A bump (health wise) in the road!

[RDKLL]

So, I was in the hospital Friday and Saturday for a planned procedure...for a personality and Liberal tendencies so I could, in good faith vote for Hillary...that didnt take, so I will still be Trumping in Nov.
I was in for 2 cardiac ablations, one for atrial fibrillation and one for flutter. The best was to think of a-fib is a cammed motor with a lope...but its not cool in your heart...the chambers are sort of beating against each other, which leads to inefficient movement of blood, sort of like a cavitation in a pump
The flutter is best described as extra beats...it was documented that at times my heart would beat at more than 200 times per minute.
The way these ablations were completed was under general anesthesia thru the arteries or veins in my leg up to the heart and there they looked for electrical anomalies and zapped them. Because both of thos issues are caused by electrical impulse generating from either the wrong place anytime or the right place at the wrong time. I will be able to go back to work on Wed...so there

[Chrisj CMA]

So, I was in the hospital Friday and Saturday for a planned procedure...for a personality and Liberal tendencies so I could, in good faith vote for Hillary...that didnt take, so I will still be Trumping in Nov.
I was in for 2 cardiac ablations, one for atrial fibrillation and one for flutter. The best was to think of a-fib is a cammed motor with a lope...but its not cool in your heart...the chambers are sort of beating against each other, which leads to inefficient movement of blood, sort of like a cavitation in a pump
The flutter is best described as extra beats...it was documented that at times my heart would beat at more than 200 times per minute.
The way these ablations were completed was under general anesthesia thru the arteries or veins in my leg up to the heart and there they looked for electrical anomalies and zapped them. Because both of thos issues are caused by electrical impulse generating from either the wrong place anytime or the right place at the wrong time. I will be able to go back to work on Wed...so there

My father had the same thing done, seemed to work well for awhile, but he has additional problems you don't have due to his age.  Hope you do as the Dr expects and are back riding soon Bro!

[Oss]

 best wishes for a full recovery   

[baldo]

Best thoughts for a full, lasting recovery.

Ever consider a second opinion for that political switch? You'll feel better, promise...

[Bigwolf]

Sorry to hear about your "bump (health wise) in the road".  Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

It has been 3 1/2 years since they kicked my heart back into rhythm.  I had been in a-fib for several months when they did a cardioversion and started me on meds to keep it in rhythm.  After 2 years on the meds with no a-fib, I weaned myself off the meds against doctors advice.  Been doing OK.  In fact, my doctors are completely amazed.  However, When they first told me I was in a-fib, I quit doing a few things that aggravate it.  I stopped almost all consumption of caffeine. I had known since a cardiac rehab many years ago that caffeine caused several extra heart beats for me.  I love Ice tea but almost never drink it now.  If I do, absolutely no more than 6 oz. and that never more than once a month.  I also started wearing that dang breathing machine every time I lie down to sleep.  Sleep apnea is a big trigger for a-fib.  I had been taking a supplement for another condition and that supplement tends to cause irregular heart beats.  I don't know if any of this might be helpful to you but that is my story just in case it might help.

Jerry

[gordonv]

Had a congenital heart defect, and suffered that butterflying flutter affect. Was a very strange feeling.

Heart valve replaced to mechanical, now happens only about once every quarter, but it is now a VERY strange feeling.

Good luck in the treatment and recovery.

My condition supposedly had no ill effects. What can be the outcome of yours? 200 PPM isn't nice, and I'm sure it isn't healthy either.

[mike72903]

Sorry to hear you were in hospital but sounds like things are okay.  Only a bump Medical advances have been astounding the last few decades. My dad died in 1969 of heart failure and I remember how frantic the a-fib was making his heart beat.  After quad bypass surgery 5 years ago my heart kept going into a-fib in the hospital. Lots  of people would suddenly appear to hook me up to stuff to force it back to normal.  Maybe the liberalization implants just need time to kick in.

[solo1]

Glad to hear that the procedure was successful .

Many years ago I developed that 'butterfly effect' while hunting at 6,000 feet in the Black Hills. Found out is was too much caffeine, whew!

[RDKLL]

Thanks for all the kind words. I had my last ablation on 2009 and my heart guy said that there had been pretty major imprvements in mapping the areas where the elctrical "shorts" are and they zap them. He stated that all the other zaps from the previous ablations had reconnected, electrically, so I was in either flutter or afib most of the time...he also said the flutter is not as bad because the heart is at least pumping in the right direction, when in afib, the blood stgnates near the valves and then when you go back in rythym, it can cause a clot they may have formmed in the still blood to get released and that can be bad.
I will be released and then I can get back on knee rehad for a partially torn MCL and a possible torn meniscucs...getting old sucks

[98valk]

So, I was in the hospital Friday and Saturday for a planned procedure...for a personality and Liberal tendencies so I could, in good faith vote for Hillary...that didnt take, so I will still be Trumping in Nov.
I was in for 2 cardiac ablations, one for atrial fibrillation and one for flutter. The best was to think of a-fib is a cammed motor with a lope...but its not cool in your heart...the chambers are sort of beating against each other, which leads to inefficient movement of blood, sort of like a cavitation in a pump
The flutter is best described as extra beats...it was documented that at times my heart would beat at more than 200 times per minute.
The way these ablations were completed was under general anesthesia thru the arteries or veins in my leg up to the heart and there they looked for electrical anomalies and zapped them. Because both of thos issues are caused by electrical impulse generating from either the wrong place anytime or the right place at the wrong time. I will be able to go back to work on Wed...so there

Glad u are ok.
U need more magnesium in your body.  Bone broth soup is the best, then magnesium oil put on the skin, then magnesium citrate supplements. Some suggest Epson salt bath/soak also.
need to do all.
Avoid all high fructose corn syrup, which depletes the body of magnesium.  HFCS is in all baked goods including just about all bread/rolls.
 Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge

•ARRHYTHMIA

•Magnesium in supraventricular and ventricular arrhythmias
•Effect of intravenous magnesium sulfate on cardiac arrhythmias in critically ill patients with low serum ionized magnesium
•Ionic mechanisms of ischemia-related ventricular arrhythmias
•The antiarrhythmic effects of taurine alone and in combination with magnesium sulfate on ischemia/reperfusion arrhythmia
• [Magnesium and calcium changes in serum and atrial muscle caused by open heart surgery and the effect of preoperative oral magnesium administration].
•Antiarrhythmic effects of increasing the daily intake of magnesium and potassium in patients with frequent ventricular arrhythmias. Magnesium in Cardiac Arrhythmias (MAGICA) Investigators.
• Hypomagnesemia in heart failure with ventricular arrhythmias. Beneficial effects of magnesium supplementation.

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â—¦On the Relationship Between Water Hardness and Death Rate in Cardiovascular Diseases. (This was written in 1965 and the authors do not yet know what factor in hard water protects against heart disease.) *WATER*
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â—¦Magnesium flux during and after open heart operations in children.
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âhttp://mgwater.com/

 Hosea 4: 6  My people perish from a lack of knowledge.

[Bigwolf]

98Valk,
That was a lot of information and not easy to read!  Thank you for posting it.  I was unaware of these studies on cardiovascular health and I really need to be informed when dealing with doctors and trying to survive their mistakes.

[RDKLL]

Thanks for the info...I am going to see what I can glean

[98valk]

The site is based on the work by Dr. Mildred Seelig. see passed away a few yrs ago in her late nineties. She was revered for her work in Europe but was ignored here in the states.

http://whitakerwellness.com/health-concerns/treatments-for-heart-disease/magnesium-supplements/
If I had to choose just one supplement to use on a regular basis, it would likely be magnesium. This mineral is one of the most potent, versatile, and safe therapies available. Yet it is woefully underused in American medicine. The following stories and studies illustrate the healing power of miraculous magnesium.

Smoothes Out Arrhythmias

 Chuck, an 18-year-old patient of mine, was an avid biker who routinely rode his mountain bike in the hills of Southern California. This is an arduous sport that requires huge energy expenditures and results in copious sweating, especially when temperatures start to climb.
 During his rides, Chuck would occasionally notice his heart beating irregularly and sometimes skipping a beat altogether. One day, his heartbeat became so out of whack that he could no longer pedal, and his friends had to drag him back into town. When he showed up at my office the next day, I took his pulse and found that his heart was skipping every second or third beat.

An EKG confirmed my suspicion—Chuck was experiencing ventricular arrhythmia.


http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/magnesium-the-ultimate-heart-medicine
If you’re ever rushed to the hospital with a heart attack, intravenous magnesium could save your life. In a 1995 study, researchers found that the in-hospital death rate of those receiving IV magnesium was one-fourth that of those who received standard treatment alone. In 2003, a follow-up study of these same patients revealed an enduring effect of magnesium treatment. Nearly twice as many patients in the standard treatment group had died compared to those who received magnesium, and there were considerably more cases of heart failure and impaired heart function in the placebo group. In addition to increasing survival after heart attack, IV magnesium smoothes out arrhythmias and improves outcomes in patients undergoing angioplasty with stent placement.

Magnesium is absolutely essential for the proper functioning of the heart. Magnesium’s role in preventing heart disease and strokes is generally well accepted, yet cardiologists have not gotten up to speed with its use. Magnesium was first shown to be of value in the treatment of cardiac arrhythmias in 1935. Since then there have been numerous double-blind studies showing that magnesium is beneficial for many types of arrhythmias including atrial fibrillation, ventricular premature contractions, ventricular tachycardia, and severe ventricular arrhythmias. Magnesium supplementation is also helpful in angina due to either a spasm of the coronary artery or atherosclerosis.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/28/world/a-study-finds-magnesium-cut-deaths-by-heart-attack.html
Injections of magnesium at the time of a heart attack reduced deaths by a fourth in a study of more than 2,300 patients, British researchers reported in a medical journal yesterday.

The magnesium injections also reduced by 25 percent the incidence of heart failure among patients during their stay in a coronary care unit after a heart attack, the researchers reported in The Lancet, a leading journal published in London.

do not use grains as a food source for magnesium, they are very bad.
www.wheatbelly.com

[G-Man]

I wish you hadn't titled your post as you had.  Sent a chill and felt like a knot in my stomach opening it.

A few years ago, LaserPat titled his post very similarly and a couple weeks later he was gone.   

[RDKLL]

I am sorry about the G-Man, I was trying to inform but too serious

[czuch]

You'll be fine. Do what the Dr. says.
The liberal implant,,,,,,,,,,,there I see emphatic rejection.