tim Kaine is a former City Councilman, Mayor of Richmond, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, and Senator. He was also head of the DNC from 2009-2011. He has never lost an election. He is a devout Catholic that did missionary work in Honduras, and speaks fluent Spanish.
He isn't a dynamic speaker, but he is a good VP choice for Hillary. He will likely help carry VA for Hillary. He has no skeletons in his closet, and he is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He has both executive and legislative experience, and is capable of stepping into the Presidency if necessary.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 09:12:18 AM » |
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Tim Kaine is a former City Councilman, Mayor of Richmond, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, and Senator. He was also head of the DNC from 2009-2011. He has never lost an election. He is a devout Catholic that did missionary work in Honduras, and speaks fluent Spanish.
He isn't a dynamic speaker, but he is a good VP choice for Hillary. He will likely help carry VA for Hillary. He has no skeletons in his closet, and he is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He has both executive and legislative experience, and is capable of stepping into the Presidency if necessary.
Daddie O, where have you been? Haven't seen you on the board for a while. Re. Tim Kaine, I hope he can bring a degree of quiet stability to her and her campaign, seems like the man that could do it, a bit like Trump's pick of Pence for his VP. Hopefully the VP's can slow down the mouth of the main candidates. Over the years, I've noticed more than once the VP pick seemed like a better POTUS candidate than the actual candidate. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 10:29:13 AM » |
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Daddie O, where have you been? Haven't seen you on the board for a while.
Re. Tim Kaine, I hope he can bring a degree of quiet stability to her and her campaign, seems like the man that could do it, a bit like Trump's pick of Pence for his VP. Hopefully the VP's can slow down the mouth of the main candidates. Over the years, I've noticed more than once the VP pick seemed like a better POTUS candidate than the actual candidate.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2016, 10:56:54 AM » |
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He has no skeletons in his closet, and he is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He has both executive and legislative experience, and is capable of stepping into the Presidency if necessary.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2016, 11:22:04 AM » |
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With Hillary's age, injuries, alcoholism and now looking like she's having seizures, her pick as VP has a little more importance than is normal, as it's looking like there's a higher than normal chance her VP will need to take over if worst comes to worst and she's elected...  |
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T He is a devout Catholic
Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2016, 11:46:48 AM » |
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Tim Kaine is a former City Councilman, Mayor of Richmond, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, and Senator. He was also head of the DNC from 2009-2011. He has never lost an election. He is a devout Catholic that did missionary work in Honduras, and speaks fluent Spanish.
He isn't a dynamic speaker, but he is a good VP choice for Hillary. He will likely help carry VA for Hillary. He has no skeletons in his closet, and he is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He has both executive and legislative experience, and is capable of stepping into the Presidency if necessary.
Daddie O, where have you been? Haven't seen you on the board for a while. Re. Tim Kaine, I hope he can bring a degree of quiet stability to her and her campaign, seems like the man that could do it, a bit like Trump's pick of Pence for his VP. Hopefully the VP's can slow down the mouth of the main candidates. Over the years, I've noticed more than once the VP pick seemed like a better POTUS candidate than the actual candidate. I've been busy finishing my pre-requisite courses and Test of Essential Academic Skills exam in order to get into a Bachelor of Science Nursing program. It is highly competitive, there are many hundreds of applicants and only 80 spots. Thankfully I've been accepted, and I start next month. I've also been on vacation in NY to see my sister get married. I think you are right about Pence and Kaine as far as stability. While many Democrats were wanting a more progressive choice like Warren or Booker, Kaine is a mellow choice and less open to attacks about experience. I don't know what Republicans were hoping for as far as VP choice, but Pence was definitely a establishment pick, meant to calm conservative voters who don't see Trump as a conservative (I don't think Trump is either). While Warren and Christie would've been much more entertaining on the campaign trail, both candidates made "safe" choices. |
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both candidates made "safe" choices.Agreed, and good luck on your new endeavor. Four years ago now, I was still in the hospital recovering from a major heart attack that I wasn't supposed to survive(guess I showed them ). The best nurses of all that attended me were two males on different floors. The young females often had little patience with me because I was so weak at first I couldn't even feed myself. And, when I was finally strong enough and able to make it into the bathroom, the guys understood me needing help and the issue of male dignity. I recall one female dr. giving me the business because I was unable to clean myself very good at first. One of the male nurses jumped in and told her to back off, when I tried I fell off the commode and he happened to be there with me. Those guys were a godsend in my book, at times I really felt bad for them but never a word about it from either of them. I let them know how much I appreciated their help, I got a big hug my last day there. So....do well, it reaps many rewards. 
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Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. makes no sense to me. Not for abortion on demand, but believes in an individual woman's right to choose? That IS the definition of abortion on demand. |
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2016, 04:28:33 PM » |
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T He is a devout Catholic
Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. makes no sense to me. Not for abortion on demand, but believes in an individual woman's right to choose? That IS the definition of abortion on demand. It's a fine line, pretty much invisible but, apparently he'll say what it takes to get elected. Yep, a real man of morals. |
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Tim Kaine is a former City Councilman, Mayor of Richmond, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, and Senator. He was also head of the DNC from 2009-2011. He has never lost an election. He is a devout Catholic that did missionary work in Honduras, and speaks fluent Spanish.
He isn't a dynamic speaker, but he is a good VP choice for Hillary. He will likely help carry VA for Hillary. He has no skeletons in his closet, and he is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He has both executive and legislative experience, and is capable of stepping into the Presidency if necessary.
He was the worst Governor that VA has had in my lifetime. He nearly bankrupted the state. He made VA a laughing stock by closing down rest areas on the interstates. He got a law passed that fined VA residents more for speeding than no VA residents, this law was challenged in court and overturned. The state had to pay back all of the extra fines that it had collected. |
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Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. makes no sense to me. Not for abortion on demand, but believes in an individual woman's right to choose? That IS the definition of abortion on demand. Let me try to explain it to you better. He doesn't think that what he personally believes should be forced on others. Sort of like freedom of religion. I may or may not be of the same religion as you, but I believe you should be able to practice the religion you choose. I don't think it is the government's place to dictate what religion you should practice. Though Kaine thinks abortion isn't for his family, he respects the rights of other people to make that decision for themselves, and that it isn't the government's place to dictate whether a woman can choose to have an abortion or not. I guess it's possible for someone to be a Catholic without them believing that everyone must be a Catholic. |
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Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. makes no sense to me. Not for abortion on demand, but believes in an individual woman's right to choose? That IS the definition of abortion on demand. I guess it's possible for someone to be a Catholic without them believing that everyone must be a Catholic. That is NOT what I am saying. I am NOT saying force everyone to be a Catholic. I am NOT a Catholic, and do not believe in abortion on demand. Nor am I am member of any Evangelical church. My question has been, how can someone be a CATHOLIC, and NOT believe in the Catholic beliefs? Hypocrite. Don't believe in their beliefs, quit, and join a church that believes the way you believe. |
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My question has been, how can someone be a CATHOLIC, and NOT believe in the Catholic beliefs? Hypocrite.
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Quite a contridiction here. How can one be "a devout Catholic" and be 100% Pro Abortion on Demand? One cannot be "devout", and campaign AGAINST one of the bedrock tenants of the Catholic Faith. Catholic, maybe, but NOT "devout". I wouldn't categorize him 100% pro-abortion on demand. He has said he is personally against abortion, but he believes in the individual woman's right to choose. makes no sense to me. Not for abortion on demand, but believes in an individual woman's right to choose? That IS the definition of abortion on demand. Let me try to explain it to you better. He doesn't think that what he personally believes should be forced on others. Sort of like freedom of religion. I may or may not be of the same religion as you, but I believe you should be able to practice the religion you choose. I don't think it is the government's place to dictate what religion you should practice. Though Kaine thinks abortion isn't for his family, he respects the rights of other people to make that decision for themselves, and that it isn't the government's place to dictate whether a woman can choose to have an abortion or not. I guess it's possible for someone to be a Catholic without them believing that everyone must be a Catholic. Somehow I think your statement is simply your thoughts not Kaine's position. Or maybe you and Kaine are buddies and discussed this over drinks this weekend. I wonder if there have ever been any democratic aborted fetus's? Since I recently experienced the wonder of becoming the grandad of twin boys who came early and weighed only 2 pounds and would fit in the palm of my hand, the idea of anyone in the medical field using their talent to forceabily remove and destroy them is repugnant on all levels to me. What we have now is state sanctioned murder. |
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Being a recovering Catholic myself I'm at least a little versed in their rules and laws and basically, if you have an abortion, provide an abortion, or are an accomplice to abortion (Which voting "pro choice" qualifies as) you're automatically ex-communicated, cursed to hell, etc, and obviously, no longer a Catholic.
(Which is somewhat ironic seeing as I've been actively trying to be ex-communicated from the church for over 20 years and haven't been able to get that accomplished, but that's another story.)
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Being a recovering Catholic myself I'm at least a little versed in their rules and laws and basically, if you have an abortion, provide an abortion, or are an accomplice to abortion (Which voting "pro choice" qualifies as) you're automatically ex-communicated, cursed to hell, etc, and obviously, no longer a Catholic.
(Which is somewhat ironic seeing as I've been actively trying to be ex-communicated from the church for over 20 years and haven't been able to get that accomplished, but that's another story.)
Oh, heck, thats easy. They threw me out 40+ years ago. I just refused to pay their extortion money for a divorce/annulment. The monsignor decided he needed a new Cadillac and thought I'd pay for it. It was a good move. It go tme to study religions. Not that Im any expert, but, I now know enough I think. |
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