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Well I got the Valk apart today.....Thanks Don. You were completely correct.

Started by 2tonevalk, Sun 27, Sep 2009, 17:39:24

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2tonevalk

The splines on the driveshaft and pinion cup were dry as a bone.  The rust just ate up the splines.  I found quite a lot of powdered rust.  So I learned a valuable lesson. 
Thanks Don for the help.  I am replacing everything from the engine shaft back.  I will keep in mind what you said about removing the pumpkin and greasing the splines when I do tire changes.
Thanks again for everyone's help.  Will see you on the road again very soon.

Ride safe
Robert

thumper

If you buy tires is it the responsibity of the company doing the job to do this?  Is that understood or do I need to insist on it?
An oak tree is nothing but an acorn that stood it's ground!

Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005

Quote from: thumper on Sun 27, Sep 2009, 19:19:02
If you buy tires is it the responsibity of the company doing the job to do this?  Is that understood or do I need to insist on it?

I'd bet the river bottom farm unless you're standing there watching them this does not get done. Buy a jack and do-it-yourself that way you know it's getting done.


I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.

2tonevalk

Quote from: Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005 on Sun 27, Sep 2009, 19:30:33
Quote from: thumper on Sun 27, Sep 2009, 19:19:02
If you buy tires is it the responsibity of the company doing the job to do this?  Is that understood or do I need to insist on it?

I'd bet the river bottom farm unless you're standing there watching them this does not get done. Buy a jack and do-it-yourself that way you know it's getting done.
Yep Joe,
That is exactly why I did that same thing.  Like You,Don and JP said, the rearend is supposed to "auto" oil this thru the 2 holes in the bottom of the spline cup.  However in reality, as mine was, this feature does not work on most bikes.   Mine was bone dry. 
I wish I had known about this earlier.  However I have 70,000 miles so I cannot complain either.  But rest assured, I WILL be doing this as part of my tire change from now own.
So hopefully I will have it back to gether and going in a couple days.  Just in time for the Fall Color Ride.

And Thumper, if you are gettin it done by the shop, I am sure they will tell you that this item is self oiling and this is not required.

Ride Safe
Robert


Highbinder

Glad to be of help Robert....I've seen to many dealer serviced bikes that don't get lubed at tire changes....now a days these young mechanic's don't service many valks...I've had them leave the thrust washer out...had this happen out in Washington state when I had to purchase a tire on the road and they would not allow me in the back :-\ I'm a believer in that if you're going to ride a bike that is not in production any longer, you had better learn to maintain it yourself...buy the service manuel and just do what it says :cooldude:

Detn8er

The first time I had new tires put on I took my wheels off and took them to the local dealer. I asked the service manager what type grease they used when they did it them selves. His reply to me was "We don't lube them, I've never known anybody to have a problem with rear splines." That was enough to convince me to NEVER allow anyone but me to change out my wheels. I know each time everything is done right and all items are lubed and I think very importantly TORQUED to the proper specs.

hubcapsc

Quote from: 2tonevalk on Sun 27, Sep 2009, 20:18:28
Like You,Don and JP said, the rearend is supposed to "auto" oil this thru the 2 holes in the bottom of the spline cup.  However in reality, as mine was, this feature does not work on most bikes.   Mine was bone dry. 

I guess the passageways had clogged up. I recently took the pinion cup out of the final drive
that was on my bike when I got it and cleaned it up to see if it seemed good (it does seem good)
and I blew the obstructions out of the passageways... wasn't thinking about it at the time, but
I can't think of a good way to routinely clean them out with the pinion cup installed...



-Mike

MP

Clean the holes out at service time.  Only use an assembly amount of reg grease on the splines.  If you use a lot of grease, you WILL plug up the holes.
MP

"Ridin' with Cycho"

2tonevalk

Just got everything ordered.  I ordered new yoke, drive shaft, boot (noticed a hole), and the pinion cup.  I am right to assume I can use the same springs, washers, and oil seal from the original drive shaft?

Thanks again.
Robert

Detn8er

I don't think I would use the same dust seal Robert. I think the spring washer and locks are OK.

If I remember correctly the dust seal is only a couple of bucks.....The reason I wouldn't use the same one is for looseness(is that a word?) I  took my rear drive off once to find the seal was loose and had worked it's way up the shaft....not pretty.   :'(

2tonevalk

Quote from: Detn8er on Mon 28, Sep 2009, 16:52:00
I don't think I would use the same dust seal Robert. I think the spring washer and locks are OK.

If I remember correctly the dust seal is only a couple of bucks.....The reason I wouldn't use the same one is for looseness(is that a word?) I  took my rear drive off once to find the seal was loose and had worked it's way up the shaft....not pretty.   :'(
Thanks Det,
I called HDL this morning and added it to my order along with a couple other things...just to have available.

Anyway, hope I get them in and put on so I can ride it around her to make sure its fixed before heading to Robbinsville.  I dont really wanna do the "Stanley Steamer" thing.  LOL

Ride safe
Robert

Stanley Steamer

Quote from: 2tonevalk on Tue 29, Sep 2009, 17:58:02
Quote from: Detn8er on Mon 28, Sep 2009, 16:52:00
I don't think I would use the same dust seal Robert. I think the spring washer and locks are OK.

If I remember correctly the dust seal is only a couple of bucks.....The reason I wouldn't use the same one is for looseness(is that a word?) I  took my rear drive off once to find the seal was loose and had worked it's way up the shaft....not pretty.   :'(
Thanks Det,
I called HDL this morning and added it to my order along with a couple other things...just to have available.

Anyway, hope I get them in and put on so I can ride it around her to make sure its fixed before heading to Robbinsville.  I dont really wanna do the "Stanley Steamer" thing.  LOL

Ride safe
Robert

I'll swing by and pick you up in the Kia machine.....OR, you can ride bitch on the big green machine!!.......naw, I don't have the HD shocks for that ya old fart!!..... :D
Stanley "Steamer"

"Ride Hard or Stay Home"